Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-20 Thread Martin Packer
I might be about to open that can of worms permanently (SMF and REXX) ... :-) Seriously, I have a few tips and tricks on processing SMF with REXX. And I’m aiming to open source something. It’s not quite ready and it will be the START of something, not a finished journey. (The idea being others cou

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-20 Thread David Crayford
Oh no! Run for the hills :) Good luck with that! I wouldn't fancy processing an SMF 110 CMF record (with a dictionary) in REXX! I've done it in Java and that was onerous. On 2020-03-20 3:16 PM, Martin Packer wrote: I might be about to open that can of worms permanently (SMF and REXX) ... :-)

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-20 Thread Martin Packer
To reveal a little more, what I might open source is a particular RMF SMF record - with its own quirks. :-) But only a few per interval. Which narrows it right down. :-) Cheers, Martin Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: mar

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-20 Thread David Crayford
Thanks everybody for the valuable help. I've finished this work now and I've learned a few things along the way. * CLIST has some OK features but it's a terrible programming language that should be consigned to the dustbin (arrays using substitution variables, really?) * A lot of high value RE

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
Or why ANSI I/O should be limited to Unix. One of the worst things about CLIST is the extraordinary proliferation of apostrophes it can force, especially since the enhanced CLIST (anybody remember that) in OS/VS2 R3.6. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 _

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-20 Thread David Crayford
And lots of folks will find value in your open source effort. Almost 20 years ago we wrote a REXX API for processing IMS log records https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSAVJ9_2.4.0/alzu-rexx.html. It didn't really take off so we dropped it from products based upon IMSPI. It's a very di

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-20 Thread David Crayford
Not to mention VSAM! I implemented full MVS file system support in Lua in a couple of days wrapping C stdio http://lua4z.com/doc/modules/io.html. I work for Rocket Software and we have been discussing implementing an I/O module for the native z/OS file system but there are not many paying cust

SQL query interface for catalogs?

2020-03-20 Thread John McKown
I do tend to come up with weird ideas. But I really like query languages, especially SQL. So I got to wondering if anyone else would like a query language, perhaps based on SQL, which uses the z/OS catalog structure as a data source? It would most likely use IGGCSI00 as its base driver code. Or is

Forcing Logonproc USSMSG10

2020-03-20 Thread Jake Anderson
Hello Apologies for the dummy question Is it possible to enforce logon proc name while we so LOGON APPLID(USERID) ? As am unable to get into TSO login screen where I can modify the TSOPROC value Jake -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: Forcing Logonproc USSMSG10

2020-03-20 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
Use RACF to protect the TSOPROC general resource profile. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jake Anderson Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 10:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Forcing Logonproc USSMSG10 [External Email. Exercise caution when click

Re: Updating CustomPac Dialog libraries

2020-03-20 Thread Marna WALLE
Sadly, if you must upgrade your CustomPac Dialogs for your ServerPac order, it isn't possible to do it ahead of time. The reason is because the dialogs are shipped with your order, and delivered on Shopz. Until your order is completed, you won't have the dialogs available to download on Shopz.

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-20 Thread R.S.
W dniu 19.03.2020 o 18:30, Jousma, David pisze: We have been moved to Work from home for the foreseeable future. We have company provided laptop connecting via VPN, and softphone so my office number rings wherever my laptop is connected. Seems to be working out pretty well. It’s the WEBEX

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-20 Thread R.S.
W dniu 19.03.2020 o 20:46, Steve Beaver pisze: My curiosity is how are these companies that have forced everyone to WFH going to get people back on-site In a couple of months without a MAJOR REVOLT on their hands Things will change. People will change their mind, and their opinion about WFH.

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-20 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 10:02 AM R.S. wrote: > W dniu 19.03.2020 o 20:46, Steve Beaver pisze: > > My curiosity is how are these companies that have forced everyone to WFH > going to get people back on-site > > In a couple of months without a MAJOR REVOLT on their hands > > Things will change. Peo

Re: Forcing Logonproc USSMSG10

2020-03-20 Thread R.S.
W dniu 20.03.2020 o 15:35, Jake Anderson pisze: Hello Apologies for the dummy question Is it possible to enforce logon proc name while we so LOGON APPLID(USERID) ? As am unable to get into TSO login screen where I can modify the TSOPROC value When typing LOGON APPLID you choose TSO as one of

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
No, you don't need a big PC with a comfortable keyboard and screen that doesn't force continual scrolling, but it sure makes life more pleasant and more productive. It never ceases to amaze me how people put up with terrible human factors. Take the typical laptop keyboard - please! -- Shmuel (

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-20 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2020-03-20 11:47, Seymour J Metz wrote: Take the typical laptop keyboard - please! Sadly, it's hard to decide what counts as "typical". I use four laptops regularly, and all have the non-alphanumeric keys laid out significantly differently. -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software Intern

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-20 Thread Jousma, David
I haven’t seen a pager since I started in this business. When was the last time you were over here Radoslaw, you might be aging yourself there... 😊 Pretty much everyone has cell phones, but I doubt that many are company issued any more. For us they are not. No biggie, I'd have one anyway,

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-20 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
FWIW, my WFH setup for many years now includes an MS Natural keyboard and a comfortable Logitech gaming mouse that I use a USB3 switch to change between my small work laptop, large home desktop and medium-sized home laptop. IOGear makes the USB3 switch, which can handle up to 4 inputs switched

Re: SQL query interface for catalogs?

2020-03-20 Thread Massimo Biancucci
John, it seems a nice idea anyway I tend to be cautious in interfacing catalog. In my experience there's something that can go wrong. Years ago we experienced some random delay in DB2 subsystem without having (after tenth of calls to IBM and dump and so on) the ability to diagnose the problem. Af

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
What counts as typical is lousy human factors and the song "You'll do it my way." Every laptop that I have seen in the last decade has had the key set back;I even saw a keyboard with no touchpad but the keys still set back for the nonexistent touchpad. When I can get a large screen and an AT ke

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-20 Thread Steve Beaver
In my work setup I have 3 Monitors and 2 computers and a Logitech 850 Mouse and Keyboard. For me to switch I have to move the Dongle. Can anyone suggest a piece of gear I can put a pair of USB-A plugs onto a switch box and have my dongle on the other side with A button to switch back and forth?

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-20 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 at 11:02, R.S. wrote: > W dniu 19.03.2020 o 20:46, Steve Beaver pisze: > > My curiosity is how are these companies that have forced everyone to WFH > going to get people back on-site > > In a couple of months without a MAJOR REVOLT on their hands > > Things will change. People

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-20 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
IOGear GUS434 - 4x4 USB 3.0 Peripheral Sharing Switch -- 67.18 USD from NewEgg. They also make GUS432 2x4 to switch 4 USB devices between 2 computers. 63.16 USD from NewEgg. Button provided to switch between computers for both versions. HTH Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainfra

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-20 Thread Mark Regan
Do a search on amazon.com for "usb switch" and you find some. *Mark T. Regan, K8MTR* CTO1 USNR-Retired, 1969-1991 Nationwide Insurance, Retired, 1986-2017 On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 2:44 PM Farley, Peter x23353 < peter.far...@broadridge.com> wrote: > IOGear GUS434 - 4x4 USB 3.0 Peripheral Sharing

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 12:59:57 -0500, Steve Beaver wrote: >In my work setup I have 3 Monitors and 2 computers and a Logitech 850 Mouse >and Keyboard. > >For me to switch I have to move the Dongle. > >Can anyone suggest a piece of gear I can put a pair of USB-A plugs onto a >switch box and have my do

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-20 Thread Martin Packer
I can't help you with that but I can note I have a Logitech K780 keyboard and a Logitech M720 Triathlon mouse, both of which allow button-press switching to 3 computers. (Right now it's Raspberry Pi and Macbook Pro.) The universal receivers are in the Pi and the Macbook Pro is Bluetooth attache

Re: IGGCSI00 and REXX

2020-03-20 Thread Dale R. Smith
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:45:05 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >I'm not knocking your code which looks very good, but yet again it's a >good example of why REXX is a poor language for processing binary data. > >I don't use REXX much these days. On z/OS I use either Lua [1] or Python >[2], mainly Lua a

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-20 Thread CM Poncelet
No, there is no problem with that. I assume you meant "EXECIO 1 DISKR "ddn1" (STEM foo."   The problem happens e.g. if a variable X contains the names of other variables, which in turn contain the names of yet other variables etc. etc. which finally - with say names Z1 Z2 Z3 etc. - have values that

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-20 Thread Rob Schramm
My biggest problem with WFH is that the VPN guys just don't understand the correct protocol for the giant mainframe mouse. Rob Schramm On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 15:46 Martin Packer wrote: > I can't help you with that but I can note I have a Logitech K780 keyboard > and a Logitech M720 Triathlon m

Re: SQL query interface for catalogs?

2020-03-20 Thread Rob Schramm
Sounds good to me. It's no worse than a catalog search that returns everything. Rob Schramm On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 13:10 Massimo Biancucci wrote: > John, > > it seems a nice idea anyway I tend to be cautious in interfacing catalog. > In my experience there's something that can go wrong. > > Year

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
> I assume you meant "EXECIO 1 DISKR "ddn1" (STEM foo." No, I meant EXECIO '*' DISKR ddn1 1 '(' STEM foo.Of course, if you've assigned values to EXECIO, DISKR, STEM or FOO. then you'll need to quote th relevant words, but not otherwise., -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 00:39:16 +, CM Poncelet wrote: >No, there is no problem with that. I assume you meant "EXECIO 1 DISKR >"ddn1" (STEM foo." >  More likely: "EXECIO * DISKR" ddn1 "(STEM foo." >The problem happens e.g. if a variable X contains the names of other >variables, which in turn con

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-20 Thread Jackson, Rob
I'll bite, since no one else has. What's wrong with Interpret/Value()? I have used both to great benefit before, when there didn't seem to be a good--or possible--alternative. I thought they were both very nice features of the language--to be used very sparingly (because I believe they are CP

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 01:06:57 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> I assume you meant "EXECIO 1 DISKR "ddn1" (STEM foo." > >No, I meant EXECIO '*' DISKR ddn1 1 '(' STEM foo.Of course, if you've assigned >values to EXECIO, DISKR, STEM or FOO. then you'll need to quote th relevant >words, but not otherw

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 01:46:07 +, Jackson, Rob wrote: >I'll bite, since no one else has. What's wrong with Interpret/Value()? I >have used both to great benefit before, when there didn't seem to be a >good--or possible--alternative. I thought they were both very nice features >of the langu

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 20:42:20 -0400, Rob Schramm wrote: >My biggest problem with WFH is that the VPN guys just don't understand the >correct protocol for the giant mainframe mouse. > > > Do you mean that VPN clients for mainframe are rare? Hmmm... hadn't thought of that. Is there a FOSS VPN clie

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-20 Thread Charles Mills
Which it always should be, to avoid surprises. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 6:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Does anybody remember CLIST? On Sat

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-20 Thread Steve Horein
Here's a rexx example of a variable containing the names of other variables that hold values: /* This is the main REXX program */ j=1;k=6;m=9 a ='j k m' call test exit /* This is a subroutine */ test: procedure expose (a) /* Exposes A, J, K, and M */ say a j k m/* Disp

Re: Memory-Lane Monday: Documentation just takes up too much space | Computerworld

2020-03-20 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
wdonze...@gmail.com (William Donzelli) writes: > Al "bitsavers" Kossow has a HUGE backlog of material to scan - > something like 25 pallets of stuff or something crazy like that - so > scanning and archiving, while constant, picks away at that pile > depending on which way the wind blows and who is