Re: draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis

2013-09-01 Thread S Moonesamy
Hi Eduardo, At 23:19 31-08-2013, Eduardo A. Suarez wrote: I think both parties have to try to express clearly. Those who do not have the English as their native language should also try to do so. Agreed. What is unbearable to me is that in more than one discussion in a mailing list someone's

Re: draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis

2013-09-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
Melinda Shore wrote: >On 8/31/13 10:15 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> That does seem better, but don't all parties have an obligation to >attempt to >> communicate clearly? > >Yes, but ... > >I think it's particularly incumbent on native English speakers to >avoid highly idiomatic or stylized la

Re: draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis

2013-09-01 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
On 9/1/13, S Moonesamy wrote: > Hi Eduardo, > At 23:19 31-08-2013, Eduardo A. Suarez wrote: >>I think both parties have to try to express clearly. Those who do not >>have the English as their native language should also try to do so. > > Agreed. > >>What is unbearable to me is that in more than on

Re: draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis

2013-09-01 Thread Barry Leiba
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >>I think it's particularly incumbent on native English speakers to >>avoid highly idiomatic or stylized language - English that is not >>taught to non-native speakers. It may be better to say something >>along those lines, although I don't

Re: draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis

2013-09-01 Thread Dave Crocker
On 9/1/2013 9:08 AM, Barry Leiba wrote: I think Scott has put this perfectly, and it's exactly right. The main point is clear communication. Everything else is advice about how to achieve that. Both are needed. Especially for a topic like this. That is, for each point, the principle or con

Re: draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis

2013-09-01 Thread S Moonesamy
Hi Eduardo, At 08:44 01-09-2013, Eduardo A. Suárez wrote: the problem is that when one is arguing against the opinion of another person, it is very easy for the recipient to respond "you do not write well and I do not understand" and so disqualify his opponent. "You do not write well" is not a

Re: draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis

2013-09-01 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 02/09/2013 04:22, Dave Crocker wrote: > On 9/1/2013 9:08 AM, Barry Leiba wrote: >> I think Scott has put this perfectly, and it's exactly right. The >> main point is clear communication. Everything else is advice about >> how to achieve that. > > > Both are needed. Especially for a topic li

Re: An IANA Registry for DNS TXT RDATA (I-D Action: draft-klensin-iana-txt-rr-registry-00.txt)

2013-09-01 Thread John C Klensin
--On Saturday, August 31, 2013 23:50 +0900 Masataka Ohta wrote: > The draft does not assure that existing usages are compatible > with each other. It absolutely does not. I actually expect it to help identify some usages that are at least confusing and possible incompatible. > Still, the dra