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On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:36 PM, zMan wrote:
> What Charles said. In spades. I knew a vendor who had a product that they
> kept writing binary patches for, because while they had the source code,
> they'd lost the build process (knowle
u, May 8, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Christopher Hodgins <
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>
> I've been answering similar points in the CICS-L mailing list, so I'll
> link you to the full discussion in the archives below. To briefly
> summarise though, the
per contract stipulations.
>
> Lastly, bankruptcy is typically financially oriented. Contract language
> for
> "real" property is handled differently than financial obligations. Again,
> I, unfortunately, learned this first hand. BTW, IMHO, any vendor that is
> wor
You could guess, but I'd recommend you don't. I don't believe it to be
true, no matter what they claim.
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Mitch wrote:
> Mark:
>
> I absolutely agree. And for the likes of the larger ISVs, I would guess
> all of their product source code is in escrow and kept up
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(yeah, yeah, sexist) -- was $1/byte. Obviously that would have changed by
the time it all went solid-state, but does anyone remember whether this was
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> Nobody can help you without details: context, input and output.
>
...except, of course, all the people on the list who already solved his
problem. Hint: read the thread BEFORE answering, you'll look f
Hm, I saw the OP return saying "That solved it, thanks!" -- or was that on
the assembler list only?
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:35 AM, Paul Gilmartin <
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> Hmmm ISTR Qatar being pronounced "Cutter" in recent news reports.
> I've not heard their airline's name pronounced, properly or improperly.
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar, of course, includes pronunciation.
a
> 0.18% probability of containing a valid packed decimal value (taking into
> consideration only the two (2) preferred sign representations).
OK, I'll byte...what are the six? I know of three (C, D, F). Would love a
reference so I can understand this better.
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They missed "Don't use Yahoo" :-)
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>
> Very true..but still I think Yahoo has a responsibility to their customers
>
Absolutely. Though this gets into a related issue: what do free services
"owe" their customers? I'm not satisfied with the
but this is clearly
different, since no human would ever use keys that large!) Or are you
thinking of machine-to-machine interactions, which might indeed use very
long keys (though I don't want to have to deal with them when they
ve you heard from Joe?". Who has people in that category?!
Mind you, if someone got hacked through browser spoofing in an Internet
cafe *while overseas*, it would be a lot more plausible. The fact that this
isn't the normal MO suggests that the much-vaunted browser spoofing isn't
nearly
.
>
Can you elaborate? Why would orderly shutdown not be A Good Thing?
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> Is motor oil not "motor oil" until it's installed in a motor?
> Is cat food not "cat food" until ...?
cf. "baby oil" vs. "whale oil" ... when you get right down to it, English
isn'
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <
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> Was what universally true.
What he quoted, using your precious non-top-posting. Sheesh. If you're
gonna preach it, learn to use it.
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trying to do here? What's the goal? You'll get more help if you explain
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In what way? Under Herc? Sure. Under zPDT? Sure. Under FLEX-ES 64-bit?
Sure. Legal/available? Different answers for the different combinations...
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If only there was a way to search the Web for things like this...
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> There is. It's called GOOGLE :)
Seriously?
/me checks his phone to make sure it isn't 1995.
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On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Richard Pinion wrote:
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Boo hiss.
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Nor does he claim to.
Or were you disagreeing with the "interesting things to contribute"?
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> eliminate what they do not wan
iscussions don't all want to wade
through that. So it's best -- courteous -- to post in appropriate places.
Lynn Wheeler, we know you're out there. Would that you would weigh in here,
explain yourself?
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to get products back into the 370 hardware&software pipelines.
And...he starts off at least responding to the current topic (even though
THAT has wandered far afield), then, as usual, it's off to fantasy-land.
Seriously, Lynn: WTF?
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Bu mesajin muhatabi olmamaniza ragmen tarafiniza
> ulasmis olmasi halinde mesaj iceriginin gizliligi ve bu gizlilik
> yukumlulugune uyulmasi zorunlulugu tarafiniz icin de soz konusudur. Mesaj
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squatter now).
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s. I'm
constantly amazed by the number of long-time z/OS applications folks who
ONLY know COBOL. Given something simple for which Rexx is clearly
appropriate, they'll write a COBOL program.
As for lagging behind, if Tom Ross's promise is correct, maybe it's all
about to become avail
is 1000 pancakes or 1024 depends on who you
ask. And in Quebec, they call them crêpes, so it's "kc", not "kp".
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Would a computer buyer
>
> impute Serta's reputation to an IBM iSeries?
>
Yeah, I know. I remember the Lexis/Lexus lawsuit! But it was still funny.
If I were in marketing at Serta, I'd've first called the line "Advanced
Sleep/400&quo
uit but lost on appeal. Just figured I'd save a few folks
some time.
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uld have happened had IBM used a 370
> instruction set on the PC instead of Intel.
"16MB ought to be enough for anybody"? :-)
Since IBM wasn't manufacturing the chips, of course that wasn't even on the
table, but it's
;
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refer to call the PrOp [...]
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> Hmmm... maybe I'll start using "ProOps"
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Yeah, I learned "PofOp", but I've seen POO, POOP, PoPs, POP, and probably
others.
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so was made gratuitously complicated [in a fashion
> that was without much intellectual interest] by the provincial
> mainframe architectures of the time.
For the record, MVCIN has been around since the 4300s. (Machines, not
4300
Plus it enables a lot of impersonation."?? Huh? How is a webmail account
any more immune to this?
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If that's really the case (not saying you're lying, obviously, just that it
could be chance/perception), then PComm is designed pretty badly: this only
makes any sense if it's doing a DNS lookup repeatedly, which would be dumb.
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vide any reference for the above?
Confusion between UniKix (now Clerity) and Unisys?
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't have to hunt down some ancient Informational APAR. If there is
> some reason IBM "recommends" not applying the affected PTFs, that should be
> handled by some means other retaining the element RMID mismatch.
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ow things work helps you do a better job: rebutting stupid "PCs are
better" arguments, for example. Far too many folks on this list make snide
remarks about squatty boxes--and then ask questions to which the answer is
GIYF.
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in 1972, and I believe that
> it was available on the 360/50.
Congratulations. You're needlessly rude again. Give yourself a prize.
If we're going to be picky, "since the 4300" does not require that it have
been invented for the 4300.
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Plonk.
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manager please; if (s)he wants me to work on
it, in violation of company standards, that's fine. Meanwhile, I'm afraid I
can't help you."
Seems pretty simple...what am I missing?
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On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Paul Peplinski wrote:
> We have 10 of us that can open SRs (along with SIS, AST, and SRD) but only
> one of us has Q&A. We do not have that Enterprise agreement.
Or so you think :-(
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> cycle that cannot continue indefinitely, very similar to a ponzi scheme.
> Unfortunately the z customers that are left are ones that will not, or
> cannot migrate easily to other platforms, so they make a great cash cow to
> milk
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> "RA"? I suspect "
st book "'MVS Performance Management -
> z/OS Version 1" (I've got the OS/390 one thanks to CBT Tape)
>
> I know that he was retired since some years and that his selling web site
> is "out of duty" but is anybody could tell me where and how I could get
to avoid any
> >misunderstanding of this personal action.
>
> IMO there is no need to explain. Feel free to comment or not.
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Having said that, the obvious caveat is, "Unless the list owner wants it
that way". I'd submit that Darren's involvement has been too sporadic to
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>> Maybe you have no hardware :-(
>>
>> Seriously, sounds APARable. Imagine this fun dur
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And the other one is:
Did you hear about the new drink that's taking New York by storm? It's
called a "Sandy" -- it's basically a watered-down Manhattan.
Ba da BING...
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
> Sick I like it..Sandy does Jersey
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That's "Mr. IBM" to you, Regus...
Oh, and the middle name is pronounced "hyphen", not "dash".
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good journalism. I'd much rather have seen more hardware pr0n, or even the
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> Not to be confused with the language "PL/I".
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <
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>> In <056141446420906
the Python programming language. Who on earth is going
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*shrug* not the official name, certainly not current. But you *were*
talking Multics era, so arguably OK.
Hey, I *said* I was being pedantic...
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