Re: Copying conditions

2004-10-11 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: reprinting full RFCs has been permitted & encouraged ever since RFCs were first published - the copyright on the RFCs makes that clear => no more since RFC 3667 which has made nothing clear for third parties. Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: only 7.1b su

Re: Copying conditions

2004-10-07 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: > i.e. the rights under 3667 are the same as under 2026 its just stated > more clearly Even if that is true, it would not change that the current copying conditions are a problem for the free software community, and in my opinion, consequently t

Re: Copying conditions

2004-10-07 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: > What is your goal, here? What is it you want to do that you can't do > because of either RFC 3667 or RFC 2026? Eliot, a few examples: For IDN, I want to be able to extract the tables from RFC 3454 and use them in my implementation

Re: Copying conditions

2004-10-07 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: > => I can't understand why the copyright about a text is a problem > for software when the documentation is explicitely "without > restriction of any kind". Where does it say this? Note that the quote I sent earlier was the old RFC 2026 copyin

Re: Copying conditions

2004-10-07 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: I am sorry to continue this, but I think it is valuable to have a complete discussion in public on record of this. Especially since Harald imply IETF hasn't been aware of this before. => I support you: - as an employee of a school who could incorpor

Re: Copying conditions

2004-10-07 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: > If you extract, say, a C header file, or an ASN.1 schema, from an RFC > into an application, I believe that may be regard as a "derivative > work". see RFC 3667 Section 3.3 (a) (E) (E) to extract, copy, publish, display, distribute,

Re: Why, technically, MIP and IPv6 can't be deployed

2004-11-09 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: > Could you describe why exactly IPv6 can't run on the (layer 2?) WLAN > infrastructure? That ND extensively, without any valid reason to do so, use multicast, which is not acknowledged at WLAN L2, means IPv6 or its ND is unreliable over congest

Re: As an ISP did you always get the IP chunk you wanted? (was Re: The gaps that NAT is filling)

2004-12-07 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: Has anyone present on this list ever experienced a problem in getting a new chunk of IP addresses from a RIR or from an ISP? => the administrative procedures used by RENATER, the French NREN, are so heavy than nobody wants to follow them to get some addres

Re: Last Call: 'Requirements for IETF Draft Submission Toolset' to Informational RFC

2005-04-08 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: I deliberately wanted to make the poll binary, but my assumption is that 'neither' must mainly represent that proprietary solution. I can't imagine many people generate I-Ds using a plain text editor, => why? I used a plain text editor before moving t

Re: Protocol Action: 'Pre-Shared Key Ciphersuites for Transport Layer Security (TLS)' to Proposed Standard

2005-06-27 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Pre-Shared Key Ciphersuites for Transport Layer Security (TLS) ' as a Proposed Standard => this document seems to go in the wrong way: pre-shared secrets are known to be weaker than certificates

Re: Protocol Action: 'Pre-Shared Key Ciphersuites for Transport Layer Security (TLS)' to Proposed Standard

2005-06-28 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: At 5:02 PM +0200 6/27/05, Francis Dupont wrote: >pre-shared secrets >are known to be weaker than certificates That statement is false for many common uses of preshared secrets and certificates. A preshared secret with even 80 b

Re: Keeping this IETF's schedule in the future...?

2005-08-03 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: What do other people think? => as an European I strongly agree! Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: the key point is "restaurants serve after 8pm"... This can be an issue in some places in winter. ___ Ietf mailing li

Re: The IETF Trust License is too restricted

2005-12-05 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: The text in section 9.5 appear to me to make it permanently impossible to incorporate portions of RFC in both free or proprietary products. I believe that is unacceptable, and that it is counter to the needs of many in the IETF community. => I

Re: problem dealing w/ ietf.org mail servers

2008-07-07 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: Specifically, the problem Dave encountered earlier was that the ietf mail server was rejecting mail without reverse dns, and since the ietf mail server and the mipassoc.org/dkim.org/bbiw.net mail servers all had ip6 addresses, and ip6 is used preferent

Re: Meeting Survey Results

2006-01-25 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: > There's a fairly long list of supported cards, some of which support > 802.11a. => as I've currently a 12" PowerBook I'd like to find a "wordwide usable" .11a USB dongle because: - the only time I used an .11a card it was great! - if enough persons are

Re: 'monotonic increasing'

2006-02-17 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: A "Dictionary of mathematics" offers both definitions, first what you found f(x) > f(y) for x > y. Followed by the other definition f(x) >= f(y), where the first case would be called "strictly monotone". I vaguely recall that "strict" (in the Ger

Re: In support of symbolic references

2007-04-06 Thread Francis Dupont
In his previous mail Jari wrote: > Maybe we can lobby for it to become the default. +1 (I think it would be the right default, even if I agree with John Klensin's concern.) => +1 too [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@iet

Re: NAT+PT for IPv6 Transition & Operator Feedback generally

2007-11-14 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: In any event, Alain Durand (Comcast) has just posted an I-D with some requirements in this area. He also made a public presentation asking for NAT+PT at the last NANOG. (I believe his NANOG presentation is available online in PDF; it was a "ligh

Re: IPv4 Outage Planned for IETF 71 Plenary

2007-12-15 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: Maybe reports of "the DNS is broken when you do go to pure IPv6" => it could be only if the solution was not known: it is enough to set up a recursive dual-stack DNS server (with an access list to serve only the local IPv6 as recursive servers are too easy to

Re: IAB policy on anti-spam mechanisms?

2003-02-28 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: The "nicest" solution that I can see is for the ISPs to transparently proxy port 25 to their MTA. They should offer STARTTLS. => I don't understand the word "transparently" here (:-). If one of my ISPs does such things, I'll sue it immediately: we have l

Re: [Fwd: [Asrg] Verisign: All Your Misspelling Are Belong To Us]

2003-09-18 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: People, have you been reading the posts? The stubby SMTP daemon is not an SMTP server, it is simply a program that returns the following set of responses TO ANYTHING THAT IS PASSED TO IT. => IMHO it should reject SMTP connection from the beginning w

Re: "IETF Approved" IPv6 courses by Charles Alexi

1999-12-09 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: This morning I received a telephone call from Jason Cook from an organization called ACM. => ICM (something like International Communications for Management) I guess at least some of this is the broken telephone effect from sales person to poten

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-09 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: Raw numbers of prefxies are pretty impressive. A IPv4 /20 is 4k "host" addresses. An IPv6 /116 is the same sized "chunk" so, the total number of /20s in the IPv4 world: 1024000 (stuff that into your router) /116s in a /48 chunk:343597383

Re: recommendation against publication of draft-cerpa-necp-02.txt

2000-04-10 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: > But IP-layer interception has some fairly significant limitations > for this application. ... There's a technical problem with IP intercepting that I've not seen mentioned, including in the draft. Any intercepting based on TCP or UDP port nu

Re: imode far superior to wap

2000-08-10 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: > One of the original reason that i-mode didnt go pure IP is they couldnt > get enough IP address for it (they designed i-mode to handle 6M users > originally) and that is quite huge for APNIC. IPv6 has been around for quite some time now, do you

Re: NATs *ARE* evil!

2000-12-19 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: While I wouldn't go quite that far, I've been saying for years that the IP header doesn't need any authentication if we have IPsec. => this is not true for IPv6 extension headers or IPv4 options. ... in a note explaining why I thought AH was useless

Re: Eliminating Virus Spam

2001-01-04 Thread Francis Dupont
Vernon, I fully agree with you: there is no reason to get multipart messages in technical discussion mailing lists. Even if your solution seems drastic this is the way we should go. Thanks! [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: The Internet and the Law, the Economist, 13-19 January 2001

2001-01-16 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: It seems to me that Mobile IPv6 could go a long way towards solving this problem, in conjunction with some sort of automatic home address assignment capability. ... Crucial to effective operation, however, will be the ability to set up tempor

Re: bandwidth (and other support) required for multicast

2001-03-31 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: It's time to accept the fact that something is very wrong. I don't know if the fatal flaws are in the basic idea, the routing, the greedy shortsightedness of ISP's, or some evil conspiracy. Regardless of why, if it is be dead dead, it's not alive.

Re: filtering of mailing lists and NATs

2001-05-22 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: This is not a technological problem - it is a social problem. We cannot fix spam by technological means - it has to be fixed by social means. => thanks for this nice summary about the spam problem! [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: AGENCEMENT-HOTELLERIE.COM

2001-09-26 Thread Francis Dupont
If you are not a French reader: this is SPAM!

Re: participation in IETF meetings

2001-10-23 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: >Including the people showing slides; at least >with printed acetate technology you don't have people stopping to >answer their Instant Messages. => I believe you are right for this point (banish power point! :-) bit not for others. Many

Re: participation in IETF meetings

2001-10-24 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: > In your previous mail you wrote: > > >Including the people showing slides; at least > >with printed acetate technology you don't have people stopping to > >answer their Instant Messages. Francis got the quoting above wrong. I didn't

Re: router types

2002-02-13 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: I *guess* you're joking, but... => no, Christian is right and the term was very successful in France. -Original Message- From: Christian Huitema [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Actually, the name is "brouteur", from the French verb "brout

Re: IPv6 MTU issues in FTTH applications

2002-02-23 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: I am trying to convince myself that the IEEE 802.3ah working group working on FTTH should not consider a proposal to increase the MTU size of Ethernet beyond 1500 bytes. => usually larger frames are better than the opposite: if IEEE 802.3ah WG on FTTH (

Re: utility of dynamic DNS

2002-03-01 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: Perhaps. Certainly stable IP address is preferable to being constantly and needlessly renumbered all the time (although if the practice became more prevelant, the silver lining is that it would likely put an end to that abomination known as IP-addres

Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process

2013-05-02 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: > If we are unwilling to bring "RFC" back to a place were it does not > equal STD, then we need to create a new category of document which > amounts to "fully baked ID". Things like IANA allocations could occur > at that point. => IMHO the last point (IANA a

Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process

2013-05-02 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: > We want the highest quality documents possible for developers to > translate into implementations. => I am afraid this statement is not fully consistent. Regards francis.dup...@fdupont.fr PS: note it is not an attack against you: in fact you gave a good su

Re: [Full-disclosure] IPv6 security myths

2010-10-31 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: My context is IPsec in the Internet, which excludes VPNs. => this is a bit unfair: VPNs are the natural model for IPsec use (putting back an uniform I could talk about red and black :-). Do you know some major application over the Internet using IPsec

Re: Last Call: (Updated Security Considerations for the MD5 Message-Digest and the HMAC-MD5 Algorithms) to Informational RFC

2010-12-08 Thread Francis Dupont
I have a concern about no security usages of MD5 for practical reasons: in some environments, including US Gov, crypto implementations (e.g., FIPS 140-2 HSMs) are required to not support MD5 so you can have to choose between a compliant application and a conformant crypto, for instance for DNS TSIG

Re: Last Call: (Updated Security Considerations for the MD5 Message-Digest and the HMAC-MD5 Algorithms) to Informational RFC

2010-12-08 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: The logic doesn't make sense in this position. "Crypto modules can't use MD5, thus no protocols at all should use MD5." => this is a silly/bad/... consequence of the crypto label attached to the MD5 name. I understand you are not happy with this but wha

Re: Last Call: (Updated Security Considerations for the MD5 Message-Digest and the HMAC-MD5 Algorithms) to Informational RFC

2010-12-09 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: I think a published update to MD5 security considerations should clearly say what it's still fine to do with MD5, in addition to what it's not safe to do. This would mean adding a couple sentences, and that's about all it would really take to be clear

Re: Last Call: (Updated Security Considerations for the MD5 Message-Digest and the HMAC-MD5 Algorithms) to Informational RFC

2010-12-11 Thread Francis Dupont
I add a third option: enforce the fact the document is about "security considerations" and add nothing about not security uses, one way or the other. Regards francis.dup...@fdupont.fr ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/list

Re: Last Call: (Updated Security Considerations for the MD5 Message-Digest and the HMAC-MD5 Algorithms) to Informational RFC

2010-12-21 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: I'm OK with this text. I tried to come up with a way to briefly discuss how error detection is very related to things like protecting against substitution of content (the internet mirror case) but failed to come up with something brief. So, I'm fin

Re: [Int-area] Last Call: (Logging recommendations for Internet facing servers) to BCP

2011-03-17 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: This is a late comment but I think it is worth raising it. => as the gen-art reviewer of the document I'd like to understand the comment. This I-D recommends to log the source port number for internet-facing servers. But due to the presence of load-b

problems with mail.ietf.org

2011-04-22 Thread Francis Dupont
mail.ietf.org changed its IPv4 address (it was 64.170.98.32, now it is 208.66.40.236) leaving at its previous address something (i.e., a SMTP server) which blindly eats messages. I strongly suggest to remove the SMTP server at the previous address so it no longer misleads people to believe their m

Re: problems with mail.ietf.org

2011-04-22 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: So I'm having trouble guessing why your systems are still seeing 64.170.93.22, much less sending mail to it. => a long time ago mail.ietf.org anti-spam dropped SMTP over IPv6 from a MTA address without a PTR. I put a workaround using the IPv4 address (th

Re: resignation business

2009-04-20 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: I gather that this has something to do with French capitals. Would that be whether a letter with an accent retains the accent when capitalized? => this was and is the rule but because of typewriters the rule was suspended during the 20th century. Now

Re: DNS over SCTP (was: Re: [Asrg] DNS-based Email Sender Authentication Mechanisms: a Critical Review

2009-05-29 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: I thought TCP was the default when the UDP message size is not enough. => with EDNS0 this is a bit more complex but IMHO this is the idea. Note the recommended "connection management" (RFC 1025 4.2.2) suggests multiple queries/responses too. That's, AFAIK

Re: DNS over SCTP

2009-05-29 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: Shouldn't be difficult. I'm not much into either technology, but since SCTP can be tunneled through UDP, it should be possible to retrofit SCTP adoption onto an existing DNS implementation. On an OS that provides SCTP natively, a module inserted bet

Re: DNS over SCTP

2009-05-30 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: => I keep this because your answer is not about this... > I don't understand your argument: it seems to apply to UDP over SCTP > but here we have SCTP over UDP. BTW the easiest way to convert DNS > over UDP into DNS over SCTP is to use an ALG (appli

Re: DNSSEC is NOT secure end to end

2009-05-31 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: > => not only this is very arguable (for instance about the resource > exhaustion) but no hop-by-hop/channel security, even something as > strong as TSIG, can provide what we need, i.e., end-to-end/object > security (*). > PS (*): I use the common m

Re: T-Shirt Design Contest for IETF 83 Paris

2012-01-31 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: > I hope a T-Shirt will feature my favorite French hero Super Dupont > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdupont +1 (I should not have to explain why :-) Thanks francis.dup...@fdupont.fr ___ Ietf mailing list

Re: IPv6 Zone Identifiers Considered Hateful

2012-03-19 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: > So zone suffixes are considered hateful. => in fact it is not the problem: link-local address are considered hateful. Regards francis.dup...@fdupont.fr PS: at least for use in standard applications.

Re: Fact.Check IETF Meeting - 1460 registrations:

2012-03-25 Thread Francis Dupont
Randy (oops, Jim), what is the meaning of the YES/NO? BTW most NICs (AFNIC for instance) are also not-profit public benefit. And you can add the few persons who pay themselves the registration, Remi Despres, etc. Regards francis.dup...@fdupont.fr (also fdup...@isc.org)

Re: IPv6 Zone Identifiers Considered Hateful

2012-03-28 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: > Looking at the link-local address, it appears to be constructed from > the interface's MAC address, and basically nothing else. ^^^ => note the IEEE spec says device MAC address and if the common interpretation is device == NIC there is at leas