Re: Missing requirement in draft-sparks-genarea-imaparch? (was Re: New Version Notification - draft-sparks-genarea-imaparch-05.txt)

2013-04-02 Thread Burger Eric
Fine with me. On Apr 1, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > On 3/28/13 1:17 PM, SM wrote: >> Hi Eric, >> At 05:13 28-03-2013, Burger Eric wrote: >>> Rather than guessing all of the bad things that could happen, I would offer >>> it would be better to say w

Re: Missing requirement in draft-sparks-genarea-imaparch? (was Re: New Version Notification - draft-sparks-genarea-imaparch-05.txt)

2013-03-28 Thread Burger Eric
Rather than guessing all of the bad things that could happen, I would offer it would be better to say what we mean, like: The IMAP interface MUST NOT provide any IMAP facilities that modify the underlying message and message metadata, such as mailbox, flags, marking for deletion, etc. If

Re: recognition

2013-03-15 Thread Burger Eric
Never say retired: he *is* qualified to be TSV AD. On Mar 15, 2013, at 9:43 AM, Mary Barnes wrote: > Ralph also served as Nomcom chair 2005-2006 and past chair advisor 2006-2007! > > Mary. > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Jari Arkko wrote: >> I wanted to give recognition to someone. As Ra

Re: side meetings and BarBOFs.

2013-03-12 Thread Burger Eric
I think Michael's point is that because a BOF only has two shots, people trying again do NOT go through the open, advertised process and thus end up with closed meetings where people are (almost always INADVERTENTLY) not invited. It would be more open and transparent to have these meetings on th

RE: Meetings in other regions

2006-07-19 Thread Burger, Eric
third tier often have considerably better connectivity than one would expect. -Original Message- From: Dave Crocker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:54 AM To: Burger, Eric Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Meetings in other regions > Let me relate my *EXPERIE

RE: Meetings in other regions

2006-07-18 Thread Burger, Eric
I would offer the following: Rather than look at extremes (e.g., Fred's "What about Kabul?"), let's look at other "second tier" options, like Bangkok, Prague, Cairo (well, maybe off the radar for the next few months), or Mexico City, to pick well-connected, well-airported, rather inexpensive, citi

San Diego (was RE: Meetings in other regions)

2006-07-18 Thread Burger, Eric
I would offer that it is easier for me to get to London, Paris, or Frankfurt from New Hampshire than it is to get to San Diego. LAX is marginally better. Chicago, Boston, New York, Toronto, Atlanta, and Las Vegas (!) are my easy, one-hop cities. That said, it was fun driving to Montreal :-) ---

One ticket for social available

2006-07-11 Thread Burger, Eric
Send me an e-mail directly if you are interested. Like Spenser, for cost ($35 US), for cash US, Canadian is good... ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

RE: 2 hour meetings

2006-06-23 Thread Burger, Eric
What we do in lemonade is both. We schedule two 2-hour meetings. The first is for a review of what work is going on, what issues we are facing, and broad approaches to solving them. The second is a high-bandwidth working group session, much like the dreaded interim. Note that we have also had m

Re: are we willing to do change how we do discussions in IETF? (was: moving from hosts to sponsors)

2006-06-23 Thread Burger, Eric
Standard Time To: Burger, Eric Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject:    Re: are we willing to do change how we do discussions in IETF? (was: moving from hosts to sponsors) On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:18:40 -0400 "Burger, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would offer that in *some*

RE: are we willing to do change how we do discussions in IETF? (was: moving from hosts to sponsors)

2006-06-23 Thread Burger, Eric
I would offer that in *some* groups the running code bar is reasonable. For example, in SIPPING, the problem space is pretty well-defined, and there are third-party specifications and requirements out there. There have been way too many half-baked ideas floated for consideration, and that has suck

RE: Moving from "hosts" to "sponsors"

2006-06-23 Thread Burger, Eric
The bottom line is there has to be a return-on-investment for the sponsors. Microeconomics works, believe me. If we do the socialist thing and try to bend the market (impose a bunch of impossible to follow rules), then we're either not going to get funded or we are not going to be happy with the

RE: Authors and Editors (was Re: RFC Author Count and IPR)

2006-06-23 Thread Burger, Eric
This is exactly what we do in lemonade. We have 1-3 editors, with the possibility of the "cast of thousands" authors (contributors). I would challenge you to find five document that were WRITTEN by more than 3 editors. I offer five, because I am sure that out of ~5000 RFC's, it is statistically

Carpool to Montreal from Southern New Hampshire

2006-06-19 Thread Burger, Eric
Anyone interested in carpooling to Montreal for IETF 66? I will be leaving the Nashua, NH area around 9am on Sunday, 9 July. My route will take me by Dartmouth (US I-293 (Manchester) -> I-93 -> US I-87). I will have room for 5-6 people. Because it is too complicated for me to break it out, Cant

RE: Working Group chartering

2006-01-10 Thread Burger, Eric
COUNTER-example.  Sorry I didn't make the smiley larger.  -Original Message- From:   Harald Tveit Alvestrand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:   Tue Jan 10 18:23:55 2006 To: James M. Polk; Burger, Eric Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject:    RE: Working Group chartering --On ti

RE: Working Group chartering

2006-01-10 Thread Burger, Eric
the IETF. -Original Message- From: Gray, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:03 PM To: Burger, Eric Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: RE: Working Group chartering Eric, --- [SNIP --- --> IMHO, *way* too many I*E*TF work groups get chartered based on --> a

RE: Working Group chartering

2006-01-09 Thread Burger, Eric
IMHO, *way* too many I*E*TF work groups get chartered based on an idea. We then spend tons of resources on figuring out if the idea will work. We produce lots of half-baked documents with little basis in working code. Then folks try implementing what's been spec'ed, find it doesn't work, but then

RE: Announcement: Notifications List

2005-12-22 Thread Burger, Eric
MAY search the entire archives rather easily? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Moore Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 12:36 PM To: Burger, Eric Cc: lemonade@ietf.org; ietf-imapext@imc.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ietf@ietf.org Subject: [le

Announcement: Notifications List

2005-12-20 Thread Burger, Eric
In Vancouver in the lemonade work group meeting a number of people expressed interest in the creation of a list dedicated to the discussion of user notification technology. This list is for discussions relating to the requirements, definition, and directions for message notifications. While many

RE: Why are we so exceptional [was: Translations of standards (was: RE: ASCII art)]

2005-11-30 Thread Burger, Eric
Wouldn't having quasi-authoritative translations *result* in balkanization? The Chinese National Standard series comes immediately to mind of authoritative translations *with interpretations*. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JFC (Jefsey) M