Re: What is "Mapped-I/O-addressing facility" in z16?

2023-04-16 Thread David L. Craig
On 23Apr16:1542+, Farley, Peter wrote: > A question out of pure curiosity: In the z16 version of PoOP (SA22-7832-13) > there is mention in the "Summary of Changes in Fourteenth Edition" section of > this enhancement: > > Mapped-I/O-addressing facility [PCI ONLY] > > I can find no other ref

Re: What is "Mapped-I/O-addressing facility" in z16?

2023-04-16 Thread David L. Craig
On 23Apr16:1717+, David L. Craig wrote: > On 23Apr16:1542+, Farley, Peter wrote: > > > A question out of pure curiosity: In the z16 version of PoOP (SA22-7832-13) > > there is mention in the "Summary of Changes in Fourteenth Edition" section > > of thi

Re: "XYZZY"?

2023-08-27 Thread David L. Craig
On 23Aug27:0159-0400, David Cole wrote: > For 50 years, I've always used the five syllable pronunciation. The only way I could ever get it to work was to spell it out, so I've always pronounced it ex-why-zee-zee-why. Plugh also had to be spelled out, but it's pronunciation was much less enigmatic

Re: Assembler access to USS functions

2023-10-05 Thread David L. Craig
On 23Oct05:0616-0400, David Cole wrote: > To all of you who responded to my query, I thank you. > > Unfortunately (well, fortunately actually) I'm on the verge of leaving for > vacation for the month (Viking cruise, Istanbul to Venice), so I won't get a > chance to go over everything until Novemb

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-11 Thread David L. Craig
On 23Oct11:0924-0400, Rick Troth wrote: > The web burst onto the scene. Thankfully HTTP and HTML have tagging > capabilities, so for most consumers ... well ... they have no idea the work > the techies have gone thru. And to think IBM's C-suite thought it was a good idea in the early '80s to get

Re: Kinda fun

2023-11-10 Thread David L. Craig
On 23Nov08:1703+, Schmitt, Michael wrote: > Are we violating the "no reminiscing" rule? No, we're providing historical data for the young'uns. > > What's the latest that people still used punched cards and/or paper tape? In the 21st Century, I encountered an IOCP deck for a 3081 at a shop t

Re: Startio documentation

2020-02-09 Thread David L. Craig
On 20Feb09:0011+, Christopher Y. Blaicher wrote: > Having done all of this, I would suggest that you start with EXCP and then > progress to EXPC/VR. Even with EXCP you have to know and understand the > relationship of the CCW's you are going to use. Read carefully. Start > simple. Build

New Spectre Vunerability

2021-05-02 Thread David L. Craig
https://engineering.virginia.edu/news/2021/04/defenseless doesn't mention if zArchitecture is immune, but I suspect it is not. Does anybody know for sure? -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave_Craig__ "So the universe is not quite

Re: "xkcd" on doing a code quality review.

2017-05-05 Thread David L. Craig
On 17May05:1241-0400, Steve Smith wrote: > In case you missed 1 & 2: > https://xkcd.com/1513/ > https://xkcd.com/1695/ - my favorite You've got to admit the concept of using different crying emoji for variable names is stunning, though. -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dav

Re: Hitachi to Deliver New Mainframe Based on IBM z Systems in Japan

2017-05-25 Thread David L. Craig
On 17May25:0822-0700, Phil Smith wrote: > A friend suggests: > >Look for a new model coming soon from their US arm, Hitachi America Ltd, the > >9000. Think about it. HINO--we're talking about a platform not noted for pushing the AI envelope. Of course, Watson might see the humor and start pushi

Re: Hitachi to Deliver New Mainframe Based on IBM z Systems in Japan

2017-05-25 Thread David L. Craig
On 17May25:1749+, David L. Craig wrote: > On 17May25:0822-0700, Phil Smith wrote: > > > A friend suggests: > > >Look for a new model coming soon from their US arm, Hitachi America Ltd, > > >the 9000. Think about it. > > HINO--we're talking about

Re: Hitachi to Deliver New Mainframe Based on IBM z Systems in Japan

2017-05-25 Thread David L. Craig
On 17May25:1806+, David L. Craig wrote: > On 17May25:1749+0000, David L. Craig wrote: > > On 17May25:0822-0700, Phil Smith wrote: > > > > > A friend suggests: > > > >Look for a new model coming soon from their US arm, Hitachi America Ltd, > > > &g

Re: Looks like lots of folks in marketing said thanks but no thanks

2017-05-30 Thread David L. Craig
On 17May29:2346-0400, Gabe Goldberg wrote: > It's amazing what technology can do: > http://ericwhitacre.com/the-virtual-choir > > https://www.ted.com/talks/eric_whitacre_a_virtual_choir_2_000_voices_strong > > ...not symphony, but still remote collaboration. > > Timothy Sipples quoted > > Ste

Re: Looks like lots of folks in marketing said thanks but no thanks

2017-05-30 Thread David L. Craig
On 17May30:1027-0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > > > Interesting pre-pre-pre-Friday topic. I take SR's prohibition of > superluminal communication as absolute. But can a choir be > synchronized without transmitting information from one member > to another? This seems to reflect the assumption for

Re: Looks like lots of folks in marketing said thanks but no thanks

2017-05-31 Thread David L. Craig
On 17May31:1259+0800, Timothy Sipples wrote: > In some cases more than two parts are possible: A and B1, B2, B3, etc. When > there are more than two parts the broadcast equipment needs to add > location-specific delays to each of the feeds before transmission in order > to synchronize them properl

Re: IBM z14

2017-07-17 Thread David L. Craig
On 17Jul17:0205-0500, Parwez Hamid wrote: > https://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/52805.wss This is a golden opportunity, IBM. Please don't blow it. This will require better than usual marketing. Prove to us there are no backdoors and that decrypted data cannot be exfiltrated by SEs a

Re: IBM z14

2017-07-17 Thread David L. Craig
On 17Jul17:1306-0700, Phil Smith wrote: > David L. Craig wrote: > >This is a golden opportunity, IBM. Please don't blow it. > >This will require better than usual marketing. Prove to us > >there are no backdoors and that decrypted data cannot be > >exfil

Re: security and privacy for the 21st century

2024-03-22 Thread David L. Craig
On 24Mar22:1105-0400, Rick Troth wrote: > Why don't we teach the kids basic LOGIC in school?? Well, it seems math in general is being learned much less well than decades ago in the USA. Maybe the solution is a gottah-beat-it math/logic skills-based computer game. May the LORD God bless you exc

Re: security and privacy for the 21st century

2024-03-22 Thread David L. Craig
On 24Mar22:1105-0400, Rick Troth wrote: > And it's not like it can't go away. One place to start could be enable lists like this to accept mail signatures. May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave_Craig__ "So the universe is not quite

Re: World’s largest computer outage!

2024-07-19 Thread David L. Craig
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 12:48 AM Joe Monk < 05971158733e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > [snip] > "Script Kiddies" is industry slang for kids who write viruses and then > attempt to deploy them. Not all of them are malicious, but nevertheless > they are PUPs (potentially unwated progra

Re: World’s largest computer outage!

2024-07-23 Thread David L. Craig
On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 9:54 PM Leonard D Woren wrote: > This comes down to a problem with making sufficient resources > available to developers and testers. My sandbox system is a 4-way > sysplex under VM. There was an issue which looked like a bug but > turned out to be an early design short

Re: IBM bkserv website donw or gone?

2015-11-18 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Nov18:1220-0500, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: > Yes, I see that as well. Missed it before. Thanks for pointing it out. > > Hey IBM, why aren't these pages on a super-reliable z/OS system? > Shoemaker's children, I guess. Management probably determined that is too expensive. ;-) -- May t

Re: IBM bkserv website donw or gone?

2015-11-18 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Nov18:0951-0800, Tom Brennan wrote: > Do I sense mainframe bigots here?? :) Oh, I certainly hope not. This is more about a fine sense of irony. We all wish the mainframe sales team had been far more successful the last couple of decades. -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundant

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-21 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Nov21:0528-0500, STEVEN DAHARI wrote: > What is to be done with the z890 that can not be > more easily done with an Intel based machine? Studying how the zSeries architecture works and how to work with it is the obvious task where the Intel machine is inadequate. No simulation is perfect. T

Re: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?

2015-11-30 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Nov30:1354-0600, Ed Gould wrote: > On Nov 30, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > > >Charles Mills wrote: > >--SNIP > >>Shipping the source is utterly out of the question, > > > >Of course, you have to be crazy if you

Re: AW: Re: You thought IEFBR14 was bad? Try GNU's /bin/true code

2016-02-10 Thread David L. Craig
On 16Feb10:1926+0100, Peter Hunkeler wrote: > > > IEFBR14 is not a TSO command. > > Really? I learn something new every day, that's great :-) Indeed, it was written before there was a Time Sharing Option (possibly even imagined). And it was APARed. Twice, I believe. -- May the LORD God bless

Re: AW: Re: You thought IEFBR14 was bad? Try GNU's /bin/true code

2016-02-10 Thread David L. Craig
On 16Feb10:1517-0600, Ed Gould wrote: > Well thats true but what does selling and trying to get people to believe in > a unprovable being(if there is such a descriptive word) have to do with the > thread? The same as any other signature has to do with any thread? -- May the LORD God bless you e

Re: AW: Re: You thought IEFBR14 was bad? Try GNU's /bin/true code

2016-02-10 Thread David L. Craig
On 16Feb10:2043-0800, Steve Beaver wrote: > The simplest code for a Br14 is > > LA R15,0 > BR 14 > > It is a 2 instruction program that is as simple as it gets No, the original was even simpler: just the BC 15,14 instruction. Fortunately, its behavior was APAR

Re: AW: Re: You thought IEFBR14 was bad? Try GNU's /bin/true code

2016-02-11 Thread David L. Craig
On 16Feb11:0945-0600, Mike Schwab wrote: > >From A22-6821-0 S/360 Principle of Operations: > > CONDITION CODE SETTINGS FOR FIXED-POINT ARITHMETIC > x'00', x'01', x'10', x'11' > 0 (equal) 1 (<0) 2 (>0) 3 (error, overflow) Does anyone else (Google doesn't) remember the ELHO acronym? Equal- ma

Re: Query: Will modern z/OS and z/VM classes suffice for MVS and VM/370

2016-02-15 Thread David L. Craig
On 16Feb15:1842-0800, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > vast majority of 4341s were shipped with FBA disks ... you would need > some sort of CKD disks in order to bring up MVS. > > huge percentage of 4341s went out into departmental areas with 3370 FBA > disks, sort of leading edge of distributed comp

Re: Introducing the New z13s: Tim's Hardware Highlights

2016-02-19 Thread David L. Craig
On 16Feb19:0411-0500, Aled Hughes wrote: > Just to be the awkward one here: the use of 's for > plural is grammatically incorrect, personally I don't > care if it is universally accepted - it is wrong and > should be avoided. It is on a par with the misuse > of examples such as 'their' when meanin

Re: IBMMAIN bounces and related issues

2016-02-22 Thread David L. Craig
On 16Feb22:0100-0600, Darren Evans-Young wrote: > Define quality. "Conformance to requirements" --Harold S. Geneen -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave_Craig__ "So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. You'd better

Re: Introducing the New z13s: Tim's Hardware Highlights

2016-02-24 Thread David L. Craig
On 16Feb24:2100-0500, zMan wrote: > > I remember $1/byte back in the 360 era. Amazing times. Even more amazing: according to the https://www.minneapolisfed.org/ inflation calculator, that equates to about $7/byte in today's dollar's purchasing power. -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly ab

Re: CeBIT and mainframes

2016-03-19 Thread David L. Craig
On 16Mar17:1037-0500, Joel C. Ewing wrote: > I notice they also claim > "no need for recompilation of Cobol or PL/1 application programmes, no > source code changes, or changes to operational procedures". > > So they have somehow managed to replicate the functional behavior of all > the SVC and P

Re: Linux

2016-03-27 Thread David L. Craig
On 16Mar26:1059-0500, Steve Beaver wrote: > First of all I am first and foremost an zOS Systems programmer that only > writes in HLASM and REXX as needed. > > My goal is to learn Linux and then develop in Linux and then as needed port > it to zSeries box. That being said, > > - I am going

Re: Linux

2016-03-29 Thread David L. Craig
On 16Mar28:2239-0500, Tom Marchant wrote: > On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 10:35:44 -0400, Rick Troth wrote: > > >On 03/26/16 14:45, Tom Marchant wrote: > >> First of all, it is GNU/Linux. > >> That is, it is the GNU operating system with a Linux kernel. > >> See http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html >

Re: COBOL Cowboys

2018-10-04 Thread David L. Craig
On 18Oct04:2011+, Rugen, Len wrote: > Wow, a 360/91 > https://images.techhive.com/images/idge/imported/article/itw/2014/04/04/ibm-360-600x450-100520215-orig.jpg NASA Goddard had one in Building 1. I believe many IBM media shots were taken there. -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly a

Re: Intel Chip flaw

2018-01-04 Thread David L. Craig
On 18Jan04:1030-0600, Tom Marchant wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 04:11:22 -0600, Cannaerts, Jan wrote: > > >This article: > >https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.be/2018/01/reading-privileged-memory-with-side.html > > > >Mentions the following: > > > >> Additional exploits for other architectures ar

Re: Intel Chip flaw

2018-01-04 Thread David L. Craig
On 18Jan04:1603-0600, Dana Mitchell wrote: > I assume IBM will soon patch any Intel based HMC's and SE's. Why? Theoretically nothing can get in there to attempt any mischief. -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave_Craig__ "So the

Re: Intel Chip flaw

2018-01-04 Thread David L. Craig
On 18Jan04:1432-0800, Charles Mills wrote: > On 18Jan04:1406-0500, David L. Craig wrote: > > > On 18Jan04:1603-0600, Dana Mitchell wrote: > > > > > I assume IBM will soon patch any Intel based HMC's and SE's. > > > > Why? Theoretically

Re: XKCD's take on Meltdown.

2018-01-08 Thread David L. Craig
On 18Jan08:0921-0600, John McKown wrote: > https://xkcd.com/1938/ Regular hammers have their utility. -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave_Craig__ "So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. You'd better rearrange your

Re: A true discussion in today's world (at least here)

2016-11-24 Thread David L. Craig
On 16Nov23:1420-0500, Tony Harminc wrote: > > The analogy is cute, but I think it fails The problem is that in some > circumstances that's a perfectly reasonable way to manage a car. > Depending on the age, how much you depend on it, whether you ever > drive a significant distance from home, etc.

Re: LOOKAT gone? - Compiler incest

2016-12-04 Thread David L. Craig
On 16Dec04:1431-0500, Gabe Goldberg wrote: > David Cole noted: > > In contrast, a compiler coded in its own language tends to be much > > better, user friendly in features, than a compiler coded in any other > language. > > Interesting observation. It's certainly true of the Micro Focus COBOL

Re: And the future is...

2017-01-19 Thread David L. Craig
On 17Jan19:1706+, Blake, Daniel J [CTR] wrote: > > > Check out http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1OA12282 > > Make sure you scroll down to Users Affected section. Is that a Statement of Direction? ;-) -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave_Craig__

Re: IFL z/VM

2014-01-28 Thread David L. Craig
On 14Jan28:1142-0700, Mark Post wrote: > The U.S. Postal Service migrated a good part of > their CICS workload to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server > on System z, running on an IFL. I'm not familiar with > all the technical details of how it was done, but Mark > Neft of Accenture has presented on the

Re: Checking to see if IBM-MAIN is still alive

2014-01-29 Thread David L. Craig
On 14Jan29:1702+0800, David Crayford wrote: > On 29/01/2014 4:49 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > >Ed Gould wrote: > > > >Indeed. IBM-MAIN is alive. Oh, BTW, I have risked sending some precious > >electrons to you to tell that! ;-D > > Yes, and probably the same carbon footprint it would take to

Re: OT: Entry Level System Programmer Job Description

2014-01-30 Thread David L. Craig
The least knowledgable sysprog should know ops better than the best operator, IMHO, even if he's not in the call rotation yet. -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave_Craig__ "So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. You'

Re: OT: Entry Level System Programmer Job Description

2014-01-31 Thread David L. Craig
On 14Jan31:1525-0800, Skip Robinson wrote: > Is there some other occupation or avocation that mimics what we do? Medical doctors. -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave_Craig__ "So the universe is not quite as you thought it was.

Re: Support is ending for Windows XP - Microsoft Windows

2014-03-26 Thread David L. Craig
On 14Mar26:1105-0500, Dan Skomsky wrote: > A little OS/2 experience with IBM Marketing... Back in '94-'95 we spent > over $500K to port a major Public Safety system from CICS MVS to CICS OS/2. > The port was very successful. But, when we went into a major presentation > to demonstrate our offeri

Re: Support is ending for Windows XP - Microsoft Windows

2014-03-26 Thread David L. Craig
On 14Mar26:1700+, Shiminsky, Gary wrote: > Many developers who had used OS/2 offered to rewrite any non-IBM code that > was in OS/2 so IBM could at least release it as open source. > > IBM declined. Without knowledge of the Ts and Cs in the pertinent contracts between Microsoft and IBM regar

Re: Sorry state of IT education?

2014-04-22 Thread David L. Craig
On 14Apr22:2243+, DASDBILL2 wrote: > “[Television programming is a] vast wasteland…” > [09 MAY 1961; speech to the National Association of > Broadcasters by Newton Minow, Chairman of the > Federal Communications Commission] Mr. Minow would likely be at a loss for words if he had been able to

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-10 Thread David L. Craig
On 14May09:0635-0500, John McKown wrote: > > Say! Here's a neat sleep-deprived idea: In the above scenario, keep the > offsite repository in the NSA ultra-center in Utah! This would require a > "commercial" aspect to the NSA. But they're going to intercept and store > the information any way if it

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-10 Thread David L. Craig
On 14May10:1036-0400, David L. Craig wrote: > > The Chinese would appreciate the one-stop shopping for its ISV > industrial espionage, certainly. Actually, the Federal government already has such a facility under DNA.probably. This might be an opportunity to set up a nasty hone

Re: Costs of core

2014-05-29 Thread David L. Craig
On 14May29:1904+, Ken Porowski wrote: > http://www.jcmit.com/memoryprice.htm > > 1960 $5,242,880/M IBM 1401 core memory > 1965 $2,642,412/M IBM 360/30 core memory > 1970 $734,003/M IBM 370/135 core memory The handy inflation calculator at the Minneapolis Fede

Re: Costs of core

2014-05-29 Thread David L. Craig
On 14May29:2005-0400, David L. Craig wrote: > On 14May29:1904+, Ken Porowski wrote: > > > http://www.jcmit.com/memoryprice.htm > > > > 1960 $5,242,880/M IBM 1401 core memory > > 1965 $2,642,412/M IBM 360/30 core memory > > 1970

Re: Costs of core

2014-05-29 Thread David L. Craig
On 14May29:2104-0400, David L. Craig wrote: > On 14May29:2005-0400, David L. Craig wrote: > > > On 14May29:1904+, Ken Porowski wrote: > > > > > http://www.jcmit.com/memoryprice.htm > > > > > > 1960 $5,242,880/M IBM 1401 core memory

Re: Costs of core

2014-06-02 Thread David L. Craig
On 14Jun02:1049-0400, John Eells wrote: > Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > > >However, MVS system > >tended to require 10-30 people for care&feeding ... which scaled poorly > >to hundreds of distributed departmental computers (IPL and run with > >little or no human intervention). > > It's certainly

Re: More on the Bash Security Vulnerability: CVE-2014-6271 & CVE-2014-7169

2014-10-01 Thread David L. Craig
On 14Oct01:1627+0200, R.S. wrote: > > HMC is good example of such device. You don't install > anything on that, you don't connect it to the Internet > just like PC, the connection to IBM support system > is quite different thing. While it's good to fix any > vulnerability if possible, I wouldn't

Re: More on the Bash Security Vulnerability: CVE-2014-6271 & CVE-2014-7169

2014-10-01 Thread David L. Craig
On 14Oct01:1705+0200, R.S. wrote: > Important: we are not talking about any possible > vulnerability, we are talking about THIS vulnerability. I did not understand your comment to be so limited. Frankly I would be stupified to learn bash is installed in any HMC and that would alarm me exceedingly

Re: More on the Bash Security Vulnerability: CVE-2014-6271 & CVE-2014-7169

2014-10-01 Thread David L. Craig
On 14Oct01:1241-0500, John McKown wrote: > > Well, some of the HMC's are Linux based on what is basically a > standard Intel PC. Most Linux systems have BASH installed. So it might > not actually surprise me to find it on the disk, if I were to remove > it and put it in another PC. > Now, being ab

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-24 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Sep23:2156-0400, John Gilmore wrote: > The first time I encountered something like this phrase, circa 1950, > it took the form of > > Don't get into a pissing match with a skunk! > > I suspect that the phrase and its variants have multiple etymologies, > with much semantic cross contaminati

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-24 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Sep24:0729-0400, John Gilmore wrote: > David, > > No. I in fact regret the lingering influence of 17th-century > puritanism on English usage. In, say, Italian the cognate verb, > pisciare, has always been usable even in what used to be called polite > society. Preoccupation with avoiding

Re: OT - Huge Maple Syrup heist solved.

2013-09-29 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Sep29:1242+, Chris Hoelscher wrote: > Could this be another reason not to run SAP ? Maybe, but certainly reviewing SAP security is indicated. -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave_Craig__ "So the universe is not quite as

Re: shark fin

2013-10-14 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Oct14:1239-0400, Gerhard Postpischil wrote: > Guilty as charged. I got mine from Dr. Robert Rannie, at a SHARE > paddle project session. Indeed. I am looking at mine again, hanging from my Share 53 badge with the ASCII-art Paddle Project label affixed thereto and the Statue of Liberty "I <3

Re: IBM now employs more workers in India than US

2013-10-17 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Oct17:1203+, esst...@juno.com wrote: > Robert Hagne wrote: > >IBM is not doing business to raise the economy of > >poor >countries . But they should also know that , > >they get only what they >pay for . You make more profit > >by paying less ,but at the >xpense of service quality . > >

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-07 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Nov07:1701+, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > >grep stands for General Regular Expression > > I had always thought it was: > Get Regular Expression and Print No, it means global, the ed command followed by a regular expression and a command to perform upon the set of lines matched by said regex; e.

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-01 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Dec01:1758-0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > In <0905701904337885.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on > 11/30/2013 >at 08:52 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: > > >Is the limit HLQ or TSO prefix? > > TSO limits the prefix to 7; for an explicit FQDSN it accepts an > 8-character HLQ

Re: "hexadecimal"?

2013-12-08 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Dec08:0942-0800, Charles Mills wrote: > It is a pet peeve of mine. People use "hex" sloppily > to mean "binary" (what I think IBM means in your > example) or "non-printable" ("does it look like a DD > name?" "Nyah, it's a bunch of hex."). > > Hex is not a kind of data. It is a convenient way

Re: "hexadecimal"?

2013-12-08 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Dec08:1352-0500, Scott Ford wrote: > Huh .maybe you should back to computer basics > ...at machine level everything is binary > > Scott ford > www.identityforge.com > from my IPAD You, sir, are the one who needs to go back--specifically to zPOPs page 9-3: : Hexadecimal-Floating-Point (

Re: "hexadecimal"?

2013-12-08 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Dec08:1428-0500, Scott Ford wrote: > What do circuits work in ... Sigh... I suggest you discuss it with Gene Amdahl, not me. -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave_Craig__ "So the universe is not quite as you thought

Re: "hexadecimal"?

2013-12-08 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Dec08:0942-0800, Charles Mills wrote: > Hex is not a kind of data. It is a convenient way of > representing data. X'F1' is a clearer image in most > cases than 0001 or 241. All data is potentially > hex; that is, is representable in hex. That's the > beauty of hex. This is the paragraph

Re: "hexadecimal"?

2013-12-08 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Dec08:1647-0500, Scott Ford wrote: > > On Dec 8, 2013, at 4:39 PM, John Gilmore wrote: > > > > The system/360 and its mainframe successors are largely binary > > machines. In particular, addressing is entirely binary. They can, > > however, do both decimal and hexadecimal arithmetic in so

Re: "hexadecimal"?

2013-12-08 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Dec08:1449-0800, Scott Ford wrote: > I don't know what your profession is , but in 40+ > yrs and about 20+ shops, many in the NYC area and very > very aggressive with their applications, including > z/OS, VM and VSE , I never ever had to worry about it > ..Give me an example of such  a concer

Re: "hexadecimal"?

2013-12-08 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Dec08:1717-0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Sun, 8 Dec 2013 18:01:01 -0500, David L. Craig wrote: > > > >Boolean algebra is a mathematics based upon variables > >that can take on only two possible values. IIRC, the > >Soviets were rumored to have probed the att

Re: "hexadecimal"?

2013-12-09 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Dec09:1528-0500, Gerhard Postpischil wrote: > On 12/9/2013 2:56 PM, Skip Robinson wrote: > > 2) That's a shame. Every programmer can benefit from familiarity > with the hardware - write a test program using EXCP to read a > multi-volume tape, or use XDAP to read a multi-volume DASD data set

Re: COBOL IN SRB Mode (Was Un-authorized caller)

2013-12-11 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Dec11:1225-0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: > Why would *anyone* want to run traditional CICS COBOL in the > restricted environment of an SRB? The TCB environment is so much > more robust! > > If the SRB is an Enclave SRB enabled for redirection to zIIP, then > IMHO such use of the "zIIP enablement AP

Re: COBOL IN SRB Mode (Was Un-authorized caller)

2013-12-11 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Dec11:1831-0500, Scott Ford wrote: > Amen on that one David. I am in that swamp right > now with a single thread legacy beast in Cobol.. Imagine you're watching The Big Bang Theory or The IT Crowd and during a commercial you're not really paying attention to you hear, "Is writing a COBOL pro

Re: "hexadecimal"?

2013-12-22 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Dec21:2313-0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > In <20131210023525.GC6157@dlc-dt>, on 12/09/2013 >at 09:35 PM, "David L. Craig" said: > > >Of course, "real" MVS programmers use STARTIO > > Real MVS systems programmers understand the

Re: SHARE Video

2015-03-10 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Mar09:2144-0700, Charles Mills wrote: > On 15Mar09:2054-, Ed Gould wrote: >> >> Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I shared it with co-workers who promptly >> showed it to the boss and the boss came over to me and said if they have >> that kind of Money to throw away looks like SHARE is

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-26 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Mar26:0928-0500, Norbert Friemel wrote: > > S/360 Model 91 > > Higher resolutions @ > https://www.flickr.com/photos/epitti/2371701458/sizes/l/in/photostream/ > https://www.flickr.com/photos/epitti/2370869637/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Inquiring minds want to know: where's the Emergency Pull?

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-27 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Mar27:1223-0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > But did anyone ever figure out, what OS? TPF, perhaps? The plaque said it's from the Goddard Space Flight Center, which was in building 3/14 and under the Flight Dynamics Directorate, running OS/MVT/ASP IIRC. I had nothing to do with it but I'd seen

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-28 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Mar27:1741-0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > In <20150327175138.GA3765@dlc-dt>, on 03/27/2015 >at 01:51 PM, "David L. Craig" said: > > >The plaque said it's from the Goddard Space Flight Center, which > >was in building 3/14 and unde

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-29 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Mar29:1453-0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > I still haven't seen a plausible answer; not even a guess. > The only one tendered, "OS/MVT/ASP" strikes me as absolutely > incredible. Sheesh. I've sent an email to one of the primary sysprogs-- hopefully he'll speak definitively on this matter. --

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-29 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Mar29:1638-0400, David L. Craig wrote: > On 15Mar29:1453-0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > > > I still haven't seen a plausible answer; not even a guess. > > The only one tendered, "OS/MVT/ASP" strikes me as absolutely > > incredible. > > Shee

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-29 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Mar29:1453-0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > I still haven't seen a plausible answer; not even a guess. > The only one tendered, > "OS/MVT/ASP" strikes me as > absolutely incredible. >From http://voyager.gsfc.nasa.gov/Library/isee-3_book8.pdf In the first paragraph of the Abstract: "This docume

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-29 Thread David L. Craig
This IBM page has solid tech notes and includes an enlargable photo of that same console early in its deployment. Maybe Nancy can name some of those folks for posterity. https://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_PP2091.html -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundan

Re: OT: Digital? Cloud? Modern And Cost-Effective? Surprise! It's The Mainframe - Forbes

2015-03-30 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Mar29:1833-0400, David L. Craig wrote: > It's interesting to see how it's been marked up to note the > differences since the application was migrated to the 3081 > running MVS. "Nancy" is "Nancy L. Palm" who is the sysprog > I'm trying to trac

Re: Auditing vendor source code

2013-06-19 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Jun19:0608-0700, Phil Smith wrote: > This is an interesting dilemma. FWIW, in almost 30 > years as a vendor, I've never had anyone ask to see > source code for security reasons. That doesn't mean > it won't happen tomorrow, of course. > > I suspect that the general attitude is a synthesis >

Re: z/OS Configuration for Security - Not RACF or other ESM

2013-07-02 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Jul02:2326-0400, Rob Schramm wrote: > > Not sure about the "church lady" reference. Ye old brain is a bit dull > today. > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > > > On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 17:33:52 -0400, Rob Schramm wrote: > > > > >If you are feeling the need for extra paran

Re: z/OS Configuration for Security - Not RACF or other ESM

2013-07-02 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Jul02:2324-0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 23:26:57 -0400, Rob Schramm wrote: > > > >Not sure about the "church lady" reference. Ye old brain is a bit dull > >today. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_Administrator_Tool_for_Analyzing_Networks https://en.wik

Re: announcement of the zBC12

2013-07-23 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Jul23:1317-0700, Phil Smith wrote: > Martin Truebner wrote: > >anyone able to attend? > > I was on for 30 minutes; content-free to that > point. I hadn't counted on them FORCING me to use a > PC, was planning to listen while driving to another > meeting. But since there WAS no content to tha

Re: Is there a "reverse bits" hardware instruction?

2013-07-24 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Jul24:1022+0800, David Crayford wrote: > It's easy to do on X86 or ARM architectures which have instructions > for scanning, counting and reversing bits > https://github.com/facebook/hiphop-php/blob/master/hphp/util/bitops.h. > Now I'm interested in what is the most efficient way to do this o

Re: Video that might give you a chuckle

2016-05-26 Thread David L. Craig
On 16May26:1154+, van der Grijn, Bart (B) wrote: > It's an interesting observation as I always chuckle > when my American coworkers say parmlibe, Here lib does not rhyme with glib, but with tribe and is understood to be short for library. How do you pronouce the full word? -- May the LORD

Re: Term "Open Systems" (as Sometimes Currently Used) is Dead -- Who's with Me?

2015-09-14 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Sep14:1712-0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:28:54 +0800, Timothy Sipples wrote: > > > >(a) The Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI). UEFI features > >something called "Secure Boot." To summarize, even open source operating > >systems must be cryptographically signe

Re: Term "Open Systems" (as Sometimes Currently Used) is Dead -- Who's with Me?

2015-09-14 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Sep14:1712-0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > So where does this leave Linux for the x86 platform? Is Microsoft trying > to kill Linux? The FTC should have much to say about that, perhaps > prodded by such as Google. > > Of course, I understand Google makes its own hardware (or contracts > it t

Re: Having the mainframe on YouTube

2015-10-01 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Oct01:0945-0600, Mark Post wrote: > And just as an aside, I'm intrigued that at least > one other person besides myself and John McKown knows > about and understands the concept and is willing to > espouse it. (I actually am more of an Open Source > person than Free Software, but that's not

Re: Having the mainframe on YouTube

2015-10-01 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Oct01:1618+, David L. Craig wrote: > On 15Oct01:0945-0600, Mark Post wrote: > > > And just as an aside, I'm intrigued that at least > > one other person besides myself and John McKown knows > > about and understands the concept and is willing to > >

Re: Junk your IT. Now. Before it drags you under

2015-10-15 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Oct14:2332-0500, Ed Gould wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/15/junk_your_it_now_before_it_drags_you_under/ > > Legacy systems tie you to unproductive legacy thinking and lead to > stagnation. > > Really? You didn't read the comments--picture a piranha feeding frenzy. Every once

Re: IBM

2015-10-19 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Oct16:1752+, Lance D. Jackson wrote: > This is disturbing: > http://www.wsj.com/articles/ibm-allows-chinese-government-to-review-source-code-1444989039 If your only concern is IP misappropriation, I understand your concern. My concern is the possibility of backdoors in appliances like t

Re: IRS - 60-Year-Old IT System Failed on Tax Day Due to New Hardware (nextgov.com)

2018-04-20 Thread David L. Craig
In 1974, we considered it, but the cost of a byte of disk storage was enough to push the storage of each date's century toward the '90s. We fully expected the remediation would be needed but storage would be more affordable by then, which panned out. What everybody got wrong was expecting the rel

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