Re: draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis

2013-09-04 Thread S Moonesamy
At 13:16 03-09-2013, Barry Leiba wrote: I agree with Scott that the stuff between the commas doesn't belong here. That is, it doesn't belong *here*; it can certainly go into a sentence or paragraph with advice for native English speakers. Consider something like this instead: Participants m

RE: [v6ops] Last Call: (Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Profile for 3GPP Mobile Devices) to Informational RFC

2013-09-04 Thread david.binet
Hi Lorenzo Answers below David De : v6ops-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:v6ops-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Lorenzo Colitti Envoyé : mercredi 4 septembre 2013 10:04 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN Cc : v6...@ietf.org WG; IETF Discussion Objet : Re: [v6ops] Last Call:

Re: [v6ops] Last Call: (Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Profile for 3GPP Mobile Devices) to Informational RFC

2013-09-04 Thread Lorenzo Colitti
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:31 PM, wrote: > it is about ** a ** profile for mobile devices. > But wait... if it's just *a* profile, then why is the IETF publishing this particular profile, and not any other profile? Is this an IETF recommended profile? If, so then the document should state why. If n

Re: [v6ops] Last Call: (Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Profile for 3GPP Mobile Devices) to Informational RFC

2013-09-04 Thread Lorenzo Colitti
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:29 PM, wrote: > ** > > But wait... if it's just *a* profile, then why is the IETF publishing this > particular profile, and not any other profile? Is this an IETF recommended > profile? If, so then the document should state why. If not, then the > document should state th

Re: [v6ops] Last Call: (Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Profile for 3GPP Mobile Devices) to Informational RFC

2013-09-04 Thread Lorenzo Colitti
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:07 PM, wrote: > Ok. So maybe you can put in the draft that this profile is a profile > supported by several operators, but not necessarily endorsed by the IETF? > ** > > *[Med] The document followed the IETF procedures and was benefited from > the inputs and review of IET

RE: [v6ops] Last Call: (Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Profile for 3GPP Mobile Devices) to Informational RFC

2013-09-04 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Lorenzo, We already answered to several of the points in previous discussions (during the call for adoption and also during the WGLC). We also made some changes in the last version to make the language clear (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile-05): it is about

RE: [v6ops] Last Call: (Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Profile for 3GPP Mobile Devices) to Informational RFC

2013-09-04 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, See inline. Cheers, Med De : Lorenzo Colitti [mailto:lore...@google.com] Envoyé : mercredi 4 septembre 2013 10:51 À : BINET David IMT/OLN Cc : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; v6...@ietf.org WG; IETF Discussion Objet : Re: [v6ops] Last Call: (Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Profile for 3GPP

RE: [v6ops] Last Call: (Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Profile for 3GPP Mobile Devices) to Informational RFC

2013-09-04 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Lorenzo Colitti [mailto:lore...@google.com] Envoyé : mercredi 4 septembre 2013 11:25 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN Cc : BINET David IMT/OLN; v6...@ietf.org WG; IETF Discussion Objet : Re: [v6ops] Last Call: (Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Profile fo

Re: [v6ops] Last Call: (Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Profile for 3GPP Mobile Devices) to Informational RFC

2013-09-04 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 06:25:17PM +0900, Lorenzo Colitti wrote: > > Sure, but the majority are mandatory, and don't forget that some of them > > are quite large (e.g., "implement RFC 6204"). Also, I believe it's not the > > IETF's role to produce vendor requirements documents. The considerati

RE: [v6ops] Last Call: (Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Profile for 3GPP Mobile Devices) to Informational RFC

2013-09-04 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Abdussalam, Many thanks for your review and suggestions. The changes you proposed have been integrated in -05 (see http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile-05). As for your question about IP mobility, this is not relevant in the context of this document. Mobi

Re: PS Characterization Clarified

2013-09-04 Thread Barry Leiba
>> The only concern I have is that once we do this -- declare that PS is >> always more mature than that -- we can't go back. Do we *really* want >> to say that we will never again approve a PS spec that's partially >> baked? This is painting us into the room where PS is mature and >> robust. If

Re: PS Characterization Clarified

2013-09-04 Thread Randy Bush
> OK, somebody has to say it. Maybe we should have another state, > something like draft standard. [ sob alluded to a private message from me which said ] while i really like the idea of pushing well-tested interoperable documents to full standards, i think tested interop is key here. hence i li

Re: PS Characterization Clarified

2013-09-04 Thread Spencer Dawkins
On 9/4/2013 11:14 AM, Scott Brim wrote: On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Barry Leiba wrote: The only concern I have is that once we do this -- declare that PS is always more mature than that -- we can't go back. Do we *really* want to say that we will never again approve a PS spec that's parti

Re: PS Characterization Clarified

2013-09-04 Thread Scott Brim
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Barry Leiba wrote: >>> The only concern I have is that once we do this -- declare that PS is >>> always more mature than that -- we can't go back. Do we *really* want >>> to say that we will never again approve a PS spec that's partially >>> baked? This is painti

Piling on [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-kaplan-insipid-session-id-03.txt

2013-09-04 Thread James Polk
All I've been out on leave since just after Berlin (which I had to cancel at the last minute, so I wasn't able to attend in realtime, or present the INSIPID reqs and solutions drafts - which I normally do at each IETF). Somewhere along the way, it was decided that draft-kaplan-insipid-session

RE: [v6ops] Last Call: (Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Profile for 3GPP Mobile Devices) to Informational RFC

2013-09-04 Thread SM
At 02:43 04-09-2013, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: [Med] The document followed the IETF procedures and was benefited from the inputs and review of IETF participants; and as such it is an IETF document. We included text to precise this is not a standard but an informational document. FWIW,

Re: REVISED Last Call: (The Pseudowire (PW) & Virtual Circuit Connectivity Verification (VCCV) Implementation Survey Results) to Informational RFC

2013-09-04 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
The Reviewer: Abdussalam Baryun Date: 05.09.2013 I-D name: draft-ietf-pwe3-vccv-impl-survey-results Received your Request dated 04.09.2013 ++ The reviewer supports the draft subject to amendments. Overall the survey is not easy to be used as source of information related to

Re: An IANA Registry for DNS TXT RDATA (I-D Action: draft-klensin-iana-txt-rr-registry-00.txt)

2013-09-04 Thread Masataka Ohta
John C Klensin wrote: >> Still, the draft may assure new usages compatible with each >> other. > > That is the hope. The problem is that an existing and an new usages may not be compatible. >> If we need subtypes because 16bit RRTYPE space is not enough >> (I don't think so), the issue should b