z/OS 3.1 Preview Webcast (Asia-Pacific Friendly Time)

2023-03-30 Thread Timothy Sipples
On Friday, April 14, 2023, at 11:00 AM Singapore Time (03:00 UTC) I'll be hosting Gary Puchkoff for the hour. Gary will explain the technical highlights of this year's z/OS 3.1 release. Please join us if you can make it. We'll reserve some time for your questions. This time is probably best sui

Re: z/OS 3.1 Preview Webcast (Asia-Pacific Friendly Time)

2023-03-30 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Hi Timothy, Do you know if a similar webcast will be presented in Europena or US time? Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: יום ה 30 מרץ 2023 11:18 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: z/OS 3.1 Preview Webcast (Asia-Pacific Frien

Re: z/OS 3.1 Preview Webcast (Asia-Pacific Friendly Time)

2023-03-30 Thread Colin Paice
Will the charts be available to us? On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 at 09:18, Timothy Sipples wrote: > On Friday, April 14, 2023, at 11:00 AM Singapore Time (03:00 UTC) I'll be > hosting Gary Puchkoff for the hour. Gary will explain the technical > highlights of this year's z/OS 3.1 release. Please join us

Re: Almost gone

2023-03-30 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 29.03.2023 o 17:16, John McKown pisze: HealthMarkets z9BC is shutting down. User access will be removed 5Apr. CICS will be unavailable after 31Mar. The last day is at the end of April. Most of the equipment is so old it is being destroyed, except for the tape drives which are being sold fo

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: concatenated SMPPTS datasets

2023-03-30 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential True, But SMPE does not maintain the location of the PTfs in the spill datasets. They can be copied (at will) between any of the spill datasets. So start with SMPPTSn and copy all PTFs to SMPPTS1 (that will fit). Repeat as needed until SMPPTSn is empty. It can then b

Re: Almost gone

2023-03-30 Thread John McKown
Actually, Optum Technologies started this project a little over a year ago. They basically threw money and developers at, a long with telling the users to "suck it up and deal with it." On Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 06:55 Radoslaw Skorupka < 0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > W dniu

finding DU-AL in a dump

2023-03-30 Thread Joseph Reichman
Hi v I have two ALETS one from an address space one from a dataspace they are both on DU-AL I put them there via ALESERV AL=WORKUNIT I am looking for them in a dump I know the acronym ALE: in a dump stands for Access list element I also know that STCBALOV offset X'20 from the STCB f

Re: z/OS 3.1 Preview Webcast (Asia-Pacific Friendly Time)

2023-03-30 Thread Pommier, Rex
Gadi, Gary presented this (presumably) same material in the US on March 21. Unfortunately I don't have the replay information. Perhaps somebody can provide you that information. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi Sent: Thursday, Mar

Re: Almost gone

2023-03-30 Thread Wendell Lovewell
Sorry to see you go John. Your brilliance and humility have been noticed, and much appreciated. May God bless you richly in this next phase of life. Maranatha! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instruct

Re: Almost gone

2023-03-30 Thread Tom Marchant
So the current vendor has been working on moving you off the mainframe for a year, but ISTR that you have been talking about the plan to do it for many years. How long has that been? John, I appreciate your posts over the years. You will be missed. Good luck in your retirement, or whatever come

Re: Check my math?

2023-03-30 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Many moons ago I tried to count the number of all possible dataset names. Assuming "correct names", that means up to 44 characters, no digit on first char in the qualifier, 1-8 char per qualifier, etc. I gave up - too complex. Especially because of number of quals vs qual. length relationship.

Re: Check my math?

2023-03-30 Thread John McKown
I was doing to do the same. But when I ended up with 4 trillion+ for a single node, I gave up. On Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 09:59 Radoslaw Skorupka < 0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Many moons ago I tried to count the number of all possible dataset > names. Assuming "correct nam

Re: Check my math?

2023-03-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
Being lazy, I wrote a REXX script to do the arithmetic. Pencil and paper? "No, no, no, it ain't me babe. It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe." From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Radoslaw Skorupka <0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.u

Re: Almost gone

2023-03-30 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 09:20 Wendell Lovewell < 01e9c0ee0673-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Sorry to see you go John. > > Your brilliance and humility have been noticed, and much appreciated. My brilliance rivals that of a refrigerator bulb. But, enough about my vast humility. 😂 >

Re: Almost gone

2023-03-30 Thread John McKown
Ah, the original desire has been around for a couple of decades. It was actually once. But the performance, increased difficulty of use, and cost caused the company to back off. A big waste of time and money. But Optum Technologies has a "Drive to five" initiative to go to 5 Windows based software

Re: ASM call by value

2023-03-30 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Perhaps the "weird way" could be documented as an appropriate way to pass arguments by value instead of the standard by reference. Then it would no longer be weird! From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Steve Smith Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 9:

Re: Almost gone

2023-03-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
> and on dialysis I'm sorry to hear that. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of John McKown [john.archie.mck...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 11:4

Open Job posting

2023-03-30 Thread Dave Jousma
All, I have a new job posting for Mainframe Storage Management/Sysprog position that can be seen here: https://fifththird.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/53careers/job/Cincinnati-OH/Lead-Technical-Engineer---Mainframe-Storage-Management_R40828 The job is primarily storage management, but with room for g

Re: Open Job posting

2023-03-30 Thread Thomas Kern
Sorry, but I am not interested in changing employment. Tom On 3/30/2023 1:40 PM, Dave Jousma wrote: All, I have a new job posting for Mainframe Storage Management/Sysprog position that can be seen here: https://fifththird.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/53careers/job/Cincinnati-OH/Lead-Technical-Eng

Currency format suggestions, please?

2023-03-30 Thread Rupert Reynolds
Well, I'm making progress with my 1-off 'just for fun' language. It owes much to Rexx, PL/I and the C-like languages. I added a function for currency formats. So far it can support these, optionally with a floating currency string (such as $, INR or Rs and so on) :- $12,345,668.90 €12.345.678,90

Re: Almost gone

2023-03-30 Thread Farley, Peter
Best of luck to you John. You will be missed. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 11:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Almost gone HealthMarkets z9BC is shutting down. User access will be remov

Re: Currency format suggestions, please?

2023-03-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
I certainly use comma separators after a decimal point. Do you support the European style that reverses the roles of comma and period? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Rupert Reynolds Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 2:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@L

zOSMF certificates

2023-03-30 Thread rpinion865
If you installed the zOSMF certificates from the IZUSEC member of SYS1.SAMPLIB, you might want to check the certificate expiration date. Ours was set to May 17, 2023. We've deleted and regenerated the certificate with a much later date. Hopefully, past my retirement date. Sent with [Proton Mail

Re: ASM call by value

2023-03-30 Thread Joel C. Ewing
But aren't both Example 1 & 2 still passing the address of literal =F'3' to the called routine, a literal that is only set at assembly time?   If there is a bug in the called routine that allows it to store a value back at that address at run time, it actually changes the value in the literal p

Re: ASM call by value

2023-03-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 16:09:43 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >Perhaps the "weird way" could be documented as an appropriate way to pass >arguments by value instead of the standard by reference. Then it would no >longer be weird! > What code does the compiler generate when a long scalar such as _

Re: finding DU-AL in a dump

2023-03-30 Thread Glen Garrison
Take the last 2 bytes of your alet, multiply by x'10' and add to the value of stcbalov. (index into the du-al). That gets you to the ALE -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 8:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.E

Re: finding DU-AL in a dump

2023-03-30 Thread Joseph Reichman
How did you come up with that ? I’ll Look Is there anyway figuring it out with our knowing the alet I mean maybe by starting at the bottom And looking for a non zero entry > On Mar 30, 2023, at 3:41 PM, Glen Garrison wrote: > > Take the last 2 bytes of your alet, multiply by x'10' and add

Re: finding DU-AL in a dump

2023-03-30 Thread Glen Garrison
The du-al, as well as the pasn are access LISTS. Tables used to translate an alet to the correct DAT structures for the "space" you have aleserv'ed onto the list. Aleserv add obtains an entry in the list for your request and assigns it to your request and builds the alet based on the index of

Re: Open Job posting

2023-03-30 Thread Tom Brennan
Good to see! Especially the not-going-away part. Also, this item is attractive - "SUPERVISORY RESPONSIBILITIES: None" On 3/30/2023 10:40 AM, Dave Jousma wrote: All, I have a new job posting for Mainframe Storage Management/Sysprog position that can be seen here: https://fifththird.wd5.mywor

Re: Currency format suggestions, please?

2023-03-30 Thread Rupert Reynolds
Yes. Also spaces as separators, instead. One style I haven't seen for ages was where the output had asterisk replacing every possible leading spaces/zeroes, to prevent tampering I guess. Roops On Thu, 30 Mar 2023, 19:20 Seymour J Metz, wrote: > I certainly use comma separators after a decima

Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please [was: RE: ASM call by value]

2023-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
Ok, I'll bite: What's the difference between the ANY and OTHER conditions? Oh, wait, cool! Does the ANY condition execute even any of the above conditions evaluate as true? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* It is a serious thing to live in a society of possible gods

Re: finding DU-AL in a dump

2023-03-30 Thread Joseph Reichman
Chapter 5 in the pops book is program execution on page 5-46 is access register introduction being an ALET is loaded onto an access register would reading up on that give me a better understanding of doing what I want to do I mean finding/if there are any alets for that TASK/SRB thanks ---

Re: Currency format suggestions, please?

2023-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
Spaces, really? I thought I was the only one who'd adopted that. I first saw it suggested by Isaac Asimov, but no one else seems to have got the memo. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* "Coïncidence" is the word we use when we can't see the levers and pulleys. -Emma

Re: Unzip on z/OS ?

2023-03-30 Thread Schmitt, Michael
What if the requirement is to compress or decompress an area of memory, by calling something from a COBOL CICS transaction running on z/OS, in a way that it could be compatibly decompress or compress by a program running on another platform? For example: CICS > compress > send across some commu

Re: Almost gone

2023-03-30 Thread Mike Schwab
Might try L-Lysine. It is an amino acid already present in food but a slightly higher level (1 pill per day) might help. Very low cost. https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220819/Intake-of-lysine-prevents-hypertensive-kidney-disease-in-animal-models.aspx On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 10:44 AM John Mc

Re: ASM call by value

2023-03-30 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Am 30.03.2023 um 21:32 schrieb Paul Gilmartin: What code does the compiler generate when a long scalar such as _Decimal128 is passed by value? The C compiler - at least - puts the long scalar in the reg1 list where it uses more than 4 bytes. "call by value" in my understanding means, that val

Re: Currency format suggestions, please?

2023-03-30 Thread Rupert Reynolds
Yes. Some sources say blanks as thousands separators are recognised internationally, especially in Europe. I wouldn't go that far, but I've seen it in the wild in a few places around Europe. The pairs of digits between commas in India were the biggest surprise to me, so far. Roops On Thu, 30 M

Re: ASM call by value

2023-03-30 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Am 30.03.2023 um 21:32 schrieb Paul Gilmartin: Does C use the CALL VL convention? C has a portable solution for functions with a varying number of parameters, that is the mechanism defined in the ANSI header Most interesting, these sort of functions - like printf() and scanf() - need to hav

Re: Unzip on z/OS ?

2023-03-30 Thread Tom Harper
Michael, I would consider using zEDC which can be called by authorized and non-authorized programs in z/OS, and C and JAVA. It’s very fast, and requires zEC12 GA2, zBC12, z13 or later. You must have certain PTFs applied. z15 and later machines have it built in. This is a standard format an

Re: finding DU-AL in a dump

2023-03-30 Thread Glen Garrison
So you are trying to determine, at any given point in time, if a task or srb has anything at all aleserv'ed? From a task perspective, you can find the du-al as we have walked through. But if someone running under that task has aleserv'ed to the pasn I know of no way you can identify that.

Re: Unzip on z/OS ?

2023-03-30 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 31/03/2023 8:05 am, Schmitt, Michael wrote: What if the requirement is to compress or decompress an area of memory, by calling something from a COBOL CICS transaction running on z/OS, in a way that it could be compatibly decompress or compress by a program running on another platform? For

Re: finding DU-AL in a dump

2023-03-30 Thread Joseph Reichman
I’m not interested in the PASN You want me to be specfic ok I have to Alets that I ALESERV ed To WORKUNIT=AL One is the Alet of another address space the other is a dataspace that I created in a SRB scope=all I put data into it running under TESTAUTH I cannt display it What I would like

Re: ASM call by value

2023-03-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:39:30 +0200, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: > >"call by value" in my understanding means, that values are passed, not >addressed. >With the mainframe (or z/OS and CMS) linkage convention, this means, >that values >and not addresses are in the reg1 parameter list. > What happens if th

Re: ASM call by value

2023-03-30 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
See answers below Am 31.03.2023 um 01:23 schrieb Paul Gilmartin: On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:39:30 +0200, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: "call by value" in my understanding means, that values are passed, not addressed. With the mainframe (or z/OS and CMS) linkage convention, this means, that values and not a

Re: Currency format suggestions, please?

2023-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
What, you mean like 1 18 48 90 88? Yeah, you'd think that would be confusing when trying to think of it as 113MB. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Black's Rule of Inverse Metaphysical Certainty: The surer you are about what happens when you die, the less I believe y

Re: ASM call by value

2023-03-30 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
The function @PRINTF4 is also shown in the IBM example: |/* this example demonstrates C/Assembler ILC */ /* part 3 of 3 (other files are CCNGCA2, CCNGCA4) */ /***\ * This routine is an interface between assembler code * * and the C/C++ librar

Re: ASM call by value

2023-03-30 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I just want to confirm that your understanding below is also my understanding. I'm not sure what others think call by value is, but I don't believe it matches with what C means when the term "call by value" is used. Or COBOL or PL/I, for that matter. From: IBM

Re: Currency format suggestions, please?

2023-03-30 Thread Jay Maynard
It's even weirder than that: it would be written 11 84 89 088. (Or with commas instead of spaces.) Look up the words "lakh" and "crore". On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 6:43 PM Bob Bridges wrote: > What, you mean like 1 18 48 90 88? Yeah, you'd think that would be > confusing when trying to think of it

Re: ASM call by value

2023-03-30 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
BTW: this comment and the pragma |#pragma linkage(_printf4,OS) /*function will be called from assembler| seems sort of ill-fated to me. At my old customer's site (which is again my customer since 2021), we always had the paradigm that every module must be able to call every other module, no m

Re: ASM call by value

2023-03-30 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Take a closer look. "@PRINTF4", rather than "printf", is being called by the CALLPRTF assembler module. ("Figure 2. Calling an intermediate C function from Assembler OS linkage") @PRINTF4 (actual name _printf4) is defined later on that page: /* this example demonstrates C/Assembler ILC */ /*

Re: ASM call by value

2023-03-30 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Am 31.03.2023 um 02:12 schrieb Frank Swarbrick: Because of the linkage pragma that specifies "OS" I imagine that, although the C code is defined as "pass by value", the OS linkage overrides it to be passed by reference. Just a guess; I don't have a C compiler. this is true ... see my other p

Re: ASM call by value

2023-03-30 Thread David Crayford
On 31/3/23 05:39, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: What code does the compiler generate when a long scalar such as _Decimal128 is passed by value? The C compiler - at least - puts the long scalar in the reg1 list where it uses more than 4 bytes. "call by value" in my understanding means, that values are

CASE constructs

2023-03-30 Thread Gibney, Dave
In the CASE of Software AG's language, Natural, it is WHEN ANY and WHEN NONE. ANY would execute after the code of the successful WHEN condition. Once in a while, I would wish it would execute before rather than after. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behal

Re: Currency format suggestions, please?

2023-03-30 Thread Tom Brennan
You got me thinking of a VTAM guy I worked with who was originally from Taiwan. He often had to think a bit when working with large numbers, and I remember he said where he came from the large ones were separated by 10,000 instead of 1000. On 3/30/2023 5:05 PM, Jay Maynard wrote: It's even w

Re: ASM call by value

2023-03-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 31 Mar 2023 01:42:20 +0200, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: > >Am 31.03.2023 um 01:23 schrieb Paul Gilmartin: >>> >> Hmmm. In >> >> ... >This @PRINTF4 cannot be the same as normal PRINTF; >it must be