--On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 09:22 +0300 IETF Chair
wrote:
> I wanted to let you know about an experiment we are trying out
> in Berlin.
>...
> But we want as many people as possible to become involved in
> these efforts, or at least provide their feedback during the
> week. So we have given a
John,
> In the interest of encouraging remote participation and
> involvement in those BOFs, could these posters be made available
> online before the reception? Will they eventually be
> incorporated into the minutes?
Good questions. We can work on that…
> And, incidentally, is there a way fo
--On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:17 +0300 Jari Arkko
wrote:
>> And, incidentally, is there a way for remote participants to
>> sign up for one or both meeting-related mailing lists without
>> registering (or using a "remote participation registration"
>> mechanism, which would be my preference
>> > other than pinyin which are common and normatively correct. For those
>> > Chinese people, your document does not apply. As an example, the
>> > current
>> > chief executive of Hong Kong is properly called Leung Chun Ying (梁振英);
>> > his
>> > predecessor in that role was Tung Chee Hwa (董建華)
Cullen Jennings (fluffy) wrote:
There is one thing that as far as I can tell that all the implementors agree
on. None of the implications control the resolution using
m=video 62537 RTP/SAVPF 96
a=rtpmap:96 VP8/9
a=fmtp:96 max-fr=30;max-fs=3600
What resolution do you think "max-fs=
I am another remote participant who would like to be able to subscribe to
the meeting-specific mailing list.
I can skip (myself) the ones about coffee and cookies, but definitely
want to read the ones about schedule changes, etc.
And even the other messages give me a taste of "what it would
On 7/24/13 12:30 AM, John C Klensin wrote:
> Yes. I was thinking a bit more generally. For example,
> schedule changes during the meeting week, IIR, go to NNall, and
> not ietf-announce. As a remote participant, one might prefer
> to avoid the usual (and interminable) discussions about coffee
>
Janet,
> I am another remote participant who would like to be able to subscribe to the
> meeting-specific mailing list.
>
> I can skip (myself) the ones about coffee and cookies, but definitely want
> to read the ones about schedule changes, etc.
>
> And even the other messages give me a t
Hi,
The latest issue of the IETF Journal (Volume 9, Issue 1) is available online:
http://internetsociety.org/ietfjournal
Among many others it contains articles on software-defined networking, WebRTC
and the Networking History BoF.
In addition you will find summary reports of the IETF 8
--On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 06:43 -0800 Melinda Shore
wrote:
> On 7/24/13 12:30 AM, John C Klensin wrote:
>> Yes. I was thinking a bit more generally. For example,
>> schedule changes during the meeting week, IIR, go to NNall,
>> and not ietf-announce. As a remote participant, one might
>
On 24 Jul 2013, at 16:18, Jari Arkko wrote:
> Janet,
>
>> I am another remote participant who would like to be able to subscribe to
>> the meeting-specific mailing list.
>>
>> I can skip (myself) the ones about coffee and cookies, but definitely want
>> to read the ones about schedule chan
>
> I see no reason why the 87attend...@ietf.org list shouldn't be open to remote
> participants. Is that not the case already? We should be doing all we can to
> encourage participation.
Several people pointed out already (in private e-mail) that the list might be
all that is needed, and it p
The point of having a separate list for participants was to avoid
spamming the ietf list.
It can be open to everyone to subscribe to, since anyone can see the
archives, HOWEVER I recommend that only registered participants be
allowed to post.
Scott
On 7/24/13 9:07 AM, John C Klensin wrote:
--On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 06:43 -0800 Melinda Shore
wrote:
On 7/24/13 12:30 AM, John C Klensin wrote:
Yes. I was thinking a bit more generally. For example,
schedule changes during the meeting week, IIR, go to NNall,
and not ietf-announce. As
--On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 17:46 +0100 Tim Chown
wrote:
> I see no reason why the 87attend...@ietf.org list shouldn't be
> open to remote participants. Is that not the case already? We
> should be doing all we can to encourage participation.
It is already. It is a bit hard to find, but it
> Unfortunately 87...@ietf.org --the "announce" version of the
> list-- is where the really important things, like schedule
> changes, show up. And, at least as far as I can tell, there is
> no way for a non-registrant to get on that list.
Has anyone tried to subscribe on the listinfo page?:
http
John,
As I understand it, the meeting-specific mailing lists are used either
mostly
or exclusively for "chatting" about stuff at the meeting that is most relevant
to folks
at the meeting. Stuff like network/power/room issues, potential social
activities,
etc.
If folks that are
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 02:26:21PM -0400, John C Klensin wrote:
> Unfortunately 87...@ietf.org --the "announce" version of the
> list-- is where the really important things, like schedule
> changes, show up. And, at least as far as I can tell, there is
> no way for a non-registrant to get on that
At 16:06 15-07-2013, The IESG wrote:
The IESG has received a request from the Web Extensible Internet
Registration Data Service WG (weirds) to consider the following document:
- 'Security Services for the Registration Data Access Protocol'
as Proposed Standard
The IESG plans to make a decisio
On 25/07/2013 05:01, Scott Brim wrote:
> The point of having a separate list for participants was to avoid
> spamming the ietf list.
>
> It can be open to everyone to subscribe to, since anyone can see the
> archives, HOWEVER I recommend that only registered participants be
> allowed to post.
Ahe
On Jul 24, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Brian E Carpenter
wrote:
> I would envisage a fair amount of chatter about
> specific remote-participation issues, like "this new codec isn't
> working for me, is it OK for anyone else using on
> ?"
We get that on the attendees list anyway sometimes, and I think it'
Hi,
Why couldn't remote participants register to the meeting like all other
participants?
Remote participation would of course still be free, but it would allow remote
participants to subscribe to the attendee list in the same way as other
participants.
In addition, it would provide better kn
On 24/07/13 09:30, John C Klensin wrote:
--On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:17 +0300 Jari Arkko
wrote:
And, incidentally, is there a way for remote participants to
sign up for one or both meeting-related mailing lists without
registering (or using a "remote participation registration"
mechanism
Hi Christer,
At 13:54 24-07-2013, Christer Holmberg wrote:
Why couldn't remote participants register to the meeting like all
other participants?
Remote participation would of course still be free, but it would
allow remote participants to subscribe to the attendee list in the
same way as othe
--On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 14:36 -0400 Barry Leiba
wrote:
>> Unfortunately 87...@ietf.org --the "announce" version of the
>> list-- is where the really important things, like schedule
>> changes, show up. And, at least as far as I can tell, there
>> is no way for a non-registrant to get on
>> Has anyone tried to subscribe on the listinfo page?:
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87all
>
> I'm sorry to be difficult about this, but the point I was trying
> to make was about access by relatively remote relative
> newcomers. For them, at least, the question is not "does the
> list
Brian: yes but non-registered thus non-ifentifiable subscribers, spammers
etc don't.
On Jul 24, 2013 3:56 PM, "Brian E Carpenter"
wrote:
> On 25/07/2013 05:01, Scott Brim wrote:
> > The point of having a separate list for participants was to avoid
> > spamming the ietf list.
> >
> > It can be ope
On 7/24/13 10:35 AM, Eric Gray wrote:
> These lists are not - AFAIK - intended for "meeting participation"
> anywhere near as much as they are for meeting logisitics.
My experience has been that they're for both, and while
I'll be a remote participant this time I've already
subscribed to the 87att
On 25/07/2013 11:27, Scott Brim wrote:
> Brian: yes but non-registered thus non-ifentifiable subscribers, spammers
> etc don't.
We're talking about a list with a useful lifetime of perhaps 3 weeks.
I really don't think spam is a big issue. Trolls might be, but they
would be *our* trolls ;-)
Anywa
I like Aaron's suggestion to update the web with important information about a
meeting. There is a lot of mail on the list and that could be a useful way to
communicate updates, etc.
Best regards,
Kathleen
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On Jul 25, 2013, at 12:12 AM, "Brian E Carpenter"
wrote:
> On 2
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