[Ietf-dkim] Re: Charter #4?

2025-01-24 Thread John R. Levine
On Thu, 23 Jan 2025, Richard Clayton wrote: which I found at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-dkim/ for the record, I think this is suitable for moving forward Same here. It's a lot of work but it solves real longstanding problems. Regards, John Levine, jo...@taugh.com,

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Charter #4?

2025-01-24 Thread Dave Crocker
Murray, et al, I started this on Jan14 but, well, got distracted... The draft is moving in a good direction, but I think it still has some points worthy of serious concern. Some basic points: 1. A charter has 3 audiences: The IESG for approval; The working group participants for team f

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Charter #4?

2025-01-24 Thread Allen Robinson
I think the charter sufficiently describes problems that exist in today's ecosystem, and is enough to get us started on work toward resolving them. On the topic of adding new vs extending DKIM, I think the relevant part of the charter is: > The working group will strongly prefer output that, when

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Charter #4?

2025-01-24 Thread Michael Thomas
On 1/24/25 2:05 PM, Allen Robinson wrote: For what it's worth, I personally think that the add new vs extend existing discussion is a very valuable one for the WG to have (and document) at some point. I'm not currently of the opinion that we can safely add all of the proposed functionality to

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Charter #4?

2025-01-24 Thread Emil Gustafsson
+1 to not constraining the workgroup too much at this point. I think there are many details that need to be discussed before we know what is the best option. I'm not opposed to making some o the tweaks Dave suggested to more accurately describe the problem and the goal as long as we focus on what w

[Ietf-dkim] Re: Charter #4?

2025-01-24 Thread Trent Adams
I believe that the most recent charter as drafted by Murray is reasonable to get started. Some (minor) tweaks are fine, but I honestly think we’re working at the margins and the time / effort to continue refining it has reached the point of diminishing returns as I don’t believe they’re going