Re: Switching between SMT-1 and SMT-2

2023-09-01 Thread Peter Relson
I was referring specifically to the thread's topic of "switching between", not to "using" SMT-2. I fully agree that you might choose not to use. It would be less likely that you'd go through the hassle of "switching". Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design --

Re: Help for US Talent

2023-09-01 Thread Jack Zukt
Been there, got a lot of t-shirts Jack On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 at 21:59, Seymour J Metz wrote: > Sometimes you have to do something boring that is not your responsibility > because you're the only one they trust to do it right and they can't afford > for it to be done wrong. > > That said, there's n

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Re: On-Prem to Cloud Mainframe Migration Experiences

2023-09-01 Thread Lance D. Jackson
Thanks Jerry - any insight would be appreciated. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 17:09 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Re: On-Prem to Cloud Mainframe Migration Experiences OK

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Re: On-Prem to Cloud Mainframe Migration Experiences

2023-09-01 Thread Lance D. Jackson
Thanks Dave. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 17:21 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: Re: On-Prem to Cloud Mainframe Migration Experiences When we moved our LPARs to a hosting servic

Re: Switching between SMT-1 and SMT-2

2023-09-01 Thread Jim Elliott
Mark: Thanks. Searching through the doc I could not find this, but obviously I was searching with the wrong terms. Regards, Jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.

Re: Switching between SMT-1 and SMT-2

2023-09-01 Thread Jim Elliott
Peter: Hopefully you would not need to. However, since enabling SMT requires you to re-IPL z/OS, it is nice to be able to switch from SMT-2 to SMT-1, if you are having performance issues, without a re-IPL. I have seen very good results from SMT-2 in my customers, but there could always be that

Re: Switching between SMT-1 and SMT-2

2023-09-01 Thread Scott Chapman
There are two levels of dispatching here: PR/SM dispatches zIIP cores for the LPARs to use. Whether the LPAR uses both threads on that core or not depends on the z/OS setting. With SMT enabled, it looks like you have twice as many zIIPs as the LPAR has online zIIP cores. But (IIRC) the even-odd

Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-01 Thread Robert Raicer
Hi folks; It's been several months since I've received anything from the IBM Assembler List Server.  The last I knew, the list server e-mail address was: assembler-l...@listserv.uga.edu Is this still correct? Are any of you still getting e-mails from that list server? Thanks for the help! Bob

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-01 Thread Bill Hitefield
I received something from it within the last few weeks. ==> "IBM Mainframe Assembler List" wrote on 08/19/2023 11:34:03 AM: Looks like the "G" may be missing in the link you have. Bill Hitefield > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Robert Raicer >

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-01 Thread Steve Thompson
Yes I have. It doesn't have a lot of traffic. Steve Thompson On 9/1/2023 10:28 AM, Robert Raicer wrote: Hi folks; It's been several months since I've received anything from the IBM Assembler List Server.  The last I knew, the list server e-mail address was: assembler-l...@listserv.uga.edu Is

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-01 Thread Tom Marchant
The web interface is at https://listserv.uga.edu/scripts/wa-UGA.exe?A0=ASSEMBLER%2dLIST If you haven't received anything for several months, it might have been directed to spam by your mail client. -- Tom Marchant On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 14:33:51 +, Bill Hitefield wrote: >I received somethin

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-01 Thread Bill Hitefield
My bad. I was looking at the wrong line. But, I do still get items from them. Bill Hitefield Dino-Software Corporation 800.480.DINO www.dino-software.com > -Original Message- > From: Bill Hitefield > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2023 10:34 AM > To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > Subjec

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-01 Thread Bill Johnson
Which proves my point from a prior thread that coding and using assembler is almost nonexistent.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, September 1, 2023, 10:39 AM, Steve Thompson wrote: Yes I have. It doesn't have a lot of traffic. Steve Thompson On 9/1/2023 10:28 AM, Robert Raicer w

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 08:28:41 -0600, Robert Raicer wrote: > >It's been several months since I've received anything from >the IBM Assembler List Server.  The last I knew, the list server >e-mail address was: assembler-l...@listserv.uga.edu > The newest post in the archives is: Re: Define Flag (DF) M

Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following IBM-MAIN

2023-09-01 Thread Tom Marchant
PKB 72 of the 1223 posts in August were from you. That's 5.88% of all the posts, or about 1 in 17. Clearly, you are one of the "20-30 who dominate this platform with drivel." -- Tom Marchant On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 19:38:17 +, Bill Johnson wrote: >Everyone needs to add their 2 cents to the th

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-01 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bill, More nonsense! If you were to support Exits and redo them when necessary, you wouldn't be making such broad generalizations. Regards, David On 2023-09-01 10:43, Bill Johnson wrote: Which proves my point from a prior thread that coding and using assembler is almost nonexistent. Sen

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-01 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi Bob, It is a quiet list which is probably self-fulfilling. I have seen several questions on IBM-Main over the last several months regarding assembler programming. So people asking on the assembler list don't get responses so they come over here and get their questions answered so don't bot

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-01 Thread Bill Johnson
I worked at more shops than most of you. 15 or so. Never once did I or any coworkers (tech support) ever need to write assembler in over 40 years. Many of them very large shops too. The health insurance company I worked at had a system written in the 80’s that had some assembler that infrequentl

Re: With regrets, after many years I will no longer be following IBM-MAIN

2023-09-01 Thread Bill Johnson
Selective time frame meaningless. Now do 2023. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, September 1, 2023, 11:06 AM, Tom Marchant <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: PKB 72 of the 1223 posts in August were from you. That's 5.88% of all the posts, or about 1 in 17. Clear

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-01 Thread Mike Schwab
Had one email list blocked by my ISP. Said the server sent 90% spam. (Had a lot of email lists, about 1996). On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 9:42 AM Tom Marchant <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > The web interface is at > https://listserv.uga.edu/scripts/wa-UGA.exe?A0=ASSEMBLER%

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-01 Thread Steve Thompson
Or be getting recruiters calling you for fixing/updating old ALC programs. Not recruiter, but multiple from multiple companies. And for fixing exits for JES2, IMS, etc. Steve Thompson On 9/1/2023 11:11 AM, David Spiegel wrote: Hi Bill, More nonsense! If you were to support Exits and redo th

Re: Switching between SMT-1 and SMT-2

2023-09-01 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 1 Sept 2023 at 09:55, Scott Chapman <03fffd029d68-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > There are two levels of dispatching here: PR/SM dispatches zIIP cores for the > LPARs to use. Whether the LPAR uses both threads on that core or not depends > on the z/OS setting. With SMT enab

Re: Switching between SMT-1 and SMT-2

2023-09-01 Thread Mark Jacobs
There is no MT on general purpose processors. Only on zIIPs can it be enabled. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&search=markjac...@protonmail.com --- Original Message --- On Friday, September 1s

Re: Switching between SMT-1 and SMT-2

2023-09-01 Thread Tom Brennan
Yes - Here's a quick blurb from some IBM doc I have on my PC: "Simultaneous multithreading is the ability of a single physical processor (core) to simultaneously dispatch instructions from more than one hardware thread context. Because there are two hardware threads per physical processor, add

Re: Switching between SMT-1 and SMT-2

2023-09-01 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 9/1/2023 10:05 AM, Tom Brennan wrote: Beyond that, I have no idea how this works, or what workloads could benefit from it. There are always things that suspend the instruction stream -- for example a cache miss that requires a cache line be loaded from memory. While one thread is suspe

Re: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive

2023-09-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
Alive and well, but low volume. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Robert Raicer Sent: Friday, September 1, 2023 10:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Is the IBM Assembler List still alive Hi folks; It's been several months since