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r in retrospect that the output isn't
> of much value and probably shouldn't have been chartered in
> the first place.
don't no if I and Ekr is saying the same thing, what I'm wary about
is expectations created, an AD accepting a BoF creates expectations,
creating
blem that only occurs .58% of the time.
so if we are talking about "all" documents; what is the percentage
that is (could be) actually published before 60 days and how many
days before day 60 is that (typically)
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> Henrik
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that these wg's need a focus of their own
if you believ that they are doing harm, that is not reason to re-org,
closing down would be called for
if you believe they are doing good, let them continue to do so
in neither case shuffle groups around helps
i can live with status quo
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appropriate to add a note clarifying that
IETF will not progress cr-ldp beyond Proposed Standard.
Adrian
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> trying to understand what you are saying - it seems like you are
> implying that there is no consensus with in ITU
all of them. I guess that it would be possible to weed the draft
after it has been approved, but it deviates from normal practice.
My belief is that we should try to separate these issues from each
other.
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mments are technical, but more procedural...
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o Scott and I asked for an IETF Last Call
on the document. That is an explicit OPEN process
Bert
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Steve,
it appears to me that you decribes a situation that many of us we are
very familiar
with, most of us have sent -00.txt IDs to working groups, and have been
met by a
complete lack of interest.
In retrospect I have to say that most of the time the wg was right - bad
idea.
To bring work
Ran,
would agree to this, and put even stronger
"... Internet RFCs the normal Inernet terminology SHOULD be used, unless
there
are very stong and explicitly stated reasons not to ..."
it should als be that the I* have a guiding role in this
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statistics. So addresses
must be coming from other places than just the IANA storage rooms.
have "an always on" - address is 192.169.0.102
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with this process.
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info you need to route your car?
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t to whatever versions are not the
preferred version of the year.
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exercise the revision control, i.e. other than editorial changes to
a Working Group document need to have a rough consensus by the Working
Group to be introduced."
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ion Status"
sections, including IPR info. I don't think anything forbids to add
such sections, if the authors wish. I'd add a count of the number of
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On 2012-12-13 16:39, Marc Blanchet wrote:
Le 2012-12-13 à 10:22, Loa Andersson a écrit :
Folks,
I agree that understanding the implementation status of a draft
sometimes is essential, but not for all drafts and not always.
Today wg chairs do this type of info
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. I.e., it probably misses some
corner cases, and then what do you do given how prescriptive the rest
of the section is?
But overall, I see this document at best as a no-op. However, I fear
that it can be used to short-circuit our review processes in a way
that doesn't help the
7;t show at this
meeting. Are they tired?
Shy? Unaware? Not perceiving the value?
Adrian
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In this way we have connections between inputs otherwise the IETF
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municators-time
while the positions of both Tx and Rx are semi-fixed (change is
relative to communicators' times not their signal). I think the
communication-times may change when the communicators are at/above
speed of light not the signal/packet. Is my physics correct?
Only time will tell.
B
On 2013-04-05 11:11, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
On 05/04/2013 10:03, Dave Cridland wrote:
On 5 Apr 2013 09:47, "Loa Andersson" wrote:
Bob,
thinking about this and assuming that the FTL Communication are deployed
in a not too far distant future, wouldn't we have started to
. Does IESG have milestones for documents
processing/discussions?
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ke your input.
What is not clear?
What have we got wrong?
How should we resolve the remaining editor notes?
Thanks,
Adrian
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[1] http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-crocker-id-adoption-02.txt
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t new normative
definition of process) and would like your input.
What is not clear?
What have we got wrong?
How should we resolve the remaining editor notes?
Thanks,
Adrian
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unity as
a whole needs to be aware of it.
Most members of the IETF community try their best to
minimize their so called "Narten Number". Many
regard these postings as a useful service, and I for
one, thank him for doing it.
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would Thursday be an acceptable answer?
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I think that there is another issue. Some people are good at doing 5
minute pitches of an idea, others aren't. In case one is not, then I
think a poster session might be a good alternative.
The costs for a poster session are almost 0. Isn't this something w
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To: ietf@ietf.org; Rolf Winter
Subject: Re: Last Call: (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS
.
There are many errors about in this draft as many, for example, Rolf, Huub,
Malcolm, Tom Petch and I, point out in emails, it is a bad draft, it should be
stop.
B.R.
Feng
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; solution!
> B.R.
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OAM tools, or a very
limited set of OAM tools.
Best regards, Huub (JWT, Ad-Hoc, MEAD member).
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ded in
draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations.
Regards,
Malcolm
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and LSP OAM and subsequently defined a second
encapsulation for PW OAM. So that now we have two encapsulations for OAM
in MPLS-TP PWs.
Regards,
Malcolm
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might serve to address both the perceptions and the motivations for
progression.
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am left to
the conclusion that the third paragraph is actually asking for
something we can not do. Can we remove that?
OLD:
All ITU-T Recommendations are subject to revisions. Therefore, the
code point allocated by this document may be used for future versions
of [G.8113.1].
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MB: I do not agree with the removal of this text:
The intention of this statement is to bring to the attention of the IETF
the normal practice in the ITU of developing amendments to
Recommendations to fully meet the functional
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would have an advantage for you too because such
suggestions are more likely to be taken seriously by more people
in the IETF rather than, in the extreme case, going unread
because you have developed a history of bad and/or unjustified
ideas.
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> >> I suggested to Thomas to submit report in end of Friday (read what i
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> > I suggest eliminating the report. As it doesn't measure content
quality, one's contribution can't be measured by the email they produce.
So, it is only a guage of the distraction they produce. The report
itself is a distraction.
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vate use at all, so by default it is
different. I don't see that it could be different.
/Loa
Nits/editorial comments:
1. In section 3.4 I assume that “TC” is traffic class. It will be good
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Nits/editorial comments:
1. In section 3.4 I assume that "TC" is traffic class. It will be
good to expand and have reference.
OK, will fix it when all last call comments received.
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agree can live with it." That is to say, it's not a binary
question, and sometimes things we disagree with just aren't
showstoppers. (I'd like to see people take that position more
often - for some reason a lot of people seem to take disagreement
as a reason to block a decision
On 2013-10-09 13:30, Melinda Shore wrote:
On 10/8/13 9:20 PM, Loa Andersson wrote:
FWIW - my personal way of thinking about consensus vs. rough consensus,
please note that it my personal view not a definition.
Consensus - An agreement by everyone in a group that a proposed
detect this
kind of manipulation we are in bad shape.
What I tried to talk about is the the state of mind the (un-manipulated)
group needs to be in before someone can make a
consensus call; again not a definition, just a way of thinking about
it.
With that I rest my case.
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groups of people is more psychology or sociology than
technology, at
which we are mostly amateurs. We then go beyond our
capabilities and
get it wrong. As here.
I'm not clear on how the discussions of how to manag
draft is ready for publication as an Informational
RFC.
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