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Rob Scott
Rocket Software
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Peter
Sent: 18 September 2020 04:43
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Subject: Searching MLPA module
EXTERNAL EMAI
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 07:43:21 +0400 Peter wrote:
:>Is there any utility which can help to search the loaded MLPA module ? Is
:>it possible to load MLPA dynamically by avoiding IPL?(apology if this a
:>ignorant question)
:>We have a product which loads via MLPA and we just trying to understand if
Hi,
I was asked a question today that I honestly don't know how to answer. The
programmer has a (very large) series of jobs that generate fiche tapes that get
created and have a expiration date but never are cataloged (because they all
have exactly the same DSN). So over time, they ended up w
On 2020-09-18 5:36 PM, Brian Westerman wrote:
would dynamically make it HLQ.FICHE.TAPE.D091720.T1123
I don't suppose the hard-coded data set name can be changed to include
dynamic system symbols in new low-level qualifiers which would be
resolved to the current date and time?
Cheers,
Greg
Why can't his jobs generate dsns like HLQ.FICHE.TAPE.D091720.T1123 ?
Can use system symbols to generate the date and time in the JCL output DD.
Brian
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 15:36, Brian Westerman
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was asked a question today that I honestly don't know how to answer.
> The pro
Is there any utility which can help to search the loaded MLPA module ?
What do you mean by "search the loaded MLPA module"?
A program can use CSVQUERY to locate the address of a module in LPA
(whether PLPA, MLPA, FLPA, or dynamic LPA), just as it can use LOAD and
then DELETE (CSVQUERY typica
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 17:34:17 +0800, Brian Fraser wrote:
>Why can't his jobs generate dsns like HLQ.FICHE.TAPE.D091720.T1123 ?
>Can use system symbols to generate the date and time in the JCL output DD.
>
I understand that system symbols are not supported in JCL DSNs because of
o ambiguity betwee
Peter,
There are some 3rd party products that load modules to modified LPA (CSA or
ECSA) as they start. They do it dynamically so if they don't start, you
save the storage.
ITschak
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On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 02:36:24 -0500 Brian Westerman
wrote:
:>I was asked a question today that I honestly don't know how to answer. The
programmer has a (very large) series of jobs that generate fiche tapes that get
created and have a expiration date but never are cataloged (because they all
h
Classification: HCL Internal
Paul,
That is incorrect.
DYNAMIC system symbols were not supported until JES2 V2. (Z/OS 2.1+). The
installation gets to define where symbols are resolved via JESPARMS
STATIC system symbols have been supported for "eons". (e.g. SYSDATE, SYSIME,
SYSUID). Init and Tu
Classification: HCL Internal
As I am sure you know, ACS routines only apply at creation time and don’t have
the power to alter the DSN anyway.
ISTR a (fairly recent (z/OS 1+)) modification that will allow creation and
cataloging of a 2nd dataset with the same name and avoiding the NOT CATLGD 2
We have a MLPA module from adabas which got loaded But we aren't able to
trace from which dataset it was loaded.
Is there a way to know the dataset name from which or where it is saved ?
On Fri, 18 Sep, 2020, 4:16 pm Itschak Mugzach, <
0305158ad67d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Pet
On Sep 18, 2020, at 2:36 AM, Brian Westerman
wrote:
>
> I can't think of a way to do that in an acs routine, or any other simple way,
> and I'm hoping that someone has an idea that might apply here. I think I can
> alter almost anything about the dataset, except the name. Is there something
Apology for being ingorant .. if LPA and MLPA are same then why are they
being placed in a different parmlibs ? Aren't any difference between MLPA
and LPA ?
On Fri, 18 Sep, 2020, 5:56 pm Peter, wrote:
> We have a MLPA module from adabas which got loaded But we aren't able to
> trace from which d
>The problem is that they want to know if there is a way to automatically
catalog datasets at creation time, to which I told them we could, but only
1 of them because you can't catalog two datasets with the same name.
Generate the RENAME cards in the same program/JCL to rename the file from
HLQ.FI
MLPA is in CSA and is modifiable while lpa is read only.
בתאריך יום ו׳, 18 בספט׳ 2020, 17:17, מאת Peter :
> Apology for being ingorant .. if LPA and MLPA are same then why are they
> being placed in a different parmlibs ? Aren't any difference between MLPA
> and LPA ?
>
> On Fri, 18 Sep, 2020, 5
No, Everything in FLPA, MLPA and PLPA is LPA.
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On 2020-09-19 12:17 AM, Peter wrote:
if LPA and MLPA are same
LPA covers PLPA, MLPA, FLPA and DLPA.
PLPA is built when CLPA is specified at IPL time.
MLPA and FLPA are built every IPL time when required - they may have
zero size if no modules are loaded there - the modules to be load in
MLP
Mike designed REXX as a programming language. JCL is not and was never intended
to be a programming language. This is something that should be handled in the
environment that creates and submits the JCL.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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//*
//EXPORT EXPORT SYMLIST=(MNTH,DY,YR)
//SETSYMBL SET MNTH=&LMON,DY=&LDAY,YR=&LYR4
//*
HLQ.FICHE.TAPE.D&MNTH&DY&YR = HLQ.FICHE.TAPE.D09182020
Thank You and Please Be Safe!
Len Sasso
Syste
Well, if they want to use a chainsaw to open a bag of peanuts, you could write
a JES exit, but the proper way to handle it is for the process that creates the
JCL to generate a unique name. If they're using ISPF it's super easy to do it
with File Tailoring, and many production control programs h
Classification: HCL Internal
See my earlier. IMO, the answer is Not Possible
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Brian Westerman
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 2:36 AM
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Subject: rename a dataset in acs routine?
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Thats incorrect. MLPA is read only.
Joe
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 9:42 AM Itschak Mugzach <
0305158ad67d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> MLPA is in CSA and is modifiable while lpa is read only.
>
> בתאריך יום ו׳, 18 בספט׳ 2020, 17:17, מאת Peter :
>
> > Apology for being ingorant .. i
By default, yes. OP can specify the NOPROT option on the MLPA=xx specification
in IEASYSxx.
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On Friday,
Is there a way to get a mixed-case string substituted into SYSIN data using
"EXPORT SYMLIST=*" and the "DD *,SYMBOLS=(JCLONLY)" facility?
I'm trying to download files from an FTP server to z/OS using a PROC similar to
this:
//*-
//FTPTEST PROC FTPFILE=
//
Try using 3 ticks.
FTPFILE='''lowercase'''
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 13:12 Wendell Lovewell <
01e9c0ee0673-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Is there a way to get a mixed-case string substituted into SYSIN data
> using "EXPORT SYMLIST=*" and the "DD *,SYMBOLS=(JCLONLY)" facility?
>
> I'm t
The MLPA is key zero and it's bad form to put nonrefreshable code there, but it
is not always read only. Unlike PLPA, it is subject to page out.
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Understood
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From: John McKown
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 1:33 PM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Substituting SYSIN variables via EXPORT SYMLIST containing
mixed-case values
Try using 3 ticks.
FTPFILE='''lowercase''
"The MLPA is read-only, unless NOPROT is specified on the MLPA system
parameter."
So, the default is read-only.
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieae100/mlpae.htm
Joe
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 1:43 PM Seymour J Metz wrote:
> The MLPA is key zero and i
Yes, and NOPROT should be used only until you clean up the code, but at least
IBM no longer has nonrefreshable code in the LPA.
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Monk
Sent: F
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//FTP PROC
//*
//PS0010 EXEC PGM=FTP,REGION=6M
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//OUTPUT DD SYSOUT=*
//*
//INPUTDD DUMMY
Well John, to risk stating the obvious, "You're a genius!" :)
Thanks a lot!
Wendell
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On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 13:12:01 -0500, Wendell Lovewell wrote:
>Is there a way to get a mixed-case string substituted into SYSIN data using
>"EXPORT SYMLIST=*" and the "DD *,SYMBOLS=(JCLONLY)" facility?
>
Rules to remember:
o The JCL reader/converter/interpreter *always* takes SYSIN (SYSTSIN,SYSUT
Renaming a tape? The last 17 characters are on the label of the tape
so it must remain the same or any use will result in a Tape DSN name
mismatch. You will also need to Update TMS, RMM, and any tape
management system that uses the data set name. MUCH easier to just
create new tape correctly and
I'm all for editing the JCL, but they say there are far too many to do at one
time, (and not screw it up)
n Fri, 18 Sep 2020 19:32:01 +1000, Greg Price
wrote:
>On 2020-09-18 5:36 PM, Brian Westerman wrote:
>> would dynamically make it HLQ.FICHE.TAPE.D091720.T1123
>
>I don't suppose the hard-c
They would like an approach that didn't include editing the thousands of JCL
sets.
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 17:34:17 +0800, Brian Fraser wrote:
>Why can't his jobs generate dsns like HLQ.FICHE.TAPE.D091720.T1123 ?
>Can use system symbols to generate the date and time in the JCL output DD.
>
>Brian
dealing with the existing tapes is doable via a rexx exec that submits a series
of IEBGENER, but it's the JCL that they want (preferably SMS) to deal with.
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 07:12:15 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 17:34:17 +0800, Brian Fraser wrote:
>
>>Why can't his jobs ge
I agree, but that decision was made 30 years ago.
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 15:28:40 +0300, Binyamin Dissen
wrote:
>On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 02:36:24 -0500 Brian Westerman
> wrote:
>
>:>I was asked a question today that I honestly don't know how to answer. The
>programmer has a (very large) series of jo
I don't see that you can do that with tapes, the hdr1 won't match the new DSN.
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 07:19:33 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote:
>>The problem is that they want to know if there is a way to automatically
>catalog datasets at creation time, to which I told them we could, but only
>1 of them
Changing the JCL is my preferred method, but they would like an "easier" way.
Also, D09182020 is 9 characters, so would cause a JCL error. But I understand
what you meant. :)
Brian
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 16:37:30 +, Sasso, Len wrote:
>
//*
//E
Actually I'm leaning towards the JES or SMF UJI exit as well. File tailoring
doesn't help in this case because most of the JCL doesn't get submitted via TSO.
Brian
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 16:41:29 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>Well, if they want to use a chainsaw to open a bag of peanuts, you cou
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 23:05:04 -0500, Brian Westerman wrote:
>They would like an approach that didn't include editing the thousands of JCL
>sets.
>
Thousands!? Not just one with parameters!?
The design is wrong. It will remain broken until it's fixed.
Facing a similar requirement once, I appen
JES exit 6
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On
> Behalf Of Brian Westerman
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 9:05 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: rename a dataset in acs routine?
>
> They would like an approach that didn't include editing the t
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