Subject: Re: How long for an experiened z/OS sysprog to come up to speed on a new environment?

2023-02-28 Thread billogden
I agree with Shumel and some others. It would be very nice if many panels would somehow display the actual commands they will use or, if that is not workable, perhaps a very short outline of the actions that will be taken. Being rather elderly now (and with failing memory at times) this would be e

Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please [was: RE: ASM call by value]

2023-03-28 Thread billogden
>I myself dislike COBOL for the very simple and personal reason that it's so >WORDY. *** I am not a COBOL programmer, except for some very minor attempts a long time ago. However, I very much respect the proper use of the WORDY aspect. It seems to help with maintenance and updating of large, co

Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please [was: RE: ASM call by value]

2023-03-29 Thread billogden
>The source was unreadable because of the amount and size of copybooks. >When compiled, the listing was so big that it was near impossible to follow. >Needless to say, the variable and paragraph names didn't help too much. >Have you ever tried reading a DMS for CICS (again, 40 years ago) >generat

Re: AI wipes out humanity?

2023-04-13 Thread billogden
>If humans ever get so dependent on AI that they blindly follow the >"advice" of an AI assistant, all it takes is for AI to feed humans a >mis-analysis of a life-threatening situation or potential extinction >event and let the humans do the damage.   Sorry, but I cannot resist an obvious respon

Re: AI wipes out humanity?

2023-04-13 Thread billogden
>I have frequently caught him citing news sources that got the details wrong >- so frequently that I am now in the habit of looking up (for example) >Supreme-Court rulings to see what they actually say rather than what he >said they say. AMEN. News reports SHOULD be valuable, but this has become

Re: IBM-MAIN

2023-05-04 Thread billogden
Thank you for trying to stop the runaway politics. I do spend time looking at a fair amount of history. I have some memories of comments from the 1500s, the 1700s, the 1800s, and the early 1900s all saying (using various terms) that "changes" (aka "progress") should be stopped because "things are

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-04 Thread billogden
Interesting discussion on screen sizes, keyboards, etc. Many of us have various different opinions. My opinions have changed since the early days when some of us (the "older" ones) used 2260s instead of 3270s. I am using a 21" screen at the moment, with three "windows" open on it. I would not want

Subject: Re: [EXT] Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

2023-07-27 Thread billogden
Long ago and far away I helped an IBM customer set up his new 148 VS1 machine to use CICS. At that time it had the macro interface, but as an assembly programmer that was good for me. 3270s were very new at the time and controlling the screen appearance was important. The customer was an Electric

Re: [EXT] Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

2023-07-28 Thread billogden
Comment for Seymour: > By the time the 370/148 came out 3270s were old hat. Not in all parts of the world! >3270-1? Did you mean 3277-1? I never saw one in the flesh, and it was way too small. Sorry, I used the "generic" 3270 instead of the specific "3277". Yes, the model 1 had a very small scre

Re: [EXT] Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

2023-07-29 Thread billogden
>From:Seymour J Metz >Yep, "Model 1 displays 480 characters (12 rows of 40 characters)." >Did you have keyboard issues? My memory of those ancient history days (early 70s) simply fails too much. I seem to remember "something" simple we did with the keyboard, but the details have vanished. (An

Re: Channelized I/O WAS

2023-08-05 Thread billogden
> From Parwez: My mistake, the 370/195 had 2 MB, this customer's 360/75 had 1 MB In those ancient days an MB of memory was $$expensive$$ and fairly rare. In the very early 70s I worked in an installation that had two 360/75s, each with 3 MB (1 MB normal memory and 2 MB LCS). The second 75 was just

Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: Cloud may be overpriced compared to on-premises systems

2023-08-09 Thread billogden
>Concerning the comments on trucks, driving, and the rest of the world. I lived for years in various parts of the world, including Germany (for one year). Driving can be more complex there (such as when driving 100MPH and being "blinked" from behind asking me to get out of the way!) Knew a few truc

Subject: Re: Kinda fun

2023-11-10 Thread billogden
I used 026, 029, and 129 machines. (And the 010 machines; remember those!) Never bothered me, but I agree with the comment that their use (and punched cards in general) encouraged me to be much more careful with my "on paper" programming before starting to punch cards. Dunno how to translate this "

Re: Insecure security - was SDSF PS Command column

2024-02-15 Thread billogden
My trivial comments: 1. Using a password manager seems to be putting all our eggs in one basket. What if that basket fails? Is it secure? Can I always access it? If we need to make a particular password available to a "trusted" friend (at some indefinite time), how should we manage that. 2. I have

Subject: Re: RACF, external password management

2024-03-01 Thread billogden
A simple suggestion: Do not let this project create an even worse situation! More recent z/OS setups (with RACF) can "disable" a userid after "n" password failures. ("n" is often 3.) If your userids are easily found/duplicated, a really bad guy could, with relatively minor Linux/Windows scripts, di

Re: VTOCs vs. catalogs

2024-05-24 Thread billogden
Subject: Re: VTOCs vs. catalogs > I'm curious whether any of you old-timers can explain why we have both VTOCs and catalogs. Please note that you can have datasets with exactly the same name on different volumes, but only one can be cataloged. This was (and might still be) a common practice for sy

Re: VTOCs vs. catalogs

2024-05-25 Thread billogden
> What you described about VSAM is what I heard too, a replacement of the then dominant access methods. > Wow -- I distinctly remember that goal. It really scared many of us (customers and IBMers) and made some of us aware of the gaps between "developers" and "users". KSDS worked well to replace

Re: Try to define a DS8* to a zPDT IODF

2024-09-25 Thread billogden
zPDT was not designed to emulate DS8* functions. The basic emulation (currently) is for simple ESCON 3390s. You might check with your zPDT support channels and discuss whatever functions you are trying to emulate. Bill -- For IBM

Re: ISPF Edit - how to switch off CAPS ON?

2024-12-06 Thread billogden
Re: ISPF Edit - how to switch off CAPS ON? Being an old, old, old assembly programmer, I still write the actual code in upper case. However, more recently (a few decades perhaps) I started using mixed case for comments. Is it "needed"? Perhaps not, but I think it makes the comments more readable -

Re: ISPF Edit - how to switch off CAPS ON

2024-12-07 Thread billogden
My previous comment about "more recently (a few decades perhaps)" seems to have triggered some thoughts among various responders. I can definitely say that any programming I accomplished that involved using a keypunch for input does not qualify as "recent"! (My "older" experience (1620, 1410, 7040,

Re: z/OS message code length

2024-12-20 Thread billogden
> I thought there was a standard... (perhaps 40 years ago) > First 3 letters = allocated to the product. Starting with A to H is for > IBM products > 4th letter component within product > 5...n-1 message number > Last message type I,W,E,A,T >Colin Like surprisingly many of us, I distinctly rem

Re: history and evolution of INFO/MVS, INFO/VM-VSE etc.

2025-01-13 Thread billogden
I replied directly to Mark Waterbury, but there seems to be slightly more interest in this topic. I was the original author (the "O" in OZS) but it was a long time ago, before all the modern databases/forums/newsgroups/networks existed. I believe it helped set the mindset for much later work. Bill

Re: REXX Outtrap Secret

2025-01-17 Thread billogden
>The key is for those who RTFM - which sadly is rarely the case. > >> I last read the pubs many years ago when it was hardcopy - with >> softcopy I typically read sections instead of cover to cover - another >> failing of online pubs. Having been involved with many publications over the years and

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 18 Mar 2025 to 19 Mar 2025 (#2025-76)

2025-03-20 Thread billogden
>For compiler listings and actual assembler listings, and assembler inlines, >and for interfacing with >z/OS via its macro interfaces, PL/X has always had a huge advantage over >C/C++. AMEN For someone working on important, complex, long-term (decades) applications, it might appear that C/C+

Re: Links for ESS manuals

2025-03-17 Thread billogden
> I have found google to be useless for locating old IBM manuals. While it is not exactly relevant to IBM-MAIN topics, I seem to see recent google results as having considerably less "accuracy" than in earlier days and considerably more "advertising" or "marketing" orientation. I find I am using i