Re: zOSMF

2023-05-26 Thread Jack Zukt
The real problem, as I see it, is that drag and drop interfaces move you away from the need to know what you are doing. A long time ago, the first MVS install that I did on my own, took me a few months to do it. I was doing it under VM/XA and I did a few complete back to square one at the time, as

Re: zOSMF

2023-05-26 Thread Colin Paice
Would it help if we moved to standard configurations? With ADCD environment you unzip files to get the 3390 images. You get working system out if the box, and SMP/e environment. This looks like a good way to go and may fit many people's requirements. This takes away a lot of the complexity, and

z/OS 3.1: Now UNIX® Certified

2023-05-26 Thread Timothy Sipples
z/OS 3.1 has already earned its UNIX® certification... https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/brand3693.htm — Timothy Sipples Senior Architect Digital Assets, Industry Solutions, and Cybersecurity IBM zSystems/LinuxONE, Asia-Pacific sipp...@sg.ibm.com -

Are there samples of COBOL methods or classes?

2023-05-26 Thread Billy Ashton
Hi, While working on the earlier problems I had, I ran into the concepts of COBOL Methods and Classes, and understand they can be used for Java in addition to regular COBOL programs. The documentation does not explain the "why" behind these or the "how" and "what", so I wonder if anyone has any

Re: z/OS 3.1: Now UNIXR Certified

2023-05-26 Thread Phil Smith III
Timothy Sipples wrote: >z/OS 3.1 has already earned its UNIXR certification... >https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/brand3693.htm Not tryna be contentious, just honestly confused: "already"? As opposed to what? I.e., what makes this an "already"? --

Re: Are there samples of COBOL methods or classes?

2023-05-26 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>> The documentation does not explain the "why" behind these or the "how" and >> "what", Billy, The chapter 35(Writing object-oriented programs) in the application programming guide is a good place to start. https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/cobol-zos/6.4?topic=programs-writing-object-oriented And

Re: z/OS 3.1: Now UNIXR Certified

2023-05-26 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 26.05.2023 o 15:02, Phil Smith III pisze: Timothy Sipples wrote: z/OS 3.1 has already earned its UNIXR certification... https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/brand3693.htm Not tryna be contentious, just honestly confused: "already"? As opposed to what? I.e., what makes this an "a

Re: z/OS 3.1: Now UNIXR Certified

2023-05-26 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 26 May 2023 at 15:30, Radoslaw Skorupka < 0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: [...] > Not to defend Timothy or z/OS :-) Indeed... :-) > To be contentious: nowadays nobody cares. Indeed, when we talk about > non-Windows distributed system we usually think about Linux.

Re: zOSMF

2023-05-26 Thread Steve Thompson
Thank you for this posting. It brings up a question that I've had since a problem with getting z/OS 1.6 installed... Back when I did do z/OS sys-programming, you had to have a driving system (at a specific level or above) to install z/OS So we are the ABCZ company and we have decided to g

Re: z/OS 3.1: Now UNIX® Certified

2023-05-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 26 May 2023 12:02:32 +, Timothy Sipples wrote: >z/OS 3.1 has already earned its UNIX® certification... > >https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/brand3693.htm > What version of UNIX? Trying to follow links to find out, I get 404 for: , "Com

Introducing watsonx Day: an IBM TechXchange Virtual Event

2023-05-26 Thread Phil Smith III
Link: https://mailchi.mp/0a507e585f81/introducing-watsonx-day-an-ibm-techxchange-virtual-event?e=51c1e42714 This might or might turn out to be an interesting session, but somebody at IBM is asleep at the switch here. The email came from BeMyApp make...@bemyapp.com

Re: zOSMF

2023-05-26 Thread Kurt J. Quackenbush
> ... how do we install this since we have never had a z/OS system before? You use the z/OS COD (Customized Offerings Driver): https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=system-customized-offerings-driver It’s a load-and-go z/OS you use strictly for installing your full blown z/OS. Kurt Quacken

Re: z/OS 3.1: Now UNIXR Certified

2023-05-26 Thread Phil Smith III
Ah, ok, "since before GA". Cool. thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Effective region

2023-05-26 Thread Gary Weinhold
This sort of control block chasing can usually be done in COBOL, if that helps. Radoslaw wrote: W dniu 24.05.2023 o 03:26, Phil Smith III pisze: > Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >> Scenario: >> Default REGION >> REGION specified explicitely in JOB card (or in another similar way) >> SMFLIMxx and/or IEFU

Re: z/OS 3.1: Now UNIXR Certified

2023-05-26 Thread Matt Hogstrom
IMHO Unix certification is not particularly relevant these days … it’s Linux tool chain compatibility that is. I spend time frequently having to adjust to old “Unix” utilities and command line arguments that are not supported (grep -r anyone?) A refresh of the toolchain and open source langu

Re: Effective region

2023-05-26 Thread Phil Smith III
FYI, Radoslaw, that was getting the "current values 'from inside' of the task", to use your phrasing. So you could make this work. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listser

Re: zOSMF

2023-05-26 Thread Steve Thompson
Thank you. Somehow I missed that. On 5/26/2023 10:26 AM, Kurt J. Quackenbush wrote: ... how do we install this since we have never had a z/OS system before? You use the z/OS COD (Customized Offerings Driver): https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=system-customized-offerings-driver It’s a

Re: FTP client question

2023-05-26 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
z/OS can do load balancing if you have mutiple equal cost routes defined, one route for each OSA and I think they could be the same route, something like: BeginRoutes route default = OSA_INTERFACE1 route default = OSA_INTERFACE2 ENDRoutes You could use either default

Re: FTP client question

2023-05-26 Thread Steve Thompson
I have a question about the alternating of packets. If one is using an MFT product with encryption and hand-shakes, will the alternating packets between routes not cause the "connection" and data xfer(s) to fail? I'm asking because I know just enough about Network traffic to be truly dangero

Re: z/OS 3.1: Now UNIX® Certified

2023-05-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
(Subject: repaired to match first ply.) On Fri, 26 May 2023 10:30:54 -0400, Matt Hogstrom wrote: >IMHO Unix certification is not particularly relevant these days … it’s Linux >tool chain compatibility that is. I spend time frequently having to adjust to >old “Unix” utilities and command line ar

Re: z/OS 3.1: Now UNIXR Certified

2023-05-26 Thread Mohammad Khan
FSF and Linux can reasonably be ignored in this discussion but was there a time when Unix System Services (of z/OS or OS/390) was competitor to other platforms that claimed to be UNIX? How many third party apps were available / supported / marketed for USS as against AIX, HPUX or Solaris? How ma

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF

2023-05-26 Thread Phil Smith III
Jack Zukt wrote, in part: >The real problem, as I see it, is that drag and drop interfaces move you >away from the need to know what you are doing. That’s the *goal*. Do you know what the Windows installer is doing? Android? iOS? No you do not, beyond the high-level “putting in places” and “

Re: Effective region

2023-05-26 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 26.05.2023 o 16:39, Phil Smith III pisze: FYI, Radoslaw, that was getting the "current values 'from inside' of the task", to use your phrasing. So you could make this work. That's what I understood. Thank you again for the help. However my goal was rather to start, let's say CICS region

Re: Effective region

2023-05-26 Thread Tom Brennan
A long time ago when I was working on a limit exit, for testing I would run a small program that did a variable length getmain for below/above the line, something like this: GETMAIN VRC,LV=(1600,32) GETMAIN VRC,LV=(20,32),LOC=ANY ... and then spit out the results. The idea was

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF

2023-05-26 Thread Shaffer, Terri
While I see where you went with your thought process, the mainframe I don’t think will ever get to a windows or Android mentality. I mean I know IBM wants to make the mainframe less complex, but by design that can only go so far. For example, How many SMPE environments does a company have? How

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF

2023-05-26 Thread Phil Smith III
Terri: Right. That’s been my point from the start: while a noble effort, it’s not going to get there without putting a LOT of work into changing the underpinnings. This is trying to fix a foundation problem by spackling and painting over it. Since it’s not even being discussed—folks seem to be c

Re: FTP client question

2023-05-26 Thread Joel C. Ewing
I suspect "connection" in this context means the opening of a TCP/IP socket, which establishes the path between ports on two nodes, and that all subsequent packets follow that established path.  That would  suggest that transmission of a single file by one FTP instance would still be constraine

DSCLI commands from mainframe batch

2023-05-26 Thread Bhu M
I am looking to run a dscli commands for a remote DS8884 DR system through Mainframe batch jobs from production system (z15/zos2.5). Any leads are appreciated? Thanks, BM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access in

Re: Effective region

2023-05-26 Thread Mike Schwab
If you can look at a job that is ended, the job log step completion message shows the amount used 24/31/64 bit areas. On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 11:44 AM Radoslaw Skorupka <0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > W dniu 26.05.2023 o 16:39, Phil Smith III pisze: > > FYI, Radoslaw, t

Re: z/OS 3.1: Now UNIXR Certified

2023-05-26 Thread Mike Schwab
I think MVS/ESA Unix was certified to posix standard for U.S government contracts. Somebody paid for Linux to get the same certification about the same era. Most Linuxes are not certified. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/522413/why-are-most-linux-distributions-not-posix-compliant On Fr

SSHD terminates immediately with permission(?) problem

2023-05-26 Thread Wendell Lovewell
I've done something wrong that I can't identify, and now SSHD terminates immediately after starting. I'm not getting anything helpful on the console or in the joblog. But I am getting these msgs in syslog: OMVSKERN SSHD3sshd[67174408]: error: FOTS1442 Bind to port 22 on :: failed: EDC51

Re: SSHD terminates immediately with permission(?) problem

2023-05-26 Thread Michael Babcock
Check your TCPIP config member. Something else is listening on port 22. Perhaps another SSHD. Issue the netstat command to see the offender. On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 6:49 PM Wendell Lovewell < 01e9c0ee0673-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I've done something wrong that I can't ident

Re: SSHD terminates immediately with permission(?) problem

2023-05-26 Thread Tom Brennan
This may be way off so ignore if it sounds crazy... Here's a snip of some old server code I wrote in C for Linux: client_sockin.sin_port = htons(port); rc = bind(local_socket,(struct sockaddr *)&client_sockin,sizeof(client_sockin)); if (rc != 0) log_msg(0,LM_EXIT,12,"Cannot bind to port %d

Re: SSHD terminates immediately with permission(?) problem

2023-05-26 Thread Tom Brennan
Can you change the port from 22 to something over 1023 for a quick test? On 5/26/2023 6:01 PM, Tom Brennan wrote: This may be way off so ignore if it sounds crazy... Here's a snip of some old server code I wrote in C for Linux:   client_sockin.sin_port = htons(port);   rc = bind(local_socket,

Re: DSCLI commands from mainframe batch

2023-05-26 Thread Alain Benvéniste
Hi, It is an open issue on IBM idea site. Resiliency Services on Z Mainframe alain.benveni...@kyndryl.com > Le 27 mai 2023 à 00:07, Bhu M a écrit : > > I am looking to run a dscli commands for a remote DS8884 DR system through > Mainframe batch jobs from production system (z15/zos2.5). > >