Re: Martians

2013-03-15 Thread Randall Gellens
At 2:45 PM -0400 3/12/13, John C Klensin wrote: I've gotten some feedback that some people thought I was identifying them as Martians and were offended. Wow, that is actually pretty funny. Sorry. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only ---

Re: Martians

2013-03-13 Thread t . p .
- Original Message - From: "Stephen Casner" To: "Noel Chiappa" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:10 PM > On Wed, 13 Mar 2013, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > > > > > "Martian" is nice expression. > > > > Weren't 'unusual' packets called 'Martians' at some early stage of Internet > > work

RE: Martians

2013-03-13 Thread George, Wes
> From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Spencer Dawkins > > At least some of the nerdier nerds were probably thinking "how could *I* > become a Martian? because that would be so cool!" ... > [WEG] followed immediately by a complaint thread on this list asking wh

Re: Martians

2013-03-13 Thread Scott Brim
On 03/13/13 11:10, Stephen Casner allegedly wrote: > On Wed, 13 Mar 2013, Noel Chiappa wrote: > >> > Subject: Re: Martians >> >> > "Martian" is nice expression. >> >> Weren't 'unusual' packets called 'Martians'

Re: Martians

2013-03-13 Thread Stephen Casner
On Wed, 13 Mar 2013, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > Subject: Re: Martians > > > "Martian" is nice expression. > > Weren't 'unusual' packets called 'Martians' at some early stage of Internet > work? It certainly has history in the IETF

Re: Martians

2013-03-13 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/13/13 10:24 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > Subject: Re: Martians > "Martian" is nice expression. Weren't 'unusual' packets called 'Martians' at some early stage of Internet work? It certainly has history in the IETF as a term of art, I thi

Re: Martians

2013-03-13 Thread John C Klensin
--On Tuesday, 12 March, 2013 16:21 -0400 Marc Blanchet wrote: > I was not offended, but I was in strong disagreement with your > second comment that by having a co-editor assigned to help, it > would make these "Martians" second-class citizens in the IETF. > I completly disagree. Everybody need

Re: Martians

2013-03-13 Thread Noel Chiappa
> Subject: Re: Martians > "Martian" is nice expression. Weren't 'unusual' packets called 'Martians' at some early stage of Internet work? It certainly has history in the IETF as a term of art, I think that's it. Noel

Re: Martians

2013-03-12 Thread Turchanyi Geza
Hi, "Martian” is nice expression. Top level Hungarian physicists working in various aspects of nuclear physics in the early forties in the States were called Martians as they used a funny language amongst themselves, i.e. Hungarian. This group includes John von Neumann, Leo Szilard, Ede Teller a

Re: Martians

2013-03-12 Thread Spencer Dawkins
On 3/12/2013 1:45 PM, John C Klensin wrote: In any event, I've gotten some feedback that some people thought I was identifying them as Martians and were offended. No offense was intended and I used the "Martian" terminology precisely to avoid that possibility. I obviously failed and apologize

Re: Martians

2013-03-12 Thread Roberto Peon
I didn't know we had a leader. I though we were an autonomous collective! Seriously though, editing for language is something we could take off the shoulders of technical editors at least part of the time. I'd want for them (and maybe chairs+ADs) to be the ones using such a resource, should it exi

Re: Martians

2013-03-12 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Oh, I forgot: NOW TAKE ME TO YOUR LEADER !! :D On 3/12/13 5:48 PM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: > I wasn't offended either, but I can see how some people might have felt. > > Moving on, what I do believe is that many i-d's could benefit from a > review by a linguist. > > This role, IMO, is differe

Re: Martians

2013-03-12 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
I wasn't offended either, but I can see how some people might have felt. Moving on, what I do believe is that many i-d's could benefit from a review by a linguist. This role, IMO, is different from the role of an editor. The linguist doesn't need to have any technical background. He is more like

Re: Martians

2013-03-12 Thread Marc Blanchet
Le 2013-03-12 à 14:45, John C Klensin a écrit : > Hi > > At last night's plenary, I raised some related issues about the > difficulties posed by the interactions between current systems > for developing and editing documents working groups through the > approval and publication processes and th