Re: site local addresses

2003-03-28 Thread Ole Troan
>> Except of those 14 some seven(?) are RFC3041 addresses, which break a >> number of applications... so there are some clouds in the sky. > > 3041 may be next on the hit-list. Pretty soon it truly will be > nothing but bigger addresses. lets shoot down those 128 bit addresses too, 64 must be eno

Re: last call comments for draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-06

2013-04-26 Thread Ole Troan
> Further to that, ifindexes of tunnels and PPP sessions can change dynamically > as the bearer connection goes up and down, even if the interface has the same > name and authenticated identity. That raises the interesting question of > whether even the interface name is stable, as on many syst

Re: Review of draft-gundavelli-v6ops-l2-unicast

2010-10-05 Thread Ole Troan
Bernard, thanks for a very thorough review. [I didn't see this before the IESG raised a DISCUSS, it must be useful for the authors / wg to see these reviews too?] [...] > In the abstract, the draft correctly states that it is not mandatory that > the link layer destination of an IP multicast p

Re: Last Call: (Request to move Connection of IPv6 Domains via IPv4 Clouds (6to4) to Historic status) to Informational RFC

2011-06-07 Thread Ole Troan
Keith, I'm loathe to go through this discussion again. let me just respond to some of the points you make, and then agree that we disagree. > I strongly object to the proposed reclassification of these documents as > Historic. > > 6to4 still has many valid use cases, and there is not a suita

Re: one data point regarding native IPv6 support

2011-06-14 Thread Ole Troan
Michel, making 6to4 historic does not affect 6rd. I think the draft says that much too. I don't think we are saying that native necessarily is better than tunnels. we are saying unmanaged tunnels crossing the Internet is bad. 6rd is managed and contained within a single SP's network. cheers, Ole

Re: Gen-ART LC Review of draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic-04

2011-06-22 Thread Ole Troan
Ben, splendid comments! I've tried to incorporate all of them, and will either issue a new revision or make the changes during AUTH48 depending on other LC feedback. cheers, Ole > I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on Gen-ART, > please see the FAQ at >

Re: one data point regarding native IPv6 support

2011-06-27 Thread Ole Troan
Noel, >> it seems that a lot of the issues could be mitigated by simple >> connectivity test. > > Well, IPv6 Neighbour Discovery is just the thing. I gather it's turned off > on 6to4 links, which in retrospect was probably a mistake. I would > recommend that it be turned on, but apparently the WG

Re: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic

2011-07-08 Thread Ole Troan
Roger, > Guess I should clearify something, the thing I am considering are to > drop all 2002::/16 addresses hard, of course preferable return a > correct error messages to. > > wonder how many find 6to4 usable when ISPs start doing that? Nuclear > winter or not may follow. took me a while to wa

Re: 6to4 to Experimental? (was: Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic)

2011-07-08 Thread Ole Troan
Keith, > The alternative that I proposed to IESG and to the chairs (and never received > any feedback about) was to reclassify 6to4 as Experimental. Experimental > seems completely appropriate for a protocol that is useful, but only in > corner cases. And I think it's also appropriate and us

Re: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic (yet again)

2011-07-25 Thread Ole Troan
I'm in favor of the proposed action and the clarification of historic, suggested in the new section. (I could be in _strong_ favour to nullify Keith's 'vote', although I hope we're not counting. ;-)), . cheers, Ole On Jul 25, 2011, at 10:30 , Ronald Bonica wrote: > Folks, > > After some discu

Re: IPv6 traffic distribution

2011-07-29 Thread Ole Troan
Michel, >> Joel Jaeggli wrote: >> 6rd is global unicast... there's nothing to discriminate >> it from any other native range. > > No. there is nothing in the current classification algorithm to > discriminate from any other native range. But it's not native, as it > has, among other things, the s

Re: Last Call: (Implications of Oversized IPv6 Header Chains) to Proposed Standard

2013-10-08 Thread Ole Troan
Fred, > Hi, I would like to make a small amendment to what I said in my > previous message as follows: > > 4) Section 5, change the final paragraph to: > > "As a result of the above mentioned requirements, a packet's header > chain length MUST fit within the Path MTU associated with its >

Re: Last Call: (Implications of Oversized IPv6 Header Chains) to Proposed Standard

2013-10-09 Thread Ole Troan
Fred, >> -Original Message- >> From: Ronald Bonica [mailto:rbon...@juniper.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 5:46 PM >> To: Ole Troan; Templin, Fred L >> Cc: i...@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org >> Subject: RE: Last Call: >> (Implications of

Re: Last Call: (Implications of Oversized IPv6 Header Chains) to Proposed Standard

2013-10-09 Thread Ole Troan
Fred, >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Ronald Bonica [mailto:rbon...@juniper.net] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 5:46 PM >>>> To: Ole Troan; Templin, Fred L >>>> Cc: i...@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org >>>> Subje