I coined the term "stupidity above and beyond the call of duty" for such
incidents. Richard Feynman (ז״ל) would have referred to it as "cargo cult
systems programming".
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http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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They do, however, have the concept of dependency among packages. The
configuration control software that I mentioned does quite a bit more.
Are they as powerful as SMP? No, but they fill a similar niche.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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Can we detect if a specific feature is available in the current hardware?
Best Regards
Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
z/OS System Programmer
Em sábado, 11 de março de 2023 às 14:05:12 BRT, Paul Gilmartin
<042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> escreveu:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 00:0
In Linux, the package version, sub-version, and sub-sub-version level
indicate maintenance level and play a role roughly analogous to highest
PTF level, with each new maintenance level of a package fixing one or
more numbered bug reports, which are a rough analogy to an APAR. So
one package h
Yes, with STFL.
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Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2023 9:30 AM
This doc (url below) will give you a list of what is available/supported on
different generations of the current System z. However if you want to know
about a specific system you have then discuss with your IBM Rep who will be
able to give you a complete list of features (VPD) for your System.
On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 20:49:24 -0500, Jay Maynard wrote:
>Yes, there are indeed Linux package managers. They don't get beyond the
>"replace the entire package" level. THey have no concept of individual
>fixes and their interactions.
>
There's a hazard. Customers come to fear possible collateral da
commenting on previous merged emails:
> Yes, there are indeed Linux package managers. They don't get beyond the
> "replace the entire package" level. THey have no concept of individual
> fixes and their interactions.
> Are they as powerful as SMP? No, but they fill a similar niche.
They are more
Or you just could do an STFLE and check the facility bits...
Joe
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 10:52 AM P H <
04843e86df79-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> This doc (url below) will give you a list of what is available/supported
> on different generations of the current System z. However if
The major difference is that Rocket offer enterprise support for their
open source tools which a lot of customers deem mandatory. YMMV.
On 14/3/23 22:09, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
You no longer need to get the open tools for z/OS from Rocket Software -
there is a new player in town - the z/OS Open
On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 09:30:33 -0700, Michael Stein wrote:
>...
>Then a SMP build process would build or rebuild the targets needing
>changes from the current configuration to the new desired configuration.
>So any PTF could be removed, at least as long as the pile of MODs still
>contained the ol
Regarding:
AGAIN TIMEUSED ...
JNZ Again
Versus
AGAIN TIMEUSED ..
CFI R15,8
BE AGAIN
I used CFI because it is an immediate instruction.That instruction is not
going to need the literal pool. I also used that instruction because it is my
understanding that TIMEUSED
Use the IBM-supplied IEABRCX copy member (Found in SYS1.MACLIB; IEABRCX DEFINE,
then IEABRCX ENABLE) to convert base-reg branches to relative branches.
I also recommend using SYSSTATE ARCHLVL=2 or even 3 if your hardware is current
enough. YMMV.
Be careful using BAKR/PR - you must use them in
+1 … that is one of the biggest challenges for any tools. Mainframe customers
(and even distributed) want provenance of code and a throat to choke.
Matt Hogstrom
m...@hogstrom.org
How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg? Four.
Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg.
- Abr
On 15/03/2023 8:33 am, Jay Maynard wrote:
That's because SMP/E and its power are only truly present in the z/OS and
predecessors world. Everyone else thinks of applying maintenance as a
matter of replacing the entire product, instead of individual fixes that
are automatically maintained and manag
On 3/15/2023 3:15 PM, Andrew Rowley wrote:
The problem with individual fixes rather than full replacement is that
it means the interface for every individually replaceable component is
fixed.
Not true. It simply means if you change the (non-fixed) interface, you
must re-issue all affected
On 16/03/2023 9:33 am, Ed Jaffe wrote:
Not true. It simply means if you change the (non-fixed) interface, you
must re-issue all affected components.
OK yes... I did say that you could change the interface with
corresponding pre and co-reqs. And if you just want to change one of the
dependent
Hi
I have been abending for 2 days doing different things to write abend
messages snaps dataset so first let me post the dcb
DRDMPDD DCB DDNAME=DBGRDUMP,DSORG=PS,RECFM=VBA,MACRF=(W),BLKSIZE=882X
,LRECL=125,EXLST=*-*
The exlst is populated before open with JFCB ex
On 14/3/23 15:00, Robin Atwood wrote:
@David I take your point but I fear my management won't see it that way,
reinventing the wheel and all that.
I can relate to that. Our products get branded and sold by IBM. Back in
the day they had a no open source policy and we needed to pass a
certific
The first HW is the length for both BDW and RDW.
BDW DS0H
DCY(*-SOF)
DCH'0'
DCY(*-SOF)
DCH'0'
DCC' '
SOF EQU *
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of
Joseph Reichm
Thought only RDW was in the upper half it includes 4 bytes for the BDW
Thank you I’ll try it out
> On Mar 15, 2023, at 8:39 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> The first HW is the length for both BDW and RDW.
>
> BDW DS0H
> DCY(*-SOF)
> DCH'0'
> DCY(*-
Andrew, I have been out for a while. Is there a replacement for SMPE ?
Warren
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 06:15:29 PM EDT, Andrew Rowley
wrote:
On 15/03/2023 8:33 am, Jay Maynard wrote:
> That's because SMP/E and its power are only truly present in the z/OS and
> predecessors world
> TESTMESS DCX'0005000540F1F2F3F4'
* Corrected to:
TESTMESS DC X'000D000940F1F2F3F4'
TESTBL DCX'000D' 4 + sum of record lengths
TEDTRL DCX'0009' 4 + Data length = 9
TESTDATA DC X'40F1F2F3F4' C'b1234' so length = 5
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 6:23 PM Joseph Reichma
On 16/03/2023 12:01 pm, Warren Brown wrote:
Andrew, I have been out for a while. Is there a replacement for SMPE ?
Warren
There have always been ways to deliver software without using SMP/E e.g.
datasets dumped to tape. As people have noted, you can also deliver what
is effectively a full re
Thanks
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 09:15:59 PM EDT, Andrew Rowley
wrote:
On 16/03/2023 12:01 pm, Warren Brown wrote:
> Andrew, I have been out for a while. Is there a replacement for SMPE ?
> Warren
There have always been ways to deliver software without using SMP/E e.g.
datasets
On 3/15/23 18:38:33, Seymour J Metz wrote:
The first HW is the length for both BDW and RDW.
ITYM
BDW DS0H
DCY(*-SOF)Y(SOF-*)
DCH'0'
DCY(*-SOF)Y(SOF-*)
DCH'0'
DCC' 'C'1Skip to c
LRECL=125
TESTBL DCX'0081' 4 + sum of record lengths = 129
TESTRL DCX'007D' 4 + Data length = 125
TESTCC DC X'40'
TESTDATA DC CL120'+1+2+3+4+5X
'+6+7+8+9+A+B+C'
On Wed, Mar 1
On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 at 14:48, Chris P Fried <
04a1f5bf8721-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Regarding:
>
> AGAIN TIMEUSED ...
> JNZ Again
>
> Versus
> AGAIN TIMEUSED ..
> CFI R15,8
> BE AGAIN
>
>
> I used CFI because it is an immediate instruction.That instruction
On z/OS 2.2 or later, the result from STFLE is stored in the PSA at offset 200
(X'C8') - look at IHAPSAE field name FLCEFACILITIESLIST (and this is a PI
field)
Kind regards
John
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