Re: apply unix command under 3.4 to pathname dir

On 3/6/22 04:33, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 15:19:47 -0500, Erik Janssen wrote: Ah yes, it is actually on the panel; 'Use the pathname substitution character !' :-) That what I was looking for, I already thought that there had to be some way, I just didn't notice it. I was alrea

Re: data set deletion problem

On Tue, 31 May 2022 13:00:58 +, Peter Relson wrote: >As far as I know, XCFAS would not allocate any data set other than what XCF >itself needs (perhaps some sort of couple data set) Yes it is ! These are alternate couple data sets. -

Re: JES2 spool outputs

As some of us has mentioned about $DLIMITS(SPOOL),LONG command and found it interesting ...so i thought to drop an additional point here...if you get time read JES2 Privilege resource as that's where this command is mentioned with some of the nice way of getting spool shortage situation allevia

Re: Publicly available site for SA23-7832-13 zArch PoOP for z16?

https://linux.mainframe.blog/zarchitecture-principles-of-operation has a link to that version and older versions of it.   Alan   -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Sent: Jun 2, 2022 9:39 PM To: Subject: Publicly available site for SA23-7832-13 zArch PoOP for z16?   Ev

New IBM Community Blog - ISPF List/Log Viewing

I think y'all will enjoy this new blog https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck 2/2022/06/02/ispf-list-and-log-improved-access Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck "Worry more about your character than your

Re: New IBM Community Blog - ISPF List/Log Viewing

For those of us who are searching: shorturl.at/HNPQ9 > On 3 Jun 2022, at 13:20, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > > I think y'all will enjoy this new blog > > https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck > 2/2022/06/02/ispf-list-and-log-improved

Re: JES2 spool outputs

I found this link https://developer.ibm.com/articles/jes2-privilege-support/ to the article, brilliant, thanks Ravi. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with t

Re: New IBM Community Blog - ISPF List/Log Viewing

On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 13:25:04 +0200, René Jansen wrote: >For those of us who are searching: shorturl.at/HNPQ9 > Why not just: ? I distrust shortcut

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: New IBM Community Blog - ISPF List/Log Viewing

I couldn't get René's link to work. If you can't either, try this one. shorturl.at/uwPSY Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of René Jansen Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 6:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: New IBM Community Blog

Re: [EXTERNAL] New IBM Community Blog - ISPF List/Log Viewing

Ha, that does not work either. Fortunately Paul sent a link that was not cut off anywhere. René. > On 3 Jun 2022, at 14:49, Pommier, Rex wrote: > > I couldn't get René's link to work. If you can't either, try this one. > > shorturl.at/uwPSY > > Rex > > -Original Message- > From: I

Re: [EXTERNAL] New IBM Community Blog - ISPF List/Log Viewing

Interesting, I tested mine before posting it and it worked fine. Now it doesn't. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of René Jansen Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 8:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] New IBM Community Blog - ISPF

Re: Publicly available site for SA23-7832-13 zArch PoOP for z16?

Thanks for that link, but those are all the ones up to the -12 edition, not including the new -13 edition yet. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Alan Young Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 6:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Publicly avai

IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/31/ibm_ordered_to_pay_16/ Tsk. IBM appears to have been caught red-handed here. -- zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive acc

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

I doubt IBM acted without the approval of AT&T. IBM rejected the decision and said it intends to appeal the ruling. "This verdict is entirely unsupported by fact and law, and IBM intends to pursue complete reversal on appeal," IBM said in an emailed statement. "IBM acted in good faith in every

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

Um. AT&T's approval or otherwise isn't relevant. They're not a party to this. On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 10:41 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I doubt IBM acted without the approval of AT&T. > > IBM rejected the decision and said it intends to appeal the rul

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

It’s AT&T’s shop. They decided they wanted IBM’s products instead of BMC. Imagine your shop with multiple vendors where the vendors decide not to replace each others software. THATS illegal. Restraint of trade. I guarantee it’ll be overturned. But, we know your agenda. You’re an IBM hater. Sen

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

No, you don't know his agenda. While I expect this to be overturned on appeal, he is correct that AT&T is not a party to the suit, although I wouldn't be surprised if they filed a friend off the court brief. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 _

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

It’s collusion & illegal. Collusion is a non-competitive, secret, and sometimes illegal agreement between rivals which attempts to disrupt the market's equilibrium. He always bashes IBM. It’s his MO. IBM will win on appeal.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, June 3, 2022, 11:10 AM, Se

Re: Publicly available site for SA23-7832-13 zArch PoOP for z16?

>> Thanks for that link, but those are all the ones up to the -12 edition, not >> including the new -13 edition yet. Peter, Did you try this link ? https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/zarchitecture-principles-operation Thanks, Kolusu ---

Re: Publicly available site for SA23-7832-13 zArch PoOP for z16?

I clicked on the link and downloaded SA22-7832-13 with no problem. Page ii contains the following: "Fourteenth Edition (May, 2022) This edition obsoletes and replaces z/Architecture Principles of Operation, SA22-7832-12." It also contains the following disclaimer to keep the lawyers happy: "T

Re: Publicly available site for SA23-7832-13 zArch PoOP for z16?

You cannot order the hardcopy AFAIK. IBM went out of the printing business years ago. So I guess the definitive version is a version that does not exist. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Retired Mainframer Sent

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

I am not taking pro- or "bashing" sides here. How can any outsourcer agree not to replace product family X with product family Y, and then agree to run a datacenter the way a customer wants? IBM apparently promised BMC they would not unhook their products, and then promised AT&T to do what they

Re: Publicly available site for SA23-7832-13 zArch PoOP for z16?

That same page has a link to the -13 edition, in parentheses, in the paragraph above all the others. No ResourceLink login required. On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 14:29:59 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >Thanks for that link, but those are all the ones up to the -12 edition, not >including the new -13

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

I suspect you'll be called an IBM hater anyway :) And probably me too just for posting on the subject, even though IBM has indirectly supported me and my family since 1983. On 6/3/2022 9:13 AM, Charles Mills wrote: I am not taking pro- or "bashing" sides here. --

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

Exactly. I’m way more concerned with the collusion of 2 software vendors agreeing not to cannibalize the others business.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, June 3, 2022, 12:12 PM, Charles Mills wrote: I am not taking pro- or "bashing" sides here. How can any outsourcer agree not t

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

IBM has supported *me *indirectly since before I was born. Bill mistakes critical thinking for bias, and reveals his own lack of the former and excess of the latter instead, alas. Charles's question is incisive, and reflects IBM's dilemma. However, the solution would have been to renegotiate or di

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

LOLOLOLOL yeah, you’re a critical thinking master. Anyone with Legal experience (me) knows this will be overturned.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, June 3, 2022, 12:59 PM, zMan wrote: IBM has supported *me *indirectly since before I was born. Bill mistakes critical thinking for bi

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Re: New IBM Community Blog - ISPF List/Log Viewing

The link gives me Page not found. De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List en nombre de Lionel B. Dyck Enviado: viernes, 3 de junio de 2022 08:20 Para: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Asunto: [EXTERNAL] New IBM Community Blog - ISPF List/Log Viewing I think y'all will enjoy

Re: New IBM Community Blog - ISPF List/Log Viewing

It was split across lines. Join the two lines and it works. Eric Rossman, CISSP ICSF Cryptographic Security Development z/OS Enabling Technologies edros...@us.ibm.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Horacio Luis Villa Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 1:47 P

Re: Publicly available site for SA23-7832-13 zArch PoOP for z16?

The link for 013 is embedded in the paragraph text at the top of the page. http://publibfp.dhe.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/a227832d.pdf   -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Sent: Jun 3, 2022 7:30 AM To: Subject: Re: Publicly available site for SA23-7832-13 zArch PoOP for z16?  

Re: Publicly available site for SA23-7832-13 zArch PoOP for z16?

Google z/Architecture Principles of Operation SA22-7832-13 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Godfrey Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 11:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Publicly available site for SA23-78

Re: [EXTERNAL] New IBM Community Blog - ISPF List/Log Viewing

On Jun 3, 2022, at 07:23:18, René Jansen wrote: > > Ha, that does not work either. Fortunately Paul sent a link that was not cut > off anywhere. > "urldefense.com" is another thing I'd distrust. What's their business model? They get to inspect too much of your web traffic. >> On 3 Jun 2022, at

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

Well, #1 we are a bunch of jailhouse lawyers without even the source documents in front of us. Who knows EXACTLY what IBM agreed, or how it is effectively modified by the operation of law, or what exactly transpired between IBM and AT&T. I *thought* I read that AT&T's "unhook BMC initiative pre

Logstreams

Has anyone figured out how to compute the number of cylinders for STG_SIZE(119880) LS_SIZE(119880) Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 at 14:16, Charles Mills wrote: > Well, #1 we are a bunch of jailhouse lawyers without even the source > documents in front of us. Who knows EXACTLY what IBM agreed, or how it is > effectively modified by the operation of law, or what exactly transpired > between IBM and AT&T

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

My brother is a computer forensic consultant for a law firm, and he mines and compares source code for a living. He maintains it's (mostly) not a matter of proving who is right and wrong, but which legal team makes a mistake. David -Original Message- From: Tony Harminc To: IBM-MAIN@LISTS

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

Saying it will or won’t be overturned is just as silly as insinuating IBM will now hand over 1.6 billion at this stage of the proceedings. Yet, the headline states and the OP assumes exactly that. Gleefully I might add.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, June 3, 2022, 3:09 PM, Tony H

Re: Logstreams

Does "56+ kbytes per track" help? What are those numbers? Kilobytes? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 12:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Logstreams Has anyo

Re: [EXTERNAL] New IBM Community Blog - ISPF List/Log Viewing

On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 at 14:05, Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > "urldefense.com" is another thing I'd distrust. What's their business model? I think there are roughly three business models for these things. 1) Like Microsoft's safelinks.com, urldefense[sic]

Re: Publicly available site for SA23-7832-13 zArch PoOP for z16?

Yes I did try that link. When you click on the PDF link it sends you to the ResourceLink site, which requires login. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sri h Kolusu Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 11:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Pub

Re: Publicly available site for SA23-7832-13 zArch PoOP for z16?

Bingo! Thank you , I missed that link when I first went to the page. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Godfrey Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 12:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Publicly available site for SA23-7832-13 zArch PoOP

Re: Publicly available site for SA23-7832-13 zArch PoOP for z16?

Yep, I got it from Bill G.'s reply, thanks. PEBKAC. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Alan Young Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 2:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Publicly available site for SA23-7832-13 zArch PoOP for z16? The link f

Re: [EXTERNAL] New IBM Community Blog - ISPF List/Log Viewing

Some of us do not get to choose whether the links we post get converted to urldevense.com instead. Corporate email servers do that without consulting us. What I do us "reply" to the email and then cut and paste the "real" url into my browser (the part between double-underscores). Peter -O

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 at 15:49, Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Saying it will or won’t be overturned is just as silly as insinuating IBM > will now hand over 1.6 billion at this stage of the proceedings. Yet, the > headline states and the OP assumes exactly

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

And they’re appealing. So no payment will be made yet. Do you not understand how courts work? Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, June 3, 2022, 5:09 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 at 15:49, Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Saying it

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

https://www.govinfo.gov/app/search/%7B%22query%22%3A%2217-CV-2254%20bmc%22%2C%22offset%22%3A0%7D 17-cv-2254 bmc for the case documents. On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 1:16 PM Charles Mills wrote: > > Well, #1 we are a bunch of jailhouse lawyers without even the source > documents in front of us. Who kn

Re: New IBM Community Blog - ISPF List/Log Viewing

I did that. It leads me to this page: https://community.ibm.com/community/user/blogs/lionel-dyck and I get "page not found" De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List en nombre de Eric D Rossman Enviado: viernes, 3 de junio de 2022 14:48 Para: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU A

Re: New IBM Community Blog - ISPF List/Log Viewing

That's only the first half of the link. I'm splitting it across 3 lines to make it clearer (in case your mail program is trying to rewrite URLs. https:// community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/lionel-dyck 2/2022/06/02/ispf-list-and-log-improved-access Eric Rossman, CISSP ICSF

Re: New IBM Community Blog - ISPF List/Log Viewing

OK, thanks! Now I've got the page. De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List en nombre de Eric D Rossman Enviado: viernes, 3 de junio de 2022 18:55 Para: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Asunto: [EXTERNAL] Re: New IBM Community Blog - ISPF List/Log Viewing That's only the firs

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 at 17:11, Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > And they’re appealing. So no payment will be made yet. Do you not understand > how courts work? Do you not understand how to read? Tony H. --

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

I read just fine. There’s more than just the headline. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, June 3, 2022, 6:58 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 at 17:11, Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > And they’re appealing. So no payment will be made

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

No, Bill, you don't, or at least you didn't in this case. I don’t mind explaining it to you, if you really missed it. If you don't care, I'll leave it. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The cities are for money but the high-up hills are purely for the soul. -from

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

Explain it to me Bob. I gotta hear this. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, June 3, 2022, 8:02 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: No, Bill, you don't, or at least you didn't in this case.  I don’t mind explaining it to you, if you really missed it.  If you don't care, I'll leave it. --- Bob Br

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

Well, look at the history (I saved it below): You: the headline states and the OP assumes exactly that [IBM will now hand over 1.6 billion]... Tony: ...no. The subject line is exactly "IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC". You said (among other things) that the articles headline states that IBM

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

Tony thinks IBM is handing over 1.6 billion. Because the judge ordered it. In the article it states IBM is going to appeal. Which means they don’t pay anything, yet. Once they file a Notice of Appeal, usually within 30 days, with documentation of why they think the trial judge was wrong, the app

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

Uhm, Bill...where, exactly, did Tony (I assume you mean Tony Harminc, right?) say that IBM was going to hand over $1.6e+09? Citation, please. With quote. On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 8:54 PM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Tony thinks IBM is handing over 1.6 bill

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 at 15:49, Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Saying it will or won’t be overturned is just as silly as insinuating IBM > will now hand over 1.6 billion at this stage of the proceedings. Yet, the > headline states and the OP assumes exactly

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

I hate to chime in here, but I believe you both are saying that "ordered" is not equivalent to the act of actually distributing the funds > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2022 7:04 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.U

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 9:06 PM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote, in reply to my request for a citation that shows Tony Harminc thinks that IBM *will* hand over $1.6e+09: > On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 at 15:49, Bill Johnson > <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.ed

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

That’s exactly what I’m saying. Until the appeals process plays out. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, June 3, 2022, 10:12 PM, Gibney, Dave <03b5261cfd78-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: I hate to chime in here, but I believe you both are saying that "ordered" is not equiva

Re: IBM ordered to pay $1.6b to BMC

Which is no more than what Tony said. Sounds like you two are in violent agreement. On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 9:15 PM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > That’s exactly what I’m saying. Until the appeals process plays out. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > >