SDSF & REXX & ULOG problem

2019-05-30 Thread Sean Gleann
I've been struggling with this one for a couple of days now, without making any headway. I have a REXX that works through SDSF that is intended to issue 'D R,L' and retrieve any outstanding console messages. It works fine when I invoke it from ISPF option 6 with an EXEC... command, but when I invo

SDSF & REXX & ULOG problem

2019-05-30 Thread Sean Gleann
Please ignore my previous post. I've manged to create a solution via a different method. Using ADDRESS SDSF "ISFLOG READ TYPE(SYSLOG) (WTOR)" gives me what I need to progress this work. Regards Sean -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / si

Need a second set of eyes to look at my NPF settings

2019-05-30 Thread Tony Thigpen
I installed NPF and had it working for my testing. That was about 4 months ago. Now, I it's time to set up the real printers so we can start using it in production. But, now my original test no longer works. NPF will no longer pull the print from the JES queue and place it in the routing queue.

Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls

2019-05-30 Thread R.S.
As Shmuel said an application with a trap door is an application vulnerability. Ideed, IF you know such trap door, you know z/OS vulnerability, which proves the platform is not immune. Is it as vulnerable as Windows? No, because it's still not binary, some systems are still more secure than oth

Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls

2019-05-30 Thread Ray Overby
In response to "An application with a trap door is an application vulnerability. If there is a trap door in z/OS itself then that's a platform vulnerability." Does it really matter if an application vs z/OS has a trap door vulnerability? In either case z/OS and the ESM's cannot function prope

Re: master JCL

2019-05-30 Thread Steve Horein
Found it here: http://www.oocities.org/siliconvalley/peaks/4170/articles/selfdoc.html On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bruce Hewson wrote: > Skip, > > A long time ago I read :- > > Building a Self-Documenting MVS/ESA System > by Mark S. Hahn > Reprinted with permission. ©1992 Candle Corp. > > Ca

Re: master JCL

2019-05-30 Thread John McKown
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:10 PM Pommier, Rex wrote: > Hello listers, > > I'm apparently having a case of brain-drain. Is there an easy way to > display the currently used master JCL? I know I can look at LINKLIB and > PARMLIB and see what's there, but is there a way of displaying what's > actua

Re: SDSF & REXX & ULOG problem

2019-05-30 Thread John McKown
This is probably your problem: KJ56644I NO VALID TSO USERID, DEFAULT USER ATTRIBUTES USED What RACF ID is the job running under? It must have a TSO segment and be authorized to use SDSF. On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 3:14 AM Sean Gleann wrote: > I've been struggling with this one for a couple of day

Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls

2019-05-30 Thread John McKown
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 1:23 PM Schuffenhauer, Mark wrote: > My sales favorite was knowing key functionality is vaporware, talking up > everything the software would do some day. Then being horrified when you > realize the 'decision makers' are eating it up. None of them ends up in > hell when t

Re: SDSF & REXX & ULOG problem

2019-05-30 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Msg IKJ56644I is always issued. Tso batch does not requires tao segment. However, as John noticed this is not the same user. Has a look at the first message of the stc job log to see which user associated with your task and make sure it has permission to command ulog in sdsf resource class. ITscha

Re: SDSF & REXX & ULOG problem

2019-05-30 Thread John McKown
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 7:48 AM ITschak Mugzach wrote: > Msg IKJ56644I is always issued. Tso batch does not requires tao segment. > However, as John noticed this is not the same user. Has a look at the first > message of the stc job log to see which user associated with your task and > make sure

Re: master JCL

2019-05-30 Thread Pommier, Rex
Thanks David et al, I knew system told me somewhere but for the life of me, I couldn't find it. The confusion on my part came from the fact that I have the IEASYS00 line to use MSTJCL00. However, member MSTJCL00 doesn't exist in SYS1.PARMLIB but it is in a concatenated PARMLIB library. Being

Re: SDSF & REXX & ULOG problem

2019-05-30 Thread Sean Gleann
For what it's worth, an earlier modification of the REXX featured the use of the WHO command to retrieve that sort of information. The user is STCOPER, which doesn't have a TSO segment, it's true, even though - per Itschak - one isn't necessary. As part of pursuing this problem, I PERMITted both CO

Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls

2019-05-30 Thread Ray Overby
In response to "Ideed, IF you know such trap door, you know z/OS vulnerability, which proves the platform is not immune. Is it as vulnerable as Windows? No, because it's still not binary, some systems are still more secure than others." In my opinion (I am biased) z/OS is the most secure-able

Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls

2019-05-30 Thread Bill Johnson
Nobody said it was immune and you sell z security which is quite a conflict of interest. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 9:17 AM, Ray Overby wrote: In response to "Ideed, IF you know such trap door, you know z/OS vulnerability, which proves the platform is not imm

Re: Need a second set of eyes to look at my NPF settings

2019-05-30 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Thu, 30 May 2019 06:23:32 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote: >I installed NPF and had it working for my testing. That was about 4 >months ago. Now, I it's time to set up the real printers so we can start >using it in production. Tony, you and I may be some of the very few members of this list that

Re: Need a second set of eyes to look at my NPF settings

2019-05-30 Thread Tony Thigpen
Dana, Below is what PRT7 looks like after I start it. $Dprt7 $HASP603 PRT7 UNIT=,STATUS=INACTIVE,BURST=NO,CKPTLINE=0, CKPTMODE=PAGE,CKPTPAGE=100,CKPTSEC=0,CREATOR=, DEVFCB=,DEVFLASH=,FCB=8X8,FORMS=(WL1,, ,),FSS=FSS1,HONORTRC=YES,JOBNAME=,LAST

Re: SDSF & REXX & ULOG problem

2019-05-30 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Try using PGM=SDSF or Address SDSF "ISFSLASH ("command.") (WAIT)" -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Sean Gleann Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 4:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SDSF & REXX & ULOG problem I've

delete volume and unit information form DDDEF

2019-05-30 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Hi, I have DDDEFs that have volume and unit information coded. How do I delete that information in batch? I am using z/OS v2.3 Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@lis

Re: delete volume and unit information form DDDEF

2019-05-30 Thread Allan Staller
Read up on the SMPE ZONEEDIT command. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 9:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: delete volume and unit information form DDDEF Hi, I have DDDEFs that have volume and unit inf

Re: delete volume and unit information form DDDEF

2019-05-30 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
I looked at that, but didn't find a way to delete the information -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: delete volume and unit information form DDDEF Read up on the

Re: delete volume and unit information form DDDEF

2019-05-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
SET BDY(zonename) . ZEDIT DDDEF . CHANGE UNIT(*,*) . CHANGE VOLUME(*,*) . ENDZEDIT . UCLIN . Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Gadi Ben-Avi" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 9:37:30 AM Subject: Re: delete volume and unit information form DDDEF

Re: delete volume and unit information form DDDEF

2019-05-30 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: delete volume and unit information form DDDEF SET BDY(zonename) . ZEDIT DDDEF . CHANGE UNIT(*,*) . CHANGE VOLUME(*,

Re: delete volume and unit information form DDDEF

2019-05-30 Thread Jousma, David
Something like this. Now, that being said, I personally, don't catalog the SMPE target and DLIB datasets, and specifically use UNIT/VOL to point to them so that there is NO Chance of accidentally updating the wrong set of datasets (i.e. the running version). SET BDY(yourzone) . ZONEED

Re: delete volume and unit information form DDDEF

2019-05-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
good Point, I do not use the catalog for any of my SMPE target or DLIB libraries, I keep these on seperate SMPE volumes Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "David Jousma" <01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, May 30, 201

Re: Need a second set of eyes to look at my NPF settings

2019-05-30 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Thu, 30 May 2019 09:59:14 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote: >Maybe you have a 'better way' to use NPF. Could you give me an example >of what you are doing? > So JES2 never selects output for that printer? You don't ever get $HASP150 ? What I do is all output for network printers goes to Class C.

Re: Need a second set of eyes to look at my NPF settings

2019-05-30 Thread Tony Thigpen
Display Filter View Print Options Search Help SDSF OUTPUT ALL CLASSES ALL FORMSLINES 1,068 LINE 1-8 (8) NP JOBNAME JobIDOwnerPrty C FormsDest Tot-Rec TONY JOB224

Re: delete volume and unit information form DDDEF

2019-05-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
See Chapter 24 of https://www-01.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc00100.nsf/pages/zOSV2R3sa232275/$file/gim1000_v2r3.pdf for the syntax of the DEL DDDEF UCLIN command. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussio

Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls

2019-05-30 Thread Tom Brennan
I've seen the acronym ESM a few times in this thread. I'll assume that means "Enterprise Security Management", and I'll guess it refers to security processes (not RACF), such as assigning userid's, making sure people have just the access they need, periodic audits, etc. Am I even close? On 5

Re: master JCL

2019-05-30 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 29 May 2019 22:10:23 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: >Hello listers, > >I'm apparently having a case of brain-rrain. Is there an easy way to display >the currently used master JCL? I know I can look at LINKLIB and PARMLIB and >see what's there, but is there a way of displaying what's actua

Re: [External] Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls

2019-05-30 Thread Pommier, Rex
I have been under the impression it stands for External Security Manager, of which the "big 3" would be RACF, ACF2, Top Secret. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 10:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject

Re: RSUs

2019-05-30 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 29 May 2019 23:06:01 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >The advertised virtue of RSU is that it represents a well-defined bundle of >fixes that have been tested together in 'many' shops. Not exactly. It is a set of PTFs that have been extensively tested together by IBM. Then they have been

Re: [External] Re: Need a second set of eyes to look at my NPF settings

2019-05-30 Thread Pommier, Rex
Are you using NPFVTAM and NPFQMGR? If so, are they running? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 9:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: Need a second set of eyes to look at my NPF settings

Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls

2019-05-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
> Does it really matter if an application vs z/OS has a trap door vulnerability? Not if you don't care about security. If you care then you must investigate both. Please note that an unprivileged application can still have a dangerous back door that compromises, e.g., privacy, by giving a user a

Re: RSUs

2019-05-30 Thread Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services)
Classification: Public > Not exactly. It is a set of PTFs that have been extensively tested together > by IBM. > Then they have been adopted as a whole by many shops. > > -- > Tom Marchant Is that true? I thought it was just the CST that was extensively tested; that's only released quarterly, w

Re: Need a second set of eyes to look at my NPF settings

2019-05-30 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Thu, 30 May 2019 10:50:09 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote: > Display Filter View Print Options Search Help > > >SDSF OUTPUT ALL CLASSES ALL FORMSLINES 1,068 LINE 1-8 (8) >NP JOBNAME JobIDOwnerPrt

Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls

2019-05-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
I've never seen a trap door installed by IBM. What I've seen was trap doors installed by data center staff and trap doors in 3rd party software. In those cases it's not the platform that is insecure but the installation. Would you blame the lock if someone leaves their key under the doormat? d)

Re: Need a second set of eyes to look at my NPF settings

2019-05-30 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Dana Mitchell wrote: >Tony Thigpen wrote: >>Maybe you have a 'better way' to use NPF. Could you give me an example of >>what you are doing? >So JES2 never selects output for that printer? You don't ever get $HASP150 ? If that is the case, turn on the debug statement for JES2, something like

Re: Need a second set of eyes to look at my NPF settings

2019-05-30 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Dana Mitchell wrote: >Your output has PZGWHFL1 as a destination, but your printer is set to >ROUTECDE=(LOCAL) so it's only going to select printout with *NO* destination >coded. Thats why the printer isn't selecting that output. Do you have a NPF >route defined for PZGWHFL1? >You either n

Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls

2019-05-30 Thread Lou Losee
Just because it has not been brought up and I think it is pertinent to this discussion. It is obvious that IBM has vulnerabilities in z/OS. The existence of the integrity APARs are proof of that. There may not be as many as the fixes released for Windows or Mac, but they do exist. Lou -- Artifi

Re: delete volume and unit information form DDDEF

2019-05-30 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 30 May 2019 14:42:39 +, Jousma, David wrote: >I personally, don't catalog the SMPE target and DLIB datasets Not for MVS data sets, but what about ISV products? -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signof

Re: delete volume and unit information form DDDEF

2019-05-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
currently I only support one ISV product, I have my MVS hat on currently, so yes ,I do use the cataloged version of the datasets for ISV's on my sandbox LPAR. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Tom Marchant" <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LIST

Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls

2019-05-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
> It is obvious that IBM has vulnerabilities in z/OS. Water is wet; I've reported one such. But not all vulnerabilities are trap doors. Do you know of a trap door installed by IBM? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Main

Re: Need a second set of eyes to look at my NPF settings

2019-05-30 Thread Tony Thigpen
By setting: $TPRT7,FORMS=* I am now getting my print into the NPF queue. I was just too close to it to see it. Thanks, Tony Thigpen Elardus Engelbrecht wrote on 5/30/19 11:34 AM: Dana Mitchell wrote: Tony Thigpen wrote: Maybe you have a 'better way' to use NPF. Could you give me an examp

Re: delete volume and unit information form DDDEF

2019-05-30 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
We catalog *all* SMP/E data sets including those for z/OS. I don't see how *not* cataloging data sets increases integrity. At some point you have to distinguish among different releases by typing something somewhere. I'd rather do that in the HLQ. We decided long ago to 'preserve' (i.e. avoid de

Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls

2019-05-30 Thread Ray Overby
Yes. On 5/30/2019 11:01 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: It is obvious that IBM has vulnerabilities in z/OS. Water is wet; I've reported one such. But not all vulnerabilities are trap doors. Do you know of a trap door installed by IBM? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls

2019-05-30 Thread Ray Overby
ESM - External Security Manager. I use ESM when I am talking about ACF2, RACF, and TSS. On 5/30/2019 10:20 AM, Tom Brennan wrote: I've seen the acronym ESM a few times in this thread.  I'll assume that means "Enterprise Security Management", and I'll guess it refers to security processes (not

Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls

2019-05-30 Thread Tom Brennan
Thanks! On 5/30/2019 9:20 AM, Ray Overby wrote: ESM - External Security Manager. I use ESM when I am talking about ACF2, RACF, and TSS. On 5/30/2019 10:20 AM, Tom Brennan wrote: I've seen the acronym ESM a few times in this thread.  I'll assume that means "Enterprise Security Management", an

Re: delete volume and unit information form DDDEF

2019-05-30 Thread Jousma, David
Tom, Our ISV product installs have the VerRelease imbedded into the installation datasets. We use a cloning process to aggregate the updated product onto a ISV sysres that then removes the VerRelease from the dataset names. The "master" ISV sysres contents are not cataloged, but the environ

Re: delete volume and unit information form DDDEF

2019-05-30 Thread Allan Staller
I prefer to keep the SMP/E targets uncataloged. The prevents inadvertent updating of any running system. Extremely cheap (but effective) insurance. The SMP/E targets are used *ONLY* as SMP/E targets and *NEVER* on a running system. "Clones" are used by the running system. My 0.02 USD worth -

Re: delete volume and unit information form DDDEF

2019-05-30 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 30 May 2019 17:02:44 +, Jousma, David wrote: >Tom, > >Our ISV product installs have the VerRelease imbedded into the installation >datasets. We use a cloning process to aggregate the updated product onto a >ISV sysres that then removes the VerRelease from the dataset names. The

Re: delete volume and unit information form DDDEF

2019-05-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
when I was contracting Y2K and had some global services folks working with me, that was the standard, and once I moved on I found this same methodology at other sites, I adopted this strategy and documented the process in my install and maintenance process, it works for me very well, (FOR MVS) I

Re: delete volume and unit information form DDDEF

2019-05-30 Thread Jousma, David
Tom, Everything with ISV installs has version release in the DSN's. I've personally never liked SYMBOLICRELATE, so I don’t use it.Cloning process is boiled down to a standard set of batch jobs that just get run. Not much thought process involved.

Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls

2019-05-30 Thread Ray Overby
In response to "Please note that an unprivileged application can still have a dangerous back door that compromises, e.g., privacy, by giving a user authorized to access the application access more data than he is authorized to see." As a developer of security interfaces for applications: It is

Re: Fwd: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls

2019-05-30 Thread Wayne Driscoll
If the trap door is in an APF authorized library, then by convention it's part of the operating system, and would be considered a platform issue. Anything that is APF authorized is expected to adhere to the statement of integrity that z/OS publishes. Wayne Driscoll Rocket Software Note - All op

Re: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls

2019-05-30 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
It must be Friday somewhere. I put 'against stupidity' into Google. Schiller's exact quote popped up first. Just sayin'. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@s

Re: CTC (FCTC) usage

2019-05-30 Thread Tony Harminc
On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 13:46, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > Thank you, that was my point about non-CTC links. When I started here in > the 90s, BSC links were still in use. First for NJE to VM/XA because our > implementation did not include VTAM, and for some JES2 connections because > of a perceptio

Re: CTC (FCTC) usage

2019-05-30 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Tony, thanks for clearing it up. I was indeed confusing the two issues. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainf

Re: CTC (FCTC) usage

2019-05-30 Thread Tony Thigpen
Tony Harminc wrote: > In passing, I have no idea why JES2 would no longer support CTCs. Are > FICON CTCs completely incompatible with Bus&Tag (and 3088) and ESCON > ones? Where are the FICON ones documented? Actually, I don't know for sure where the support fails. 1) JES2 requires that the CTCA b

BNDRY=PAGE possible CPU hit?

2019-05-30 Thread Michael Hochee
Hi, I recently added the BNDRY=PAGE parameter to a set of STORAGE OBTAINS which acquire storage areas of various sizes from several low private subpools. My intent was a reduction of CPU used by subsequent MVCLE instructions, as ADM would more likely be employed for MVCLE executes, since the s