--On Saturday, July 27, 2013 03:25 -0700 Alexa Morris
wrote:
>> (3) While it is almost certainly too late to populate it
>> before Berlin, I think the meeting page template could use a
>> "Remote Participants" main section with pointers to hints and
>> other relevant materials, including which
On 27/07/13 11:25, Alexa Morris wrote:
We have created a small section called Remote Participation on the lower right
side of the 87 meeting page here: http://www.ietf.org/meeting/87/index.html. It
can and will be improved over time, but it's a start.
+1. The key parts are there now.
Thank
>
> (3) While it is almost certainly too late to populate it before
> Berlin, I think the meeting page template could use a "Remote
> Participants" main section with pointers to hints and other
> relevant materials, including which mailing lists one should
> watch and that the web version of the m
PDFs of all received BoF posters have been uploaded to the Meeting Materials
page for those who are interested:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/87/materials.html.
Regards,
Alexa
On Jul 26, 2013, at 3:36 AM, Benoit Claise wrote:
> John,
>>
>> --On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 09:22 +0300 IETF
John,
--On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 09:22 +0300 IETF Chair
wrote:
I wanted to let you know about an experiment we are trying out
in Berlin.
...
But we want as many people as possible to become involved in
these efforts, or at least provide their feedback during the
week. So we have given an o
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Abdussalam Baryun
wrote:
> How can I access the live discuss while remote?
Sheldon Cooper had a good idea:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5LKXO9aCTc
that is becoming more real every day:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2013/06/27/rise-of-the-telep
On 26 Jul 2013, at 07:36, Abdussalam Baryun wrote:
> On 7/24/13, John C Klensin wrote:
>>
>> --On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 09:22 +0300 IETF Chair
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I wanted to let you know about an experiment we are trying out
>>> in Berlin.
>>> ...
>>> But we want as many people as possible t
On 7/24/13, John C Klensin wrote:
>
>
> --On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 09:22 +0300 IETF Chair
> wrote:
>
>> I wanted to let you know about an experiment we are trying out
>> in Berlin.
>>...
>> But we want as many people as possible to become involved in
>> these efforts, or at least provide their
tor.net]
> To: Christer Holmberg [christer.holmb...@ericsson.com]
> CC: John C Klensin [john-i...@jck.com]; ietf@ietf.org [ietf@ietf.org]
> Subject: Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF
> posters in the welcome reception
> Hi Christer,
> At 13:54 24-07-2013, Chris
On 25/07/13 05:27, Moriarty, Kathleen wrote:
I like Aaron's suggestion to update the web with important information about a
meeting. There is a lot of mail on the list and that could be a useful way to
communicate updates, etc.
Thanks, in case the previous mail is down in the pile already...
: Christer Holmberg [christer.holmb...@ericsson.com]
CC: John C Klensin [john-i...@jck.com]; ietf@ietf.org [ietf@ietf.org]
Subject: Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF
posters in the welcome reception
Hi Christer,
At 13:54 24-07-2013, Christer Holmberg wrote:
>
I like Aaron's suggestion to update the web with important information about a
meeting. There is a lot of mail on the list and that could be a useful way to
communicate updates, etc.
Best regards,
Kathleen
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 25, 2013, at 12:12 AM, "Brian E Carpenter"
wrote:
> On 2
On 25/07/2013 11:27, Scott Brim wrote:
> Brian: yes but non-registered thus non-ifentifiable subscribers, spammers
> etc don't.
We're talking about a list with a useful lifetime of perhaps 3 weeks.
I really don't think spam is a big issue. Trolls might be, but they
would be *our* trolls ;-)
Anywa
On 7/24/13 10:35 AM, Eric Gray wrote:
> These lists are not - AFAIK - intended for "meeting participation"
> anywhere near as much as they are for meeting logisitics.
My experience has been that they're for both, and while
I'll be a remote participant this time I've already
subscribed to the 87att
Brian: yes but non-registered thus non-ifentifiable subscribers, spammers
etc don't.
On Jul 24, 2013 3:56 PM, "Brian E Carpenter"
wrote:
> On 25/07/2013 05:01, Scott Brim wrote:
> > The point of having a separate list for participants was to avoid
> > spamming the ietf list.
> >
> > It can be ope
>> Has anyone tried to subscribe on the listinfo page?:
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87all
>
> I'm sorry to be difficult about this, but the point I was trying
> to make was about access by relatively remote relative
> newcomers. For them, at least, the question is not "does the
> list
--On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 14:36 -0400 Barry Leiba
wrote:
>> Unfortunately 87...@ietf.org --the "announce" version of the
>> list-- is where the really important things, like schedule
>> changes, show up. And, at least as far as I can tell, there
>> is no way for a non-registrant to get on
Hi Christer,
At 13:54 24-07-2013, Christer Holmberg wrote:
Why couldn't remote participants register to the meeting like all
other participants?
Remote participation would of course still be free, but it would
allow remote participants to subscribe to the attendee list in the
same way as othe
On 24/07/13 09:30, John C Klensin wrote:
--On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:17 +0300 Jari Arkko
wrote:
And, incidentally, is there a way for remote participants to
sign up for one or both meeting-related mailing lists without
registering (or using a "remote participation registration"
mechanism
enter [brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com]
To: Scott Brim [scott.b...@gmail.com]
CC: John C Klensin [john-i...@jck.com]; Tim Chown [t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk];
ietf@ietf.org list [ietf@ietf.org]
Subject: Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF
posters in the welcome reception
On 25/07
On Jul 24, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Brian E Carpenter
wrote:
> I would envisage a fair amount of chatter about
> specific remote-participation issues, like "this new codec isn't
> working for me, is it OK for anyone else using on
> ?"
We get that on the attendees list anyway sometimes, and I think it'
On 25/07/2013 05:01, Scott Brim wrote:
> The point of having a separate list for participants was to avoid
> spamming the ietf list.
>
> It can be open to everyone to subscribe to, since anyone can see the
> archives, HOWEVER I recommend that only registered participants be
> allowed to post.
Ahe
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 02:26:21PM -0400, John C Klensin wrote:
> Unfortunately 87...@ietf.org --the "announce" version of the
> list-- is where the really important things, like schedule
> changes, show up. And, at least as far as I can tell, there is
> no way for a non-registrant to get on that
re for meeting logisitics.
--
Eric
-Original Message-
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John C
Klensin
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 2:26 PM
To: Tim Chown; Jari Arkko
Cc: ietf@ietf.org list
Subject: Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing List
> Unfortunately 87...@ietf.org --the "announce" version of the
> list-- is where the really important things, like schedule
> changes, show up. And, at least as far as I can tell, there is
> no way for a non-registrant to get on that list.
Has anyone tried to subscribe on the listinfo page?:
http
--On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 17:46 +0100 Tim Chown
wrote:
> I see no reason why the 87attend...@ietf.org list shouldn't be
> open to remote participants. Is that not the case already? We
> should be doing all we can to encourage participation.
It is already. It is a bit hard to find, but it
The point of having a separate list for participants was to avoid
spamming the ietf list.
It can be open to everyone to subscribe to, since anyone can see the
archives, HOWEVER I recommend that only registered participants be
allowed to post.
Scott
>
> I see no reason why the 87attend...@ietf.org list shouldn't be open to remote
> participants. Is that not the case already? We should be doing all we can to
> encourage participation.
Several people pointed out already (in private e-mail) that the list might be
all that is needed, and it p
On 24 Jul 2013, at 16:18, Jari Arkko wrote:
> Janet,
>
>> I am another remote participant who would like to be able to subscribe to
>> the meeting-specific mailing list.
>>
>> I can skip (myself) the ones about coffee and cookies, but definitely want
>> to read the ones about schedule chan
--On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 06:43 -0800 Melinda Shore
wrote:
> On 7/24/13 12:30 AM, John C Klensin wrote:
>> Yes. I was thinking a bit more generally. For example,
>> schedule changes during the meeting week, IIR, go to NNall,
>> and not ietf-announce. As a remote participant, one might
>
Janet,
> I am another remote participant who would like to be able to subscribe to the
> meeting-specific mailing list.
>
> I can skip (myself) the ones about coffee and cookies, but definitely want
> to read the ones about schedule changes, etc.
>
> And even the other messages give me a t
On 7/24/13 12:30 AM, John C Klensin wrote:
> Yes. I was thinking a bit more generally. For example,
> schedule changes during the meeting week, IIR, go to NNall, and
> not ietf-announce. As a remote participant, one might prefer
> to avoid the usual (and interminable) discussions about coffee
>
would be like to
be there".
Janet
ietf-boun...@ietf.org wrote on 07/24/2013 04:30:40 AM:
> From: John C Klensin
> To: Jari Arkko
> Cc: ietf@ietf.org
> Date: 07/24/2013 04:31 AM
> Subject: Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception
> Sent by: ietf-boun...@ietf.org
>
--On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:17 +0300 Jari Arkko
wrote:
>> And, incidentally, is there a way for remote participants to
>> sign up for one or both meeting-related mailing lists without
>> registering (or using a "remote participation registration"
>> mechanism, which would be my preference
John,
> In the interest of encouraging remote participation and
> involvement in those BOFs, could these posters be made available
> online before the reception? Will they eventually be
> incorporated into the minutes?
Good questions. We can work on that…
> And, incidentally, is there a way fo
--On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 09:22 +0300 IETF Chair
wrote:
> I wanted to let you know about an experiment we are trying out
> in Berlin.
>...
> But we want as many people as possible to become involved in
> these efforts, or at least provide their feedback during the
> week. So we have given a
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