Has anyone successfully implemented ISPF edit macros as compiled rexx? The
problem is that the macro is invoked using ISOF select service, and it
seems that the Rexx compiler does not support it.
If I use CPPLEFPL as a STUG, the program abends. Other STUBS does not
abend, but the ISREDIT commands r
Instead of giving a library, use TEST *(module)?
For example,
test *(ISPF) cp
ispf
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Just saw that thanks
Joe Reichman
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 3:58 PM Schmitt, Michael
wrote:
> Instead of giving a library, use TEST *(module)?
>
> For example,
>
> test *(ISPF) cp
> ispf
>
>
>
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Again we have a reason to think back to Isaac Asimov.
1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction,
allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except
where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must prote
I would think that an open-source/CBT MetalC version based on an existing
open-source non-Z implementation should be eminently achievable. Not trivial
mind you, but achievable.
As for multi-platform, I believe that ooRexx already supports regex, although
the oorexx.org website does not want to
I think I had posted this back when ChatGPT first became available...
After doing multiple inquiries about various subjects, which returned
varying degrees of useful information I decided to ask it to write me a
sort program in HLASM. It returned the following:
-Standard entry routine and
ooRexx does have a limited regex class; it's not as powerful as PCRE2.
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If only there were a Rexx PCRE2 command processor for TSO REXX. The
challenge with regular expressions, especially in Perl, which is arguably
one of the least maintainable programming languages, is how quickly they
devolve into an unmanageable mess. PEG parsers, on the other hand, are far
more stru
PCRE2 has quite a bit more than ECMAscript.
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There is already a package for REXX regular expressions. It uses ECMAScript
grammar which is not far off PCRE https://github.com/daveyc/RTK.
On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 8:54 AM Farley, Peter <
031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> I would think that an open-source/CBT MetalC versio
On 11/01/2025 7:33 pm, Colin Paice wrote:
The idea says use the existing Java support to harden the shared
information across IPLs. This means the first start of z/OSMF will be
slow, as today, the next start will use half the CPU.
Please vote for it, or add comments to it.
I'll look into ZOWE
Hello
Cross posted
Just a general question
In the absence of ICSF, What are the z/OS ciphersuites i can use in pagent
configuration?
Jake
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That’s what I am doing I have a loop
Invoking CSVINFO
However if I have modulea,moduleb and modulec loaded
My MIPR only presents modulea on each invocation
Thanks
> On Jan 13, 2025, at 4:20 AM, Rob Scott
> <0618c90e6fdf-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> Your MIPR routine will
Have you considered LANG(CREX) on the previous SELECT, or putting a wrapper
around the edit macro that does?
I realize that executing an edit macro doesn't have (but probably should
have) an analogous option, so it's a bit of a long shot.
You might want to try to get the attention of someone from
Yup - Skip was the definition of "Good Folks"
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Just remember it’s super fast at sifting through data (the sum of which is on
the Internet) and will make all kinds of errors and assumptions just like
people do to fill gaps. It can create a lump of clay but not create the exact
vase you wanted.
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For anyone with interest and ability to meet in Washington DC on the 13th
of March, 2025, we plan to be there with sessions focused on security, and
an optional tour of IBM's X Force Cyber Range. Full agenda coming out
soon.
Best Regards,
Sir Kurt, Angler of new technologies and IBM Champion
><
indeed
CMS/TSO Pipelines (with a common codebase) is one of the most powerful
productivity tools in the industry.
There have been several attempts to bring this capability to other
platforms, including some attempts to provide a no-charge alternative on
TSO.
(C'mon, IBM, the up-charge is kil
It was great working with Skip Robinson because he would always be up on
the latest new functions, coming back from SHARE or IBM T3 and
immediately trying things out. He even regularly talked the managers
into letting us volunteer for the early ship program for new z/OS releases.
On 1/13/2025
Generative AI is like a genie that gives you what you asked for but not what
you want.
I asked ChatGPT: "Please write a Linux C subprogram to return the CPU time used
by the current process". It gave me an answer. I also googled, and found a
website that discussed "all the ways to get CPU time
Actually, lying to humans by robots eventually becomes R, Daneel Olivaw's
existence and purpose.
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On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 12:12 PM Lionel B Dyck
<057b0ee5a853-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
[deleted]>
> By giving false and/or misleading information can "allow a human being
> to come to harm"
>
The ancient Chinese curse of YES men, or YES robots.
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no no ... they DON'T give it away! Never have. Never will. And I didn't
mean to suggest that.
Someone managed to get CMS Pipelines included with base VM in the early
1990s. Dunno who that was but I'd like to buy him or her a beer ... and
not just at SCIDS.
Customers have been clamoring for TSO
The 3 laws
1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a
human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except where
such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection
d
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 11:43:03 -0500, Bob Bridges wrote:
>From my VERY limited exposure in this forum and by examining PowerShell
>scripts written by others, I get the impression that pipes are fabulous. But
>I live in TSO, so no opportunity to use pipes ... right?
> .
In TSO REXX:
address S
We've tried for many years via different methods but IBM has been
adamant in refusing to consider it. IBM did include a variation of TSO
Pipes with Netview (never used it so don't know much more) because of
the obvious process improvements provided by it.
A decent, open-source, alternative would b
As Pilate said, "What is truth?" Robots, like humans, have to judge
while dealing with probabilities of veracity, and so sometimes
misjudge.
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 6:12 PM Lionel B Dyck
<057b0ee5a853-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> The 3 laws
>
> 1. A robot may not injure a human b
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:19:35 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote:
>
>A decent, open-source, alternative would be wonderful.
>
That would be of greatest value if it were multi-platform.
And supported regular expressions. I once argued for that,
and John Hartmann replied that wold depend on a HLASM
impleme
Your MIPR routine will be driven for each module for a SINGLE invocation of
CSVINFO from your mainline code.
If you want to process a subset of module names, then your mainline should pass
(via the USERDATA parameter) a structure that contains the subset list.
Perhaps CSVQUERY would be an alter
Rob
Then In that case I would have to loop within
The MIPR exit
The way I understood it there is only ONE
CSVMODI and associated structures per invocation of the MIPR exit
Thanks
> On Jan 13, 2025, at 4:59 AM, Rob Scott
> <0618c90e6fdf-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> I th
Yes i meant what ciphersuites can be used when ICSF is used ?
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, 15:01 Colin Paice, <
059d4daca697-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Most of them. See.
> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=parameters-v3cipher. You can
> specify multiple v3cipher.
> Are you as
I replied directly to Mark Waterbury, but there seems to be slightly more
interest in this topic. I was the original author (the "O" in OZS) but it
was a long time ago, before all the modern
databases/forums/newsgroups/networks existed. I believe it helped set the
mindset for much later work.
Bill
I think you misunderstood me.
A single invocation of CSVINFO will drive your MIPR for each and every module
for the function you requested.
You do not need to loop.
Rob Scott
Rocket Software
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Joseph Reichman <00
No - you do not have to loop within MIPR either.
It will be driven for each and every module and you will get a fresh
MODI_HEADER for each one.
One CSVINFO request results in MULTIPLE invocations of your MIPR routine.
Rob Scott
Rocket Software
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Most of them. See.
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=parameters-v3cipher. You can
specify multiple v3cipher.
Are you asking which ones cannot be used if ICSF is not active?
Colin
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 at 08:01, Jake Anderson <
0655e880aa7d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Hel
Thanks let me revisit my code
> On Jan 13, 2025, at 5:17 AM, Rob Scott
> <0618c90e6fdf-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> No - you do not have to loop within MIPR either.
>
> It will be driven for each and every module and you will get a fresh
> MODI_HEADER for each one.
>
> One
categorise all the ZOWE components under sensible report classes, and look
at the 72 GOAL SMF to get an aggregated view?
On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 at 20:08, Colin Paice <
059d4daca697-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> I'm running ZOWE. The started task kicks off various SH commands. In
I'm reminded of a quote attributed to Sam Goldwyn: "I don't want yes men
around me. I want everyone to tell the truth, even if it costs them their
jobs". When I first encountered it I thought of it as a mere joke. It was
only years later that I realized Goldwyn was telling the exact, literal
HI,
Where do I go to get information on attending and to talk about where to stay,
etc.?
Brian
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I worked for a manager who said multiple times that if all of his
directs only gave him the answers that they expected him to want to
hear that they were redundant and he would fire them. He never did
fire anyone, that I know of, but he was always looking to be
challenged.
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at
There is. CBT file 939 includes a Rexx interface for TSO Rexx.
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If only there were a Rexx PCRE2 command processor for TSO REXX. The
challenge
An AX value of zero will check whether the current DU has access.
But I would question why the application level code is checking the AR.
How did it get it?
What does the AR being invalid mean to the program, i.e., what corrective
action will be taken?
If it is a PASN qualified ALET, the TAR
Hello
I have come across some usage of the Test Access instruction (TAR) in a problem
state program - given that TAR is documented in Chapter 10 of Pop (usually the
supervisor state instructions generally only of use to the operating system) I
am concerned that TAR is being used incorrectly
T
On Sun, 12 Jan 2025 23:57:06 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote:
>Because it doesn’t initialize X. -- it initializes X
>
I consider comments to be English phrases. I actually pondered
a moment and decided to make the comment a sentence, giving
no thought the syntax of imaginary pseudocode.
Teaser -- sh
Well, I certainly use pipes on my ArcaOS desktop and Linux laptops.
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I remember Skip talking about that at the time. He was puzzled for a bit .
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T
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:11:07 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote:
>The 3 laws
>
>1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a
>human being to come to harm.
>2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except where
>such orders would conflict with the First Law.
>3. A
You realize that the 3 laws require far more than the current state of the
art, don't you?
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Hey John Hartmann has to get his salary somehow!
Joe
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 12:35 PM Paul Gilmartin <
042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:19:35 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote:
> >
> >A decent, open-source, alternative would be wonderful.
> >
> That would
Update from ChatGPT: For ISPF edit macros, use the *IRXJSTUB* stub. It is
designed for REXX programs that interact with ISPF.
Seems like it would be worth a try.
OREXXMan
Q: What do you call the residence of the ungulate with the largest antlers?
A: A moose pad.
:-D
Would you rather pass data in
>From my VERY limited exposure in this forum and by examining PowerShell
>scripts written by others, I get the impression that pipes are fabulous. But
>I live in TSO, so no opportunity to use pipes ... right?
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If you're so blessed to have TSO REXX Pipes on your system then enjoy
- PIPEs are *awesome* but sadly they are a charge feature and thus not
pervasive in the ecosystem which prevents anyone from developing tools
using them except for their own shops.
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 10:43 AM Bob Bridges
<0
I don't see anything wrong with asking ChatGPT and checking out the options it
offers, if you feel you have the time. But if it doesn't work, I'd just shrug
and forget it. Those AI engines make stuff up sometimes. I gather their
target is to write something that is grammatical and often even
Telling the truth is not one of Asimov's three laws,
At 10:47 AM 1/13/2025, Bob Bridges wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with asking ChatGPT and checking out the
options it offers, if you feel you have the time. But if it doesn't
work, I'd just shrug and forget it. Those AI engines make stu
And the AI will conflate information from multiple sources - for
example it may take information from Linux and apply it to an answer
for z/OS.
Trust but verify is always a wise move.
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 10:48 AM Bob Bridges
<0587168ababf-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> I don't
Right, someone else should give it away. ~I~ don't want to develop the
full product and then not charge for it, but IBM should.
Sorry, just the capitalist in me sniping a little.
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Hi
I have a clist which has a TSOLIB for a load link attach module search
The loaded module is also located in the library with test invocation
Seems before searching the TSOLIB the system searches the library from the test
invocation
Is there any way to exclude this library from the searc
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