Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-05 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Understandable. After all, they need to bail out whole countries on a regular basis :) On 7/5/13 1:11 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: "John Levine" > > > what's different in Berlin from Paris and Prague and Maastricht. > > The Germans have more 'zealous' tax collectors? :-) > >

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-05 Thread Tim Chown
On 5 Jul 2013, at 15:30, John C Klensin wrote: > --On Friday, July 05, 2013 07:40 +0100 l.w...@surrey.ac.uk wrote: > >> It strikes me that 'membership fees' as opposed to 'entrance >> fees' could work around this payment issue. Or incur a >> different tax... > > But the use of a term like "memb

RE: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-05 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, July 05, 2013 07:40 +0100 l.w...@surrey.ac.uk wrote: > It strikes me that 'membership fees' as opposed to 'entrance > fees' could work around this payment issue. Or incur a > different tax... But the use of a term like "membership fee" has profound implications for what the IETF cl

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-05 Thread Elwyn Davies
On Fri, 2013-07-05 at 00:11 -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: "John Levine" > > > what's different in Berlin from Paris and Prague and Maastricht. > > The Germans have more 'zealous' tax collectors? :-) > > Noel It appears that the goalposts have been moved - the basic change came

RE: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-04 Thread l.wood
lf Of Martin Rex [m...@sap.com] Sent: 05 July 2013 02:06 To: "Martin J. Dürst" Cc: i...@ietf.org; Barry Leiba; IETF discussion list; IAB; Working Group Chairs Subject: Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended "Martin J. Dürst" wrote: > >On 2013/07/04 9:39, Barry Leiba wrote:

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-04 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: "John Levine" > what's different in Berlin from Paris and Prague and Maastricht. The Germans have more 'zealous' tax collectors? :-) Noel

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-04 Thread David Morris
On Thu, 5 Jul 2013, John Levine wrote: > >It seems that the rules might be somewhat similar all over europe: > > > > http://www.tmf-vat.com/vat/german-vat.html > > You would think so, which leads to the question about what's different > in Berlin from Paris and Prague and Maastricht. Somebod

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-04 Thread John Levine
>It seems that the rules might be somewhat similar all over europe: > > http://www.tmf-vat.com/vat/german-vat.html You would think so, which leads to the question about what's different in Berlin from Paris and Prague and Maastricht. R's, John

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-04 Thread Martin Rex
Martin Rex wrote: > "Martin J. Dürst" wrote: > > > >On 2013/07/04 9:39, Barry Leiba wrote: > >>> Registration for IETF87 in Berlin has been suspended to consider the > >>> impact > >>> of a change in the VAT rules on Registration Fees. We expect registration > >>> to open as soon as this matter

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-04 Thread Martin Rex
"Martin J. Dürst" wrote: > >On 2013/07/04 9:39, Barry Leiba wrote: >>> Registration for IETF87 in Berlin has been suspended to consider the impact >>> of a change in the VAT rules on Registration Fees. We expect registration >>> to open as soon as this matter has been clarified. >> >> I don't und

RE: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-04 Thread Murphy, Sandra
03, 2013 5:31 PM To: IETF Announcement List Cc: i...@ietf.org; i...@iab.org; ietf@ietf.org; wgcha...@ietf.org Subject: IETF 87 Registration Suspended Registration for IETF87 in Berlin has been suspended to consider the impact of a change in the VAT rules on Registration Fees. We expect

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-03 Thread Martin J. Dürst
Hello Barry, On 2013/07/04 9:39, Barry Leiba wrote: Registration for IETF87 in Berlin has been suspended to consider the impact of a change in the VAT rules on Registration Fees. We expect registration to open as soon as this matter has been clarified. I don't understand what the effect of VA

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-03 Thread Barry Leiba
> Registration for IETF87 in Berlin has been suspended to consider the impact > of a change in the VAT rules on Registration Fees. We expect registration > to open as soon as this matter has been clarified. I don't understand what the effect of VAT rules is on money collected in the U.S. in U.S.

IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-03 Thread IETF Administrative Director
Registration for IETF87 in Berlin has been suspended to consider the impact of a change in the VAT rules on Registration Fees. We expect registration to open as soon as this matter has been clarified. Ray IETF Administrative Director