Re: how to determine dasd subsystem type from console?

2019-05-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
Itschak, The information is in the NED, which you can display with DS QD,devn,RCD. Unfortunately, the model information the emulated IBM device, but the vendor ID and serial number should get you halfway there. +4 (4) 6 Bytes Device Type, in EBCDIC. +10 (A) 3 Bytes Device

Re: how to determine dasd subsystem type from console?

2019-05-20 Thread Martin Packer
“2107-900” I’ve always felt to be a little non-descriptive. It doesn’t really document the HDS model. Cheers, Martin Sent from my iPad > On 20 May 2019, at 09:55, Ron Hawkins wrote: > > Itschak, > > > > The information is in the NED, which you can display with DS QD,devn,RCD. > > > > Unfortuna

Re: how to determine dasd subsystem type from console?

2019-05-20 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Thanks Ron. On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 10:55 AM Ron Hawkins wrote: > Itschak, > > > > The information is in the NED, which you can display with DS QD,devn,RCD. > > > > Unfortunately, the model information the emulated IBM device, but the > vendor ID and serial number should get you halfway there. >

Re: how to determine dasd subsystem type from console?

2019-05-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
Martin, Agree. It's about time z/OS provided for something other than just IBM controllers. However, it would be somewhat redundant, as it is the RCD and RDC that document supported feature information for the OS, and not the emulated model. If you are running Hitachi's MAR you can get the HTC

A VTF Mainframe (VTFM) question

2019-05-20 Thread Giliad Wilf
Hi All, I've been assigned to evaluate VTF Mainframe (VTFM) at our shop and it is already installed and running. Looking for things that have been set "under the hood" I can see its subsystem has four SSI routines: No. 9, "Notify write-to-operator message". No. 10, "Notify operator command". N

Re: DFDSS copy to pre-allocated dsn

2019-05-20 Thread Elaine Beal
Robert, Thank you- duh, read the whole error message:( I was looking at only the first xxx reason code. Elaine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the me

Re: Convert ZFS to Expanded format

2019-05-20 Thread Allan Staller
This will require unload/delete/allocate/reload of the original dataset. I presume you mean either Extended Addressability or Extended Format. In either case, these are attributes of the DATACLAS which can only be modified at dataset allocation time. HTH, -Original Message- From: IBM M

Re: z/OS Container Extensions

2019-05-20 Thread Anthony Giorgio
If you have specific questions about zCX, feel free to post them here. I'll do my best to answer them, or find someone else who can. As far as the technical setup of zCX, it's essentially a z/OS hypervisor (like z/VM) that is only configured to run Linux. The Linux guest OS is running Docker,

Comparing SMP/E to Git

2019-05-20 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
... in what ways are they similar, and what ways are they different? Is the world better off with SMP/E-like structure for code, or is z/OS etc. better off with Git-like structure? - Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure MARKSANDSPENCER.COM Unless otherwise stated ab

Re: Comparing SMP/E to Git

2019-05-20 Thread Steve Smith
That's like comparing a airliner to a boarding ramp. sas On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 9:29 AM Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh < vignesh.v.sankaranaraya...@marks-and-spencer.com> wrote: > ... in what ways are they similar, and what ways are they different? > Is the world better off with SMP/E-like structure

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Comparing SMP/E to Git

2019-05-20 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Fine, didn't intend to say they were meant for the same thing, wanted to start a convo about both.. If you have a few minutes, can you expand on your statement.. ? – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent:

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Comparing SMP/E to Git

2019-05-20 Thread Anthony Giorgio
Git is designed as a source code management system, while SMP/E is a package manager. Git is analogous to Subversion, CVS, and RCS, while SMP/E is similar to RPM. On 5/20/19 9:49 AM, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: Fine, didn't intend to say they were meant for the same thing, wanted to star

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Comparing SMP/E to Git

2019-05-20 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
What about the PRE/SUP/REQ etc. control statements in PTFs... isn't that maybe a basic SCM? Don't know if it allows for line-level diff as in Git, but does even Endevor allow/do that, for example? – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: PL/I TSO Interrupt - Attention handling - SLIP trap X33E / X13E

2019-05-20 Thread Joe Monk
If youre trying to run under TSO, did you compile with the INTERRUPT option? Joe On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 11:37 PM Mike Stramba wrote: > I'm trying to compile and run the PL/I ON ATTENTION interrupt example > from the PLI prog guide ver 4 r4 (pg 542 / GI11-9145-03) > > The code contains an ON

Re: Comparing SMP/E to Git

2019-05-20 Thread Joel C. Ewing
My understanding of Git is fairly superficial, having only read about it and not actually used it, but it would appear that the orientation of git is primarily one of files/modules, tracking collections of those and the assigning of versioning levels for the entire collection of files.  Distributio

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Comparing SMP/E to Git

2019-05-20 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Thanks for writing this up Joel! Is it fair to say that SMP/E is not strictly error-fix anymore, since there are now INCremental releases from CA (for example), which allow for the introduction of product feature(s)? If it's RSU1903 or PUT1903, sure, that's fixes, but with the growth of Continuo

Re: Comparing SMP/E to Git

2019-05-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 20 May 2019 13:28:58 +, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: >... in what ways are they similar, and what ways are they different? >Is the world better off with SMP/E-like structure for code, or is z/OS etc. >better off with Git-like structure? > I never learned Git. I've long seen simil

Restoring IBM System/360 Model 20s and a System/370 Model 125

2019-05-20 Thread Timothy Sipples
Correction: This team bid on one System/360 Model 20 but ended up winning a pair of Model 20s and a System/370 Model 125. Amazing! The Model 125 was pre-XA but has virtual storage and either 96K or 128K of main memory. I've changed the subject line to reflect what they've discovered. They recovere

FTPLOGGING not working

2019-05-20 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Some PTFs were applied to our production z/OS 2.3 environment this weekend, and since the FTP server was cycled the log messages are no longer being written to the console. FTPLOGGING TRUE is still set in the SYSFTPD config file. Any thoughts? --

Re: Vote for RFE 48916 to create LE STORAGE report when program abends

2019-05-20 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Tom, Can you provide a link? Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Pinnacle Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 10:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Vote for RFE 48916 to create LE STORAGE report when program abends F

Re: [EXTERNAL] Comparing SMP/E to Git

2019-05-20 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On May 20, 2019, at 11:20 AM, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh mailto:vignesh.v.sankaranaraya...@marks-and-spencer.com>> wrote: On the other end, GitLab (a provider of Git) is now offering package management. Are the 2 products/technologies converging? Hypothetically, if they are, is Git better than S

Re: z/OS Container Extensions

2019-05-20 Thread John McKown
On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 7:56 AM Anthony Giorgio wrote: > If you have specific questions about zCX, feel free to post them here. > I'll do my best to answer them, or find someone else who can. > > As far as the technical setup of zCX, it's essentially a z/OS hypervisor > (like z/VM) that is only c

Re: Restoring IBM System/360 Model 20s and a System/370 Model 125

2019-05-20 Thread William Donzelli
One of the model 20s is more or less a parts car, probably used to keep the production one running. They intend to use it for the same purpose. The 125 seems only to be the processor, as there were no S/370 era peripherals with the lot, other than a 3504 with the top shaved off, apparently used as

Re: Vote for RFE 48916 to create LE STORAGE report when program abends

2019-05-20 Thread Tom Conley
On 5/20/2019 12:55 PM, Richards, Robert B. wrote: Tom, Can you provide a link? Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Pinnacle Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 10:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Vote for RFE 4891

Re: FTPLOGGING not working

2019-05-20 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Our Systems group has resolved this issue. (I don't know the cause or the resolution at the moment.) From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 10:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: FTPLOGGING not worki

Re: PL/I TSO Interrupt - Attention handling - SLIP trap X33E / X13E

2019-05-20 Thread Steve Smith
Good call... the INTERRUPT option is the likely culprit (the O.P. can say for sure). Now maybe someone could explain why such an option exists. Would you like an 'EOF' option to specify whether EOF should be detected? TSO is a very-multi-tasked environment. Each command is ATTACHed as a subtask,

Re: z/OS Container Extensions

2019-05-20 Thread Mike Schwab
You can run z/Linux on Hercules or Z mainframe. Go to https://hub.docker.com/search?q=&type=image&architecture=s390x . Select IBM Z as the hardware and there are 2001 images ready to download. Pick one with the combination of database and language support you want. On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 12:00 PM

Re: PL/I TSO Interrupt - Attention handling - SLIP trap X33E / X13E

2019-05-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
No and no. TSO does not support concurrent execution of tasks. When an unauthorized task calls an authorized command, the TMP doesn't let the unauthorized task continue until the authorized task completes. The default for attention is to allow the terminal user to decide what to do, e.g., TES

Re: [EXTERNAL] Comparing SMP/E to Git

2019-05-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
Is a Pier Cub better than a rowboat? Neither can do what he other does. If you're trying to deal with dependencies, SMP is better than anything else that I've seen. If you have independent developers updating the same source module, SMP is useless. When the only tool in your toolkit is a pipe,

Re: Comparing SMP/E to Git

2019-05-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
Comparing SMP to git is like comparing a hammer to a screwdriver; each is good at what it is designed for and terrible at what the other does well. SMP is designed to manage dependencies, and does that well. It does not have good support for multiple updates of the same element, while merging up

Re: PL/I TSO Interrupt - Attention handling - SLIP trap X33E / X13E

2019-05-20 Thread Seymour J Metz
I'd say that the first step is to run a trace and find out what your terminal simulator is actually sending when you click on ATTENTION. Ideally, it will be the aid for PA1, exactly one time, but life is full of surprises. Does your ATTENTION key work as expected with other applications? -- Sh

Re: [EXTERNAL] Comparing SMP/E to Git

2019-05-20 Thread Anthony Giorgio
Well said. Git was primarily designed to address deficiencies in other source code management systems. It has excellent support for branching and merging, which were a major pain point in Linux kernel development. Git is simply not designed to handle package management duties. On 5/20/19 3:45

Re: z/OS Container Extensions

2019-05-20 Thread John McKown
Thanks. On Mon, May 20, 2019, 14:16 Mike Schwab wrote: > You can run z/Linux on Hercules or Z mainframe. Go to > https://hub.docker.com/search?q=&type=image&architecture=s390x . > Select IBM Z as the hardware and there are 2001 images ready to download. > Pick one with the combination of databas

Re: PL/I TSO Interrupt - Attention handling - SLIP trap X33E / X13E

2019-05-20 Thread Mike Stramba
No, it's not a "good call". I do have the INTERRUPT option enabled. At least that's what the compiler listing says. What code does the INTERRUPT option generate ? Mike On 5/20/19, Steve Smith wrote: > Good call... the INTERRUPT option is the likely culprit (the O.P. can say > for sure). No

Re: PL/I TSO Interrupt - Attention handling - SLIP trap X33E / X13E

2019-05-20 Thread Mike Shaw
On 5/20/2019 3:37 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: No and no. TSO does not support concurrent execution of tasks. When an unauthorized task calls an authorized command, the TMP doesn't let the unauthorized task continue until the authorized task completes. Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.e

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Comparing SMP/E to Git

2019-05-20 Thread Joel C. Ewing
What PTF stands for (Program Temporary Fix) is of course no longer accurate -- as  long as you stay on the same product release level they are neither "temporary" nor confined to "fixes".   Many small functional enhancements are implemented using PTFs and such PTFs are also part of some RSU and PUT

How to Identify PROC name in SMF

2019-05-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
Is this possible? If so, what SMF record can I use to find the following JOBNAME/PROC Used/Date/Time/LPAR Note: No SAS /no MXG Only IFASMFDP or DAF Thanks Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: How to Identify PROC name in SMF

2019-05-20 Thread Charles Mills
Most in smf 30. Not sure about proc name. I've used a decent cbt reporting. No lpar per se but smfid is almost the same thing.Charles  Original message From: Lizette Koehler Date: 5/20/19 5:04 PM (GMT-08:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: How to Identify PROC name in S

Re: How to Identify PROC name in SMF

2019-05-20 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 20 May 2019 17:27:51 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) wrote: >Most in smf 30. Not sure about proc name. I've used a decent cbt reporting. No >lpar per se but smfid is almost the same thing.Charles  PROC name is not available in any SMF record that I am

Re: PL/I TSO Interrupt - Attention handling - SLIP trap X33E / X13E

2019-05-20 Thread Steve Smith
I got attention processing mixed up with something else. TSO shouldn't normally kill the command on an attention. S13E & S33E are "normal" in many cases (outside of TSO - I'm not sure within TSO), as it's sometimes easier to just DETACH rather than coordinate a "proper" subtask shutdown. So that

360 model 20 restoration

2019-05-20 Thread Phil Smith III
https://ibms360.co.uk/?page_id=22 Apologies if this has been here already-if so, I missed it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IB