It is a warning, not an error.
On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 21:22:48 -0400 Tony Thigpen wrote:
:>I see the same issue on VSE 6.2 HLASM R6.0 2024/10/02 01.33
:>
:>0025F0 47F0 909802604 2194 B TONYXXX
:>0025F4 9120 D064 000642195 TMTMR4FLG1,FLG1MSG6
:>0025F8 47E0
Look at *.sumbit under class(surrogate)
Shelia Chalk
Mainframe System Programmer
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Peter
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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXT] JESSPOOL Internal reader acces
It seems to me that the assembler did exactly what you'd hope it to do:
Warn you about the label in an inappropriate place and then treat it as a
statement label, as if you had coded
DROP R11
DROPR11 DS0H
or
DROPR11 DS0H
DROP R11
Peter Relson
z/OS CoreTechnology Des
Hello everyone, but particularly Rob, since he responded. Thank you for the
alternatives, including the SYS1.MACLIB(BLSACTV) service, which is news to me.
I don't see it documented in the guide or reference manuals, but the macro
itself contains a description, much like a reference manual ent
Gary Weinhold wrote:
>I can imagine a junior assembler programmer thinking that they should
>branch to the DROP to ensure it was executed before entering the
>following code. I think it takes a while for new programmers to
>understand what USING and DROP statements actually do other than the
>neces
Maybe you should be looking at the JESINPUT class, resource INTRDR?
But you don't say why you are trying to achieve.
Lennie
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**Correction**
Maybe you should be looking at the JESINPUT class, resource INTRDR?
But you don't say *what* you are trying to achieve.
Lennie
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Sent: 02 October 2024 10:32
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Subje
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling
(Hmm, with two "l"s in "signalling", at least in the title; two is typically
British, one is American. But the article isn't even consistent, uses both. Now
let's discuss that...)
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Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH,
I realize that DS 0H forces alignment. I was wondering if EQU *
does/does not.
כתיבה וחתימה טובה
Regards,
David
On 2024-10-02 11:33, Seymour J Metz wrote:
It is still true that DS 0H forces alignment.
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עַם יִשְׂרָא
EQU * after a fullword aligned DS CL7 will happily place the EQU on an odd
address, however, the assembler will halfword align the next machine
instruction, inserting a slack byte, so you will get an 0C1 if you jump to
that tag.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 3:58 PM David Spiegel <
0468385049d1-dmar
It better not, otherwise things like this wouldn't give the right length.
STRING DC C'SOME LENGTH STRING'
STRINGL EQU *-STRING
Loc Object CodeAddr1 Addr2 Stmt Source Statement
114 *
54 116 STARTDSCL1
Here is a little history for everybody since I used to work in the Middle East
Back in the 70s Saudi Arabia fired all the Palestinians and deported them out
of Saudi Arabia. That’s just old history.
The more current history is that the Egyptians don’t want the Palestinians. So
what’s occurred?
I am referring to the next MACHINE instruction after the EQU, note you have
a slack byte between LAB1 and LAB2, here is my example:
000 00014 1 TESTMAP CSECT ,
00 07FE 2 BR14
02 D506 E000 F000 0 0 3 CLC
On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:05:34 -0500, I wrote:
>E-mail addresses are visible there, but you can also just click the pencil
>icon to reply to a post, and you'll have options to send your reply
>>To: To the List (IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU)
>> To the Poster (whoever@wherever)
However! I f
The answer to the subject question depends on what you mean by "treated".
In many cases a space is a space. The interface to ALESERV ADD is STOKEN. An
address space has an STOKEN. A data space has an STOKEN.
You can certainly access an address space's storage via an ALET on your DU-AL
or PASN-AL.
Thanks, Steve, for the history.
The topic is of great interest to me personally for a variety of
reasons, including that my wife and I have both traveled in the Middle
East and continue to do business there.
I also have many friends/colleagues with specific interest in Israel,
some of whom res
On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 17:21:51 -0400, Rick Troth wrote:
>But there's a problem. I don't know how to engage off-list. In fact, to
>chat with Steve is impossible because LISTSERV presents his email
>address as 050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu.
That should be a valid address to send him
For everyone
We are a community of hardcore IBM Systems programmers and developers that is
getting smaller.
I detest politics and conflict. And people construing malice where there is
none. If you believe there is malice
On this technical board you need to examine your concepts and belief sys
esmie moo,
And, just how in the world did saying 'be safe' spread 'propaganda'?
It appears that you are the one that is weaponizing the technical board.
Tony Thigpen
esmie moo wrote on 10/2/24 8:37 AM:
Please do NOT weaponise this technical board. Please do not use this board
to act a
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Steve Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2024 4:29 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Question on HLASM - B to a DROP statement!?!
Suggested code ch
Please do NOT weaponise this technical board. Please do not use this board to
act as a conduit to spread Israel propaganda.
On Tuesday, October 1, 2024 at 11:32:45 a.m. EDT, Steve Beaver
<050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
For the guys in Israel - please stay safe
Please,
Will everyone go back and read the OP's original post.
The question was not 'how to fix', but was instead, 'why did the
assembler allow something this stupid in the first place'.
My post was just to point out that the VSE HLASM does the exact same
thing. And, I have gotten multiple '
I agree with Tony - saying "be safe" is not propaganda or political - it is
showing care and concern for members of this community that are in harm's way.
Lionel B. Dyck <><
Github: https://github.com/lbdyck
System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze
“Worry more about your character
Hi,
Is there a way to check another address space private area? I need to see
what is happening on an active started task private region in order to
understand what is driving it full.
Regards
Jack
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Well said.
On Wednesday, October 2, 2024 at 09:09:15 a.m. EDT, Michael Watkins
<032966e74d0f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
Then let's hope everyone stays safe; not just the Israelis, but the
Palestinians, in both in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, the Lebanese, the
Syri
Remind me to not us copilot!
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http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי
נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר
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Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2024 10:38 AM
T
Not surprsing.
On Wednesday, October 2, 2024 at 11:00:19 a.m. EDT, Steve Beaver
<050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
Because the people on this list that responded are all the systems programmers
that live in Israel
Sent from my iPhone
No one said I could type with
That is what I was trying to articulate when I said "not to weaponise" this
technical board.
On Wednesday, October 2, 2024 at 09:45:37 a.m. EDT, Dave Beagle
<0525eaef6620-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
Many times it’s not what you say, but what you don’t say. I don’t recall y
It is still true that DS 0H forces alignment.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר
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David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...
While I agree with the sentiment, that's the sort of thing that belongs in your
sig, with a proper == SP CRLF separator.
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http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי
נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר
From: IBM Mainframe
The original question did not ask why it allowed something stupid. It was:
> Anyone see a problem with this? When did this kind of thing get
> accepted?
> ...
> And every one of those "Branch" instructions would have been flagged
> for an undefined label or some such.
I see a problem with not fix
In real time?
After the fact could be SMF 30 – as it has the numbers. However allocation is
not used and some applications GETMAIN the whole of their region as a matter of
course.
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Date:
"...Please do not use this board to act as a conduit to spread Israel
propaganda. ..." What an asinine remark! ... Maybe I should've said
bovine instead? Maybe you'd prefer Hezbollah/Hamas/PFLP/ propaganda? SMH
On 2024-10-02 08:37, esmie moo wrote:
Please do NOT weaponise this technical board
So why have it directed only at people in Israel?
Why not include people in Lebanon, Iran, Gaza, Ukraine, Russia and all the
other places where citizens lives are threatened by attack from another country?
I don't think this is relevant to IBM-MAIN discussions.
Lennie
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F
I agree - I am, as all of us should be, concerned with the safety of all our
community members.
The OP was focused on Israel probably because it was in the news most
recently.
Lionel B. Dyck <><
Github: https://github.com/lbdyck
System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/sze
Worry more
Your response is infantile.
On 02.10.2024 16:59, Steve Beaver wrote:
Because the people on this list that responded are all the systems
programmers that live in Israel
Sent from my iPhone
No one said I could type with one thumb
On Oct 2, 2024, at 09:48, willie bunter
<001409bd2345-dmar
Or even better, not posted it at all. I read and hear enough about this
stuff. I do not want to hear about, deal with it, wish anyone well, or
address it at all in this forum.
Please just everybody stop.
I'm relatively sure, like all Miss Universes, Miss USA's, Miss America's
etc. We all want w
Many sites configure MSGCLASS=Z for purge upon completion.
On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 11:59 PM Peter
<05e4a8a0a03d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> One of our Job is submitted directly to internal reader. Unfortunately the
> job output is not sent to spool.
>
> Is there a way to
Hi Allan,
As a rule, "DS 0H" used to be safer than "EQU *" since the former forces
half-word alignment.
(I do not know if that is still true.)
Regards,
David
On 2024-10-02 08:38, Allan Staller wrote:
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Exactly. I was going to say that. I?m concerned for all of those.
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of
Lennie Bradshaw
Date: Wednesday, 2 October 2024 at 14:06
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Israel
So why have it directed only at people in Israel?
Why not incl
Then let's hope everyone stays safe; not just the Israelis, but the
Palestinians, in both in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, the Lebanese, the
Syrians, the Jordanians, the Egyptions, the Iranians and the Yemenis.
Why? Because even if there are no contributors to this thread in all of those
ar
Many times it’s not what you say, but what you don’t say. I don’t recall you
telling the people in Ukraine, GAZA, or Lebanon to stay safe. I agree with
Esmie.
Dave B.
إسرائيل قتلت 40 ألف فلسطيني بريء
On Wednesday, October 2, 2024, 9:10 AM, Lionel B. Dyck
<057b0ee5a853-dmarc-requ...@li
Yup.
You can also use the "JM" action from AS to get a subpool summary and then
drill down to each bit of memory from there using "L" (if you are so inclined).
Rob Scott
Rocket Software
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Martin Packer
Sent: Wednesday
Lennie,
You are spot on. The person who made this post should have included
everyone whose lives are threatened by attacks. Well said.
On Wednesday, October 2, 2024 at 09:05:59 a.m. EDT, Lennie Bradshaw
wrote:
So why have it directed only at people in Israel?
Why not include pe
Because the people on this list that responded are all the systems programmers
that live in Israel
Sent from my iPhone
No one said I could type with one thumb
> On Oct 2, 2024, at 09:48, willie bunter
> <001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> Lennie,
> You are spo
Hi Martin,
I think that that will do the trick. Thank you for the tip.
Regards
Jack
On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 at 14:01, Martin Packer wrote:
> In real time?
>
> After the fact could be SMF 30 – as it has the numbers. However allocation
> is not used and some applications GETMAIN the whole of their re
SDSF has the AS (Address space memory) command. This provides a lot of
information about address space regions.
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'nuff said. Let's drop the subject.
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too true
Steve, you really should have held back. Look now and see that others
have been stirred up.
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استخدم الفلسطينيون 40 ألف مدني بريء كدروع بشرية
On 10/2/24 9:45 AM, Dave Beagle wrote:
Many times it’s not what you say, but what you don’t say. I don’t recall you
telling t
This distribution List it is a great place to put questions and see answer
and know people, we need that, however we will need be prepared to survive
in a changing century and ready for AI stuff that are arriving...
Let see what AI reply to our question about LABEL DROP
I did enter this question:
Right. That was where I (or probably Rob) would go next – if real(ish) time
monitoring were required.
Cheers, Martin
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Steely.Mark <0708bf6ac9be-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
Date: Wednesday, 2 October 2024 at 15:01
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.E
This isn't the first time this topic has arisen and it probably won't be the
last.
Why not exchange email addresses with all of your friends in Israel and
communicate with them about unrelated topics privately instead of on this
listserv?
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Almost half of the people living in Israel are Muslim.
The real problem is the Palestinians who left as refugees are not
being allowed to emigrate and assimilate into other countries, like
almost all refugees in history.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 10:30 PM Dave Beagle
<0525eaef6620-dmarc-requ...@l
Oh for God's sake STOP!!
STOP already. That statement below is one of the most disgusting racist
statements I have ever seen here.
THIS IS A TECHNICAL FORUM. KEEP IT THAT WAY. TAKE YOUR RACIST CRAP
ELSEWHERE.
WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW IS NOT WORTH TOLERATING THIS.
Doug Fuerst
The funny or maybe not so funny is Jews & Palestinians share a common ancestry.
Yes, Israelis and Palestinians share a lineage:
-
-
-
- Genetic overlap A DNA study found substantial genetic overlap between
Israeli/Palestinian Arabs and Jews.
-
- Common
Please stop! Just don't respond, no matter how much you want to.
Darren
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Lol, there is plenty of malice. This list consist of a bunch of mostly white,
mostly males. Many of whom aren’t nearly as educated or intelligent as they
want to portray. I can only imagine the types who post here. It’s truly a
despicable place. Deplorables if you will. Let’s not pretend this bo
It’s far most complex that that. And goes back much further. Go back to at
least 1948.
One of the two envisaged States proclaimed its independence as Israel and in
the 1948 war involving neighbouring Arab States expanded to 77 percent of the
territory of mandate Palestine, including the larger p
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