Re: [Ietf-dkim] DKIM-FBL

2023-09-28 Thread Brotman, Alex
amp; Messaging Policy Comcast > -Original Message- > From: Dave Crocker > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2023 1:05 PM > To: Brotman, Alex > Cc: ietf-dkim@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ietf-dkim] DKIM-FBL > > On 9/27/2023 7:41 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > > We don

Re: [Ietf-dkim] DKIM-FBL

2023-09-28 Thread Dave Crocker
On 9/27/2023 7:41 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: We don't really have a venue that talks about feedback loops that I can find, I strongly suggest pursuing this first in a group devoted to anti-abuse email, with a range of software developers and platform providers. This will ensure both subj

Re: [Ietf-dkim] DKIM-FBL

2023-09-28 Thread Jesse Thompson
On Wed, Sep 27, 2023, at 9:06 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote: > On 9/27/23 13:36, Brotman, Alex wrote: > > I've attached a draft that uses attributes of a passing DKIM > > signature to create a DNS label that can be used to discover an FBL > > address. This feedback address can be used by message r

Re: [Ietf-dkim] DKIM-FBL

2023-09-28 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On 9/27/23 16:47, Brotman, Alex wrote: Some senders use a different selector when sending from different ESPs while they use the same d= in the DKIM signature. Don't same d= mean they don't want to differentiate? Using a different selector is an a artifact of keys distribution; it doesn't re

Re: [Ietf-dkim] DKIM-FBL

2023-09-27 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
I'm betting the chairs would want this not to consume any of the so-far-meager energy this WG is showing. I can imagine that ietf-smtp would be a reasonable place to at least announce that you're working on this. I don't know that that's a good home for ongoing discussion either though. We don't

Re: [Ietf-dkim] DKIM-FBL

2023-09-27 Thread Brotman, Alex
ssage- > From: Ietf-dkim On Behalf Of Alessandro Vesely > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2023 10:07 AM > To: ietf-dkim@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ietf-dkim] DKIM-FBL > > On 9/27/23 13:36, Brotman, Alex wrote: > > I've attached a draft that uses attributes of a passing

Re: [Ietf-dkim] DKIM-FBL

2023-09-27 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On 9/27/23 13:36, Brotman, Alex wrote: I've attached a draft that uses attributes of a passing DKIM signature to create a DNS label that can be used to discover an FBL address. This feedback address can be used by message receivers to provide a copy of FN (and potentially FP) (Spam/Not-Spam) r

[Ietf-dkim] DKIM-FBL

2023-09-27 Thread Brotman, Alex
Hey folks, I'm not entirely sure this is the right place for this. Someone else suggested the DMARC list, and I thought perhaps the "smtp" list might make more sense. If I'm shuffled off to one of those lists, I'll let this thread know. I've attached a draft that uses attributes of a passing