Re: draft-ietf-nat-protocol-complications-02.txt

2000-07-10 Thread Jon Crowcroft
>>Any comments on the content of the draft? I would go further - first to define by exclusion, secondly to define a new class of providers (according tro common uisage) so that discussion can proceed An ISP _hosts_ its own and customer's hosts. Hosts follow the hosts requirements RFC, at l

Re: draft-ietf-nat-protocol-complications-02.txt

2000-07-10 Thread Masataka Ohta
Jon; > >>Any comments on the content of the draft? > > I would go further - first to define by exclusion, secondly to define > a new class of providers (according tro common uisage) so that > discussion can proceed My intention is to provide a semi permanent definition as an Informational RF

Re: Speakers - WAP CONVENTION - The European Event

2000-07-10 Thread Jon Knight
On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Rosie Drugeault wrote: > why don't you come along to WAPconvention 2000 and give our delegates that > warm fuzzy feeling with the real story? 'Cos I've got better things to do with my time than go to conventions. ;-) Tatty bye, Jim'll

Re: draft-ietf-nat-protocol-complications-02.txt

2000-07-10 Thread Randy Bush
>> I would go further - first to define by exclusion, secondly to define >> a new class of providers (according tro common uisage) so that >> discussion can proceed > > My intention is to provide a semi permanent definition as an Informational > RFC. > > It is important to make the definition p

MPLS Global Summit

2000-07-10 Thread Ann Pendleton
MPLS Global Summit taking place October 3-4, 2000 at the Fairmont Copley Plaza in Boston, MA. As you may know this is ICM's third MPLS event. The program has been recognized as one of the leading industry events. The most recent gathering in San Diego attracted approximately 250 representati

Re: draft-ietf-nat-protocol-complications-02.txt

2000-07-10 Thread Keith Moore
> of course you will exuse the providers if we continue to be perverse and > find new business models. not bloody likely. some things are inexcusable. munging data in transit is one of them. the fact that you may have a business model that says you can make money doing something that is inexcu

Re: draft-ietf-nat-protocol-complications-02.txt

2000-07-10 Thread Patrik Fältström
At 21.43 -0400 00-07-10, Keith Moore wrote: >not bloody likely. some things are inexcusable. munging data in >transit is one of them. the fact that you may have a business >model that says you can make money doing something that is inexcusable >is not a justification for doing that thing. I do

Re: draft-ietf-nat-protocol-complications-02.txt

2000-07-10 Thread Randy Bush
>> of course you will exuse the providers if we continue to be perverse and >> find new business models. > > not bloody likely. some things are inexcusable. munging data in > transit is one of them. the fact that you may have a business > model that says you can make money doing something that