>From the discussion just prior to the recent appeal by John Klensin, it
was clear that the guidance regarding example domain names in IETF
documents provided in the ID-Checklist needed to be updated. This point
was emphasized further during the discussion of the Klensin appeal.
Proposed text is
The IESG is considering an experiment for IETF 73 in Minneapolis, and
we would like community comments before we proceed. Face-to-face
meeting time is very precious, especially with about 120 IETF WGs
competing for meeting slots. Several WGs are not able to get as much
meeting time as they need t
Minneapolis IETF Code Sprint
When: November 15, 2008, begining at 9:30 AM
Where: IETF Hotel in Minneapolis
What: A bunch of hackers get together to work on code for IETF tools.
Some people may be porting of existing functionality to the
new framework; some people may be adding e
deploying the new releases on the
IETF servers is done by Glen Barney from the IETF Secretariat.
Please thank these volunteers to the contributions,
Russ
> From: IETF Chair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: IETF Announcement list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Minneapolis IETF Code Sp
It is my pleasure to announce another experiment. People are invited to
join the IETF 73 online Plenary meeting.
Topic: IETF73 Plenary
Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008
Time: 3:00 pm, Central Standard Time (GMT -06:00, Chicago)
Meeting Number: 925 685 107
Meeting Password: IE
During the IETF 73 Plenary, Sam Hartman asked some questions about the
recent updates to the IETF IPR policy. Before responding to Sam's
question, it will be important to provide context about the recently
approved IPR policy. The policy has two components, each governed by
different documents.
> A form is being developed to assist in this task. There is no
> requirement that the form be used, but it will be available
> shortly for anyone that chooses to make use of it.
This form is now available. The Contributor non-exclusive
license form has been updated to grant all of the rights
req
San Francisco IETF Code Sprint
When: March 21, 2009, begining at 9:30 AM
Where: IETF Hotel: Hilton San Francisco
What: A bunch of hackers get together to work on code for IETF tools,
with a focus on converting Perl scripts used in the IETF web
site to the Django framework. Some
The IESG recently reviewed the distribution for email messages that
provide notification of the posting of a new IPR Disclosure. The
review lead to a few changes, and this message is to notify the
community about the changes that were made.
Previously, the posting of an IPR disclosure related to
Lars Eggert and Jari Arkko have put together a search engine for IETF
and IRTF mailing list archives using the Google co-op tool. At this
time, it indexes all currently-active WG and RG mailing list archives(*)
as well as selected related and historic lists. You can access the
search engine at:
Vancouver IETF Code Sprint
When: December 1, 2007, begining at 9:30 AM
Where: IETF Hotel in Vancouver
What: A bunch of hackers get together to work on code for the IETF web
site. Some people may be porting of existing functionality to
the new framework; some people may be addin
, and Cullen know.
Thanks,
Russ
At 09:42 AM Eastern on 28-Aug-2007, IETF Chair wrote:
Vancouver IETF Code Sprint
When: December 1, 2007, begining at 9:30 AM
Where: IETF Hotel in Vancouver
What: A bunch of hackers get together to work on code for the IETF web
site. Some people may be
Dear IETF Community:
Due to a lot of hard work, the RFC Editor is publishing approved
Internet-Drafts more quickly. Overall this is just what we want to
happen. However, I am concerned that the RFC Editor is might be getting
too quick. Anyone can appeal the approval of a document in the two mon
As described in BCP 101 (RFC 4071) and BCP 113 (RFC 4333),
the IESG and the IAB each select one person for a two-year IAOC
term in alternate years. This year, the IESG will select one person
for a term beginning in March 2008.
Following the call for nominations, which ran from 28 October 2007
thro
make ready ...
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k environments will learn from helping others get their configurations
sorted out. We all learn best from hands-on experience, not just talking
about what would happen if you could do it yourself.
Wishing you and your family a safe and warm holiday season,
Russ Housley
IETF Chair
At 04:39
The IESG narrative minutes are posted, whenever available, at
http://www.ietf.org/IESG/iesg-narrative.html. Currently, three scribes
(Spencer Dawkins, Marshall Eubanks, and Marc Blanchet) share the work
load. The IESG would like to recruit another scribe. Other time
commitments are not allowing t
Philadelphia IETF Code Sprint
When: Saturday, 8 March 2008, begining at 9:30 AM
Where: IETF Hotel in Philadelphia
What: A bunch of hackers get together to work on code for the IETF web
site. Some people may be porting of existing functionality to
the new framework; some people
As many people are making travel plans, I wanted to remind everyone
about the Philadelphia IETF Code Sprint that was announced on January
11th. Please support the tools team with your time and talents.
When: Saturday, 8 March 2008, begining at 9:30 AM
Where: IETF Hotel in Philadelphia
What:
As described in RFC 6722, the Tao of the IETF is published as a web page. It
can be found at http://www.ietf.org/tao.html.
In addition, five translations of the Tao are now available at
http://www.ietf.org/tao-translations.html. These languages represent the top
five non-English languages spo
The IESG is considering a revision to the NOTE WELL text. Please review and
comment.
Russ
=== Proposed Revised NOTE WELL Text ===
Note Well
This summary is only meant to point you in the right direction, and
doesn't have all the nuances. The IETF's IPR Policy is set forth in
BCP 79; please
After a very brief consultation with the IESG, I have asked the Secretariat to
block the verywarmc...@gmail.com email address from further posting to this
mail list, and I have asked the Secretariat to delete the message from the mail
list archive so that searches will not bring it up.
On behal
Last Monday, I gave a short presentation on collaboration among standards
development organizations at the Global Standards Symposium in Dubai, UAE.
The Internest Society has posted my slides and a transcript of my words. These
are available here:
http://www.internetsociety.org/doc/remarks-glo
Vancouver IETF Codesprint
When: Saturday, 9 March 2013, starting at 9:30 AM
Where: IETF Hotel
What: A bunch of hackers get together to work on code for the
IETF. All code will become part of the open source IETF tools.
Who: Hopefully you can help
Many of the results of previous codespr
Happy New Year. It is already 2013 in some part of the world.
The ARPANET transitioned to TCP/IP on 1 January 1983. That was 30 years ago,
and it was a huge milestone in the journey toward the Internet as we know it.
You can see the transition plan. Like so many other historic networking
doc
Orlando IETF Codesprint
When: Saturday, 9 March 2013, starting at 9:30 AM
Where: IETF Hotel
What: A bunch of hackers get together to work on code for the
IETF. All code will become part of the open source IETF tools.
Who: Hopefully you can help
Many of the results of previous codesprint
more information see
<http://www.ietf.org/meeting/86/bits-n-bites.html> and contact Drew Dvorshak at
dvors...@isoc.org.
Russ Housley
IETF Chair
Bob Hinden
IAOC Chair
issue
tracker at:
http://tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rfc/trac/newticket
Best regards,
Russ Housley
IETF Chair
Henrik Levkowetz
IETF Tools Program Manager
Please see the attached report on the current status of remote participation in
the IETF meeting. Please notice at the end a call for potential experiments to
explore ways that we can improve remote participation.
Russ Housley
IETF Chair
Bob Hinden
IAOC Chair
= = = = = = = = =
Status of
A reminder that the deadline for the Internet Hall of Fame nominations is 18
February 2013. Individuals who have played a significant role in the
conceptualization, building, and development of the Internet in any region or
country are considered for induction. Please take this opportunity to
Jari has created a blog as an experiment to see if would be possible to
provide periodic status reports and other thoughts from the chair. Here's
the link:
http://www.ietf.org/blog/2013/02/chairs-blog/
Dear IETF Community,
The 2012-2013 IETF nomination process has not yet filled the Transport
Area Director position despite several attempts to broaden the pool of
nominees. The whole community conveys our most sincere gratitude to the
existing nominees for this position. However, it seems that n
, IETF Chair wrote:
> This announces the new xml2rfc implementation for beta testing. There are
> two components: a command line interface and graphical user interfaces.
>
> XML2RFC Version 2
> -
>
> The rewrite of xml2rfc in python, tagged with version number
The good folks at ISOC shot a number of videos during IETF-86 with experts on
various topics. These videos are now available, take a look at the blog post
John and I wrote:
http://www.ietf.org/blog/2013/04/bits-n-bytes-on-video/
The videos can also be accessed directly at:
http://www.youtube.c
The IESG narrative minutes are posted, whenever available, at
http://www.ietf.org/iesg/minutes.html. Currently, Sue Hares and John Leslie are
carrying the load of taking these notes. Previously, Richard Barnes also served
in this role, but he has now other duties. We are very happy and grateful
for new participants to get
introduced to the IETF by an experienced participant with matching interest.
Regards,
Jari Arkko
IETF Chair
you in Anaheim in a few weeks,
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IETF Chair
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Safe travels to Anaheim,
Russ
On 2/7/2010 10:53 AM, IETF Chair wrote:
> Dear Colleagues:
>
> I am writing to make sure that you are aware of two events that are
going
> to take place in close proximity to IETF 77 in Anaheim, California, US
To make the plenary session slightly more efficient the IAOC and the
IESG would appreciate if you would compose a mail with the topic you
want to bring up during the open mic portion of the agenda. This would
allow a more thoughtful response. This is not an attemt in any way to
stifle questions t
This posting is to acknowledge the people that supported IETF 77 by
purchasing a Green Dot. Thanks for your help. I hope you had fun.
Russ Housley
IETF Chair
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Green Dot Contribution Fund
Russ Housley
Ole Jacobsen
Jamal Hadi Salim
Jeffrey
During IETF 77, the IESG decided that the best way to advertise events
that take place near the IETF meetings is to put up a wiki page that
lets the sponsors make their own announcements.
The wiki pages for such announcements is now available at
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/misc/venue/
On behalf of
Maastricht IETF Codesprint
When: 24 July 2010 beginning at 9:30 AM
Where: IETF Hotel
What: A bunch of hackers get together to work on code for the IETF.
Some people may be preparing for the transition to a new
database schema; some people may be preparing for the
upcoming ext
use the WPA SSIDs if at all possible to reduce
the load on the portal machines. If the portals do experience problems,
the NOC team will implement a backup plan. The backup plan will only be
used as a last resort as the backup plan will not be an option at IETF
79 in Beijing.
Safe Travel and
The IESG narrative minutes are posted, whenever available, at
http://www.ietf.org/IESG/iesg-narrative.html. Currently, John Leslie is
carrying the vast bulk of the load, and Marc Blanchet is providing
backup. The IESG would like to recruit at least one more scribe. Other
time commitments are not
We are collecting names of individuals from the IETF community who have
contributed to DNSSEC. The goal is to display these names at IETF 78
during a celebration of DNSSEC deployment. A Wiki page to facilitate the
collection of the relevant names has been established at:
http://trac.tools.ietf.org
The rfcdiff tool has become critical to the IETF. Many people use it
while reviewing drafts, and the RFC Editor uses it in the Auth48
process. Recognizing our dependency on this tool, it has been installed
on the www.ietf.org web site, and it will be maintained by the
Secretariat with assistance
:55 PM, IETF Chair wrote:
> I am writing to let you know about a change in the IETF meeting network.
> At IETF 79 in Beijing, the IETF network will be connected to the open
> Internet with absolutely no filtering. However, we have agreed with our
> hosts that only IETF meeting participan
For remote participants, WebEx used view the Technical Plenary slides
while listening usual audio streaming. Here is the information needed
to join.
Russ
> IETF Secretariat invites you to attend this online meeting.
>
> Topic: Technical Plenary
> Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010
> Time: 4:30 pm, Eu
For remote participants, WebEx used view the Administrative Plenary
slides while listening usual audio streaming. Here is the information
needed to join.
Russ
> IETF Secretariat invites you to attend this online meeting.
>
> Topic: Administrative Plenary
> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010
> Time:
I am writing to make you aware of the second experiment of nat64 service
on the network at IETF 78. It is being run on the ietf-nat64 SSID. In
short, the ietf-nat64 provides access to:
- ipv6-only network
- v6 packets translated to v4 to reach v4 internet
- v6 packets forwarded to the v6 Inte
Beijing IETF Codesprint
When: 6 November 2010, starting at 9:30 AM
Where: IETF Hotel
What: A bunch of hackers get together to work on code for the IETF.
All code will become part of the open source IETF tools.
Who: Hopefully you can help
Many of the results of previous codesprint ac
We are making a few changes to ensure that critical or essential tools
are available on Secretariat-managed servers. As part of this effort,
IDnits and RFCdiff have been relocated. You can find them at:
http://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits/
http://www.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/
Going forward, i
ward to working with you in the future to make the Internet even
better.
Happy anniversary,
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Cullen:
> Big Issues 1: I don't like mandating one port for secure and not secure
> versions of a protocol
>
> I don't think this reflects IETF consensus given the number of protocols that
> deliberately choses to use two ports. I also don't think that it is a good
> idea in all cases. I beli
You have probably already heard the news, but just to make sure no one is left
out of the loop, I am posting this note.
The last five /8 IPv4 address blocks were assigned today.
Two /8s were recently allocated to APNIC, which triggered the implementation of
the Exhaustion Phase set out in the
Prague IETF Codesprint
When: 26 March 2011, starting at 9:30 AM
Where: IETF Hotel
What: A bunch of hackers get together to work on code for the IETF.
All code will become part of the open source IETF tools.
Who: Hopefully you can help
Many of the results of previous codesprint activi
The IAOC has been developing specifications for the enhancement and improvement
of the Datatracker. To facilitate review and make it easier for people to
track the progress of the specification developments, we are putting pointers
to these documents on a wiki page:
http://trac.tools.ietf.o
As part of recognizing the IETF's 25th anniversary, we would like to
celebrate the tradition of IETF meeting t-shirts and community
contribution.
We are assembling a gallery of photographs of t-shirts from across the
years. The photographs need not be from IETF Meetings. In fact, the
more intere
during this
upcoming outage.
Thanks for your assistance,
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http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/minutes/plenaryw.txt
The Admin Plenary minutes are now available for review. Please let me know if
there are any changes needed,
Many thanks to Mirjam Kuehne for her help generating this minutes.
Russ
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A major update to the Internet-Draft Submission Tool has just been installed.
For those of you that have experienced trouble in the past, we expect this
update to solve your problems. All of the I-Ds that have required manual
processing by the Secretariat over the past few months were used for
Quebec City IETF Codesprint
When: 23 July 2011, starting at 9:30 AM
Where: IETF Hotel
What: A bunch of hackers get together to work on code for the IETF.
All code will become part of the open source IETF tools.
Who: Hopefully you can help
Many of the results of previous codesprint ac
There has been a PCP Demo from during the week. Visitors of the Demo have
entered their cards and contacts in a raffle box to win a Huawei-sponsored
iPAD2. I have agreed to draw the winner during the first afternoon break today
in the terminal room (2000D). Two hours will be given to the win
The IESG is considering a different schedule for the Friday of IETF 82. The
IESG is seeking your input on these potential changes.
The IESG would like to try a schedule experiment on Friday, using this schedule:
9:00 AM - 11:00 AM - Session I
11:00 AM - 11:20 AM - Room Change and Cookie Break
Shane:
>> The IESG is considering a different schedule for the Friday of IETF 82.
>> The IESG is seeking your input on these potential changes.
>>
>> The IESG would like to try a schedule experiment on Friday, using this
>> schedule:
>
> In principle this makes sense, but do people think that t
Taipei IETF Codesprint
When: Saturday, 12 November 2011, starting at 9:30 AM
Where: IETF Hotel
What: A bunch of hackers get together to work on code for the IETF.
All code will become part of the open source IETF tools.
Who: Hopefully you can help
Many of the results of previous codes
The IESG has decided to use the following experimental schedule for the Friday
of IETF 82 and 83:
9:00 AM - 11:00 AM - Session I
11:00 AM - 11:20 AM - Room Change and Cookie Break
11:20 AM - 12:20 PM - Session II
12:20 PM - 12:30 PM - Room Change Break
12:30 PM - 13:30 PM - Session III
This sch
The current thinking about the San Francisco IETF Code Sprint can be
found here: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/IETF74Sprint
Please signup on this wiki page if you plan to attend:
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/IETF74SprintSignUp
Your support with the tools development
Several changes to the NomCom process were discussed during the plenary
session last Wednesday. The minutes have been posted so that anyone that
was not at the plenary session can catch up. The minutes can be found
here:
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09mar/minutes/plenaryw.txt
The discuss
Stockholm IETF Code Sprint
When: July 15, 2009, begining at 9:30 AM
Where: IETF Hotel in Stockholm
What: A bunch of hackers get together to work on code for the IETF web
site. Some people may be porting of existing functionality to
the new framework; some people may be adding e
Please excuse the typo. The code sprint will take place on July 25th
(not July 15th).
Russ
IETF Chair wrote:
> Stockholm IETF Code Sprint
>
> When: July 15, 2009, begining at 9:30 AM
>
> Where: IETF Hotel in Stockholm
>
> What: A bunch of hackers get together to work
A wiki has been set up for the Stockholm code strint:
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/IETF75Sprint
The wiki includes a sign-up page. Please add your name to the table
if you are planning to participate.
Thanks,
Russ
IETF Chair wrote:
> Stockholm IETF Code Sprint
>
the Secretariat are
committed to continuing to improve the web site. So, please let us send
email to the IETF Executive Director, Alexa Morris ,
with suggestions for further improvements. She is looking forward to
receiving your suggestions and constructive criticism.
Rus
Hiroshima IETF Codesprint
When: November 7, 2009, begining at 9:30 AM
Where: IETF Hotel
What: A bunch of hackers get together to work on code for the IETF.
Some people may be porting of existing functionality to the
new framework; some people may be adding exciting new
fun
ill be open for registration
at UTC on 30 October 2009 with the remaining spaces made available
at 1200 UTC on 30 October 2009.
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IETF Chair
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this relationship between ISOC and W3C is aligned
with the mission and goals of the IETF. I sincerely hope that the
support received from ISOC will allow the W3C to quickly adopt an
agile, inclusive, and flexible organizational structure.
Russ Housley
IETF Chair
I have just formed the Smart Power Directorate. Information about the
Directorate can be found here:
http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/smart-power.html
The Smart Power Directorate will provide review and coordination on the
use of Internet protocols to provide smart grid communications. The
The Tools Team will be rolling out some major improvements to
datatracker.ietf.org within the next 1-2 months.
These improvements should make information about drafts and their
status easier to find. The IESG has been testing this interface for
some time already, and has found it a big improvement
charter. The wiki and a
compantion mail list will be used for discussion of the charter.
The mail list will also be used to discuss the design and content
of the wiki.
Enjoy,
Russ Housley
IETF Chair
P.S. Thanks to Dave Crocker for the energy to make this wiki
materialize
Anaheim IETF Codesprint
When: March 20, 2010, beginning at 9:30 AM
Where: IETF Hotel
What: A bunch of hackers get together to work on code for the IETF.
Some people may be preparing for the transition to a new data
base schema; some people may be preparing for the upcoming
ex
Dear Colleagues:
I am writing to make sure that you are aware of two events that are going
to take place in close proximity to IETF 77 in Anaheim, California, USA.
Neither of these events is affiliated with the IETF, but I thought that
you would like to be aware of them.
First, there will be a fu
2010 08:32:14 -0800 (PST)
From: IETF Chair
Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org
To: IETF Announcement list
CC: 77...@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org
Anaheim IETF Codesprint
When: March 20, 2010, beginning at 9:30 AM
Where: IETF Hotel
What: A bunch of hackers get together to work on code for the IETF.
Some
The IETF community may be interested in this announcement from the Acting
RFC Series Editor.
Russ
Original Message
Subject: [rfc-i] New email address for Independent Submission stream
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:56:31 -0800
From: Bob Braden
To: RFC Interest
CC: rfc-...@rfc-edito
the ISOC Board of Trustees;
o The IETF Chair (ex officio);
o The IAB Chair (ex officio);
o The ISOC President/CEO (ex officio).
Selection
The IESG will publish the list of nominated persons prior to making a
decision, allowing time for the community to provide any relevant
comments to the IESG
I am sending this note to make sure that everyone is aware of the recent
article. I understand that some people felt the article was unclear, and I
hope the following note helps.
Russ
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Russ Housley
> Date: November 15, 2011 5:23:15 AM EST
> To: Malcolm Johnso
Two Multicast for IPv6 Transition Demonstrations are taking place this week in
the terminal room (4F VIP room) from 8:00 am to 7:00 pm. On Friday, of course,
the demonstration will end at 1:00 pm when the meeting closes.
Transition from IPv6 to IPv4 must support key multicast applications such
The IETF legal counsel and insurance agent suggest that the IETF ought to have
an antitrust policy. To address this need, a lawyer is needed. As a way
forward, I suggest that IASA pay a lawyer to come up with an initial draft, and
then this draft be brought to the community for review and comm
Ted:
> The IETF legal counsel and insurance agent suggest that the IETF ought to
> have an antitrust policy. To address this need, a lawyer is needed. As a
> way forward, I suggest that IASA pay a lawyer to come up with an initial
> draft, and then this draft be brought to the community for r
The admin plenary minutes from IETF 82 have been posted:
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/minutes/plenaryw.txt
Many thanks to Alexa for taking the notes. The name of one speaker is unknown.
If you know the name, please share so that I can make them complete. Also, if
you notice any errors,
nominations and comments on Ole to i...@ietf.org.
On behalf of the IESG,
Russ Housley
IESG Chair
On Nov 13, 2011, at 1:04 AM, IETF Chair wrote:
> Ole Jacobsen is the IAOC member that was appointed by the IESG, and
> his two-year term is up in March. The IESG is starting the process
> to
Chair
On Dec 1, 2011, at 2:33 PM, IETF Chair wrote:
> The IESG has received a single nomination for the IAOC position. Given this
> situation, we are extending the deadline to nominations to 7 December 2011.
>
> In addition, we are opening the comment period on the single willing
The IESG has received a third willing nominee for the IAOC position. Imran
Ahmed Shah would like to serve the community as an IAOC member. Please send
comments on the three candidates that we have so far to i...@ietf.org. The
three willing nominees are:
-- Ole Jacobsen
-- Tobias Gondrom
The announcement sent on 13 November 2011 says that the IAB will confirm the
IESG's selection. Review of RFC 4071 reveals that there is not a requirement
for confirmation. Sorry for the confusion.
On behalf of the IESG,
Russ Housley
IESG Chair
On Nov 13, 2011, at 1:04 AM, IETF
The IESG has received a fourth willing nominee for the IAOC position. Sam
Hartman was nominated, and he has accepted the nomination.
Nominations are now closed.
The four willing nominees are:
-- Ole Jacobsen
-- Tobias Gondrom
-- Imran Ahmed Shah
-- Sam Hartman
Please send comments on thes
The IESG is responsible for selecting one IETF Administrative
Oversight Committee (IAOC) member for a two-year term starting
in March 2012. The selection was made in accordance with
BCP 101 and BCP 113.
A call for nominations was issued on 2011-11-13. The IESG had
four willing nominees, and thes
Paris IETF Codesprint
When: Saturday, 24 March 2012, starting at 9:30 AM
Where: IETF Hotel
What: A bunch of hackers get together to work on code for the IETF.
All code will become part of the open source IETF tools.
Who: Hopefully you can help
Many of the results of previous codesprint
> You be happy to know that OA in and of itself is both covered by earlier
> IPR notices regarding my Location Based Services and the new patent
> which the Chair has not posted from my January 2012 IPR filings.
The Secretariat processed your IPR statement in three business days. The
Secretaria
We sent a query to the community on March 16, 2012. There was a discussion on
the IETF mailing list. We also presented the topic in the IETF chair and IAOC
chair presentations at administrative plenary at IETF 83, and there was an
active discussion at the open mic that followed.
Our
At IETF 83, we had a discussion about the future of blue sheets, many spoke at
the mic in support of the proposal. There has been very little discussion on
the mail list. However, all of the discussion that I have see has been very
supportive.
The suggestion is three blue sheet changes:
1. N
We have heard from many community participants, and consensus is quite rough on
this topic. The IESG discussed this thread and reached two conclusions:
(1) Rough consensus: an open and transparent standards process is more
important to the IETF than privacy of blue sheet information.
(2) Rough
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