Wayne Bickerdike

2025-01-12 Thread Peter Vels
It is with great sadness Linda Bickerdike and the Bickerdike family wish to inform you of the unexpected but peaceful passing of Wayne Bickerdike on Monday 6th of January 2025. A memorial service will be held at 2 PM AEDT (GMT+11) Tuesday 21st of January at Christ Church Geelong, Cnr Moorabool & M

Re: history and evolution of INFO/MVS, INFO/VM-VSE etc.

2025-01-12 Thread Sebastian Welton
I know of sites actively running it (INFOMAN) and of companies developing for it and then there is this: https://www.ibm.com/mysupport/s/topic/0TO0z006v2NGAQ/tivoli-information-management-for-zos?language=en_US&productId=01t0z07g6zIAAQ Followed by this: https://log-on.com/2023/10/16/log

Re: The mainfeame is alive

2025-01-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
You don't usually see a comment on every line. In a well constructed program you only see comments where they add values, e.g., readability, maintainability, change tracking. On the flip side, it is legitimate to write pages of comments for a single instruction if that makes the code more reada

Re: history and evolution of INFO/MVS, INFO/VM-VSE etc.

2025-01-12 Thread Phil Smith III
Was "irewalls" a typo? I like it either way! We should rename them that in many cases. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2025 8:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: history and evolution of INFO/MVS,

Re: Wayne Bickerdike

2025-01-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
My condolences. --  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Peter Vels <05bb014f92b6-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Sunday, J

Re: The mainfeame is alive

2025-01-12 Thread Rupert Reynolds
Especially when the single instruction is Update Tree :-) Roops On Sun, 12 Jan 2025, 14:56 Seymour J Metz, wrote: > You don't usually see a comment on every line. In a well constructed > program you only see comments where they add values, e.g., readability, > maintainability, change tracking.

Re: The mainfeame is alive

2025-01-12 Thread Phil Smith III
Paul Gilmartin wrote, in part: > X = 0;/* Initialize X. */ Tsk. And that comment, if it were real, would be wrong! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu

CSVINFO/MIPR logic

2025-01-12 Thread Joseph Reichman
Hi I am looking for the load address for 3 modules I code the CSVINFO pass as a parameter the module I'm looking for it returns the information since there are two more modules I am looking for I call the CSVINFO calling the MIPR hoping it will get the next loaded module However it (MIPR exit)

Re: The mainfeame is alive

2025-01-12 Thread Phil Smith III
If you say so. Looked like Rexx to me! (And yes, I was being pedantic--but I'd never have put a period on it anyway, as it adds nothing and wastes possibly valuable real estate.) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Monday, January 13,

Re: The mainfeame is alive

2025-01-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 12 Jan 2025 14:56:57 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >You don't usually see a comment on every line. In a well constructed program >you only see comments where they add values, e.g., readability, >maintainability, change tracking. > I saw a PL/S listing on fiche. Every source line bore a c

Re: The mainfeame is alive

2025-01-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
When I was drafted into teaching a programming class I warned my student that I would take points off for pointless comments. However, the putting the source code into the object code as comments in the PL/S output does serve a purpose. Or are you referrin to /* ... */ comment in the PL/S sourc

Re: The mainfeame is alive

2025-01-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
Useles, yes, but why wrong? --  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Phil Smith III Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2025 8:47 PM To: IBM-

Re: The mainfeame is alive

2025-01-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
That's important, but so are things like entry conditions. permissible values, restrictions. --  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf o

Re: The mainfeame is alive

2025-01-12 Thread Phil Smith III
Because it doesn’t initialize X. -- it initializes X -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2025 11:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: The mainfeame is alive Useles, yes, but why wrong? -

Re: The mainfeame is alive

2025-01-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
Or its brother Compare and Form Codeword :-( -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Rupert Reynolds Sent: Sunday, January 12, 202

Re: The mainfeame is alive

2025-01-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
That's PL/S, so the period is just punctuation. Stem variales are in Rexx. --  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Phil Smith III

Re: The mainfeame is alive

2025-01-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 12 Jan 2025 21:32:20 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > >However, the putting the source code nnto the object code as comments in the >PL/S output does serve a purpose. Or are you referrin to /* ... */ comment in >the PL/S source code? > The latter. My memory exaggerates, bit some felt as b

Re: Wayne Bickerdike

2025-01-12 Thread Steve Thompson
Very sorry to hear this. My condolences. Steve Thompson On 1/12/2025 4:13 AM, Peter Vels wrote: It is with great sadness Linda Bickerdike and the Bickerdike family wish to inform you of the unexpected but peaceful passing of Wayne Bickerdike on Monday 6th of January 2025. A memorial service wi

Re: The mainfeame is alive

2025-01-12 Thread Thomas Berg
As I see it the important comments are those that explain WHY it is coded as it is. The only times I really wanted comments when there were none is when I wanted to know the reason for the coding at all or why it was coded in just that way. (E g when I was putting in changes in programs I didn't cr

Re: The mainfeame is alive

2025-01-12 Thread Bob Bridges
"Cargo-cult management", I like that! --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Q: What does the 'B' in "Benoit B Mandelbrot" stand for? A: Benoit B Mandelbrot. */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Sunday, Ja

Re: The mainframe is alive

2025-01-12 Thread Howard Rifkind
AND WELL Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 12, 2025, at 01:37, The North American Becker > <0762a73125b7-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > https://youtu.be/z3Canfs_2Gc > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archi

Re: The mainfeame is alive

2025-01-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
That sort of thing comes from cargo cult management. Be careful what metrics you apply, because people will attempt to optimize their evaluations at the expense of things that are important to the organization. --  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח