We used GDDM and 3279 G (IIRC) displays to do preview of our
plotter outputs (which were to pe printed on big electrostatic Calcomp
plotters in the end).
The (most technical) software was written in Pascal and Fortran and
built the output using a graphic software which was called GKS (graphic
ker
BTW, this was very helpful for me, being the lead developer (first: the
only)
of those technical applications. Before GKS, I had to wait a long time
before the
plotter was ready and I wasted much time and many sheets of paper during
testing.
With GKS, I could look at the results immediately af
Tom Brennan wrote:
>Well, I said the same thing about IND$FILE back in 1998, thinking it would be
>totally replaced by FTP. I was certainly wrong about that! Today I think
>people use IND$FILE more than ever for smaller file transfers.
... and FTP is supposed to be replaced by SFTP or FTPS ..
Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
>We used GDDM and 3279 G (IIRC) displays to do preview of our plotter outputs
>.
... This was in the 1985 to 1995 time frame. After that, the applications moved
off the mainframe, to Unix workstations.
Around 1990 - 2000, I and some of my colleagues used GDDM to displa
Thanks Roger.
I did actually stumble across this after some more googling on 'WEB queue',
and have had a play with it, but think it is more aligned with dump
analysis, than info on a running system. Whilst it does work on a running
system, it is very slow, and very cpu intensive.
My main aim at
Am 27.11.2017 um 09:47 schrieb Elardus Engelbrecht:
Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
We used GDDM and 3279 G (IIRC) displays to do preview of our plotter outputs
.
... This was in the 1985 to 1995 time frame. After that, the applications moved
off the mainframe, to Unix workstations.
Around 1990 -
On 2017-11-27 8:06 PM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
I guess, the original 3279 G displays had small (HP?) plotters
attached to them, so that the content of the display could
simply be hardcopied by pressing a certain key (or controlled
by the application, maybe).
Our SAS/MXG performance guy back in th
I forget, but the only big plotter was an EIA attached to a PDP-8 over in the
Chemistry building. So I'd have to run the simulations on the mainframe and
write the output to DTR and carry them over to the Chem lab. They didn't like
me 'cause they couldn't play 'Duck Hunter' while the plotter was
On 2017-11-27 7:42 AM, Tom Brennan wrote:
Years ago I was getting help from Greg Price
Probably circa turn of the century (before Vista was also a release of
Windows) I thought it might be nice if one the the
not-prohibitively-expensive TN3270 clients supported a form of 3270
graphics, and s
Q1) - See answer for Q3
Q2) - Not necessary
Q3) - Check the JES parameter PCEDEF and increase the number of processors.
ISTR it requires a minimum of a JES HOT START. Check the fine manuals.
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I don't know the official answer, but a way to guesstimate a quasi-sane
answer:
Pick whatever machine was made available 3 years after OS/390 2.5 became
available.
Any machine available after that would most likely not have had any
exploitation support provided as far back as a release 3 years
On 2017-11-27 7:00 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
What is "GDDM graphics", APA or PSS?
"All Points Addressable" and "Programmable Symbol Sets" are what I take
these acronyms (initializations?) to mean.
You could say that "GDDM graphics" is graphics performed by employing
calls to GDDM. If displ
So you are saying I can't IPL OS/360 on our z13 :)
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I don't kno
LOL - at 06:15 with everyone else still sleeping.
Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
... and FTP is supposed to be replaced by SFTP or FTPS ... but I could be
wrong! ;-)
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On 2017-11-27 7:22 PM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
run on my 3279 G display
And this time I'll get straight to the point.
I would pay money for a 3179-G manual.
Why?
Because while using programmed symbols is documented in a current
manual, using 3270 vector graphics is not.
It used to be docume
Hi Greg!
Yes, with your help I did get the LPS functions going years ago in what
I called V1.25. It seemed fine until some people I worked with started
using it for SAS graphs and found errors. I spent a lot of time trying
to figure out what I was doing wrong, and then (sorry) kind of decide
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 8:05 AM, PINION, RICHARD W. <
rpin...@firsttennessee.com> wrote:
> So you are saying I can't IPL OS/360 on our z13 :)
>
Not without an "RPQ". I remember back in the 1980s when Braniff Airways
(now defunct) was running OS/MVT on a 3033. It only ran because IBM wrote
specia
http://enterprisesystemsmedia.com/article/branding-insanity#When:14:05:00Z
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Maybe dump question:
would a manual describing all the GDDM calls (from Fortran, for example),
be sufficient? Or is a lower level of definition needed? Is GDDM the
only way
to access the graphic functions of the 3279 G graphic displays?
I recall that I had some problems in the 1980s, because G
On 27/11/2017 10:51 PM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
Maybe dump question:
That's a very mainframe Freudian slip ;)
would a manual describing all the GDDM calls (from Fortran, for example),
be sufficient? Or is a lower level of definition needed? Is GDDM the
only way
to access the graphic function
Am 27.11.2017 um 15:54 schrieb David Crayford:
On 27/11/2017 10:51 PM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
Maybe dump question:
That's a very mainframe Freudian slip ;)
Indeed, I had a good laugh myself, when your answer came in ...
it was not only a typo on my side.
On 11/27/2017 08:45 AM, Mark Regan wrote:
> http://enterprisesystemsmedia.com/article/branding-insanity#When:14:05:00Z
>
Obviously some PHB (Dilbert) managers think they justify their existence
by change -- any change.
The world would be a better place with people in corporate management
positions
>Obviously some PHB (Dilbert) managers think they justify their existence
by change -- any change.
Now, if you compare IBM managers to PHB, this makes PHB look like a brilliant
manager.
I remember a cartoon from quite some time a go. PHB said to Dilbert: "I think
we need a new database". Uh,
Hi Folks,
When writing to me (Sam Golob), please do not use my attglobal.net
email address. It has disappeared, and it isn't coming back. Instead,
please use sbgo...@cbttape.org to write to me.
I now have the large job of removing this address from the entire
CBT Tape. I'll let yo
Hi:
You can also get excellent CICS/DB2 trainning at Circle.
Regards,
Gene
In a message dated 11/26/2017 1:35:30 PM SA Western Standard Time,
surecha...@gmail.com writes:
Dear Venkat
You can find CICS and Db2 courses at Marist IDCP, Poughkeepsie, NY, U.S.
You may contact Mr. Angelo Cor
Why would you even waste your time with these idiots, Mark ? They have
screwed themselves into the ground.
You can bet your boots the same team of management clowns who brought this
situation about are still in control. So I would pitch them a complete
upgrade to the latest software and hardware,
Welcome to the new Ginny Rometty IBM. She should have been canned years
ago.
Doug Fuerst
718.921.2620 (O)
917.572.7364 (C)
d...@bkassociates.net
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On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Doug Fuerst wrote:
> Welcome to the new Ginny Rometty IBM. She should have been canned years
> ago.
Perhaps caned as well.
>
>
> Doug Fuerst
> 718.921.2620 (O)
> 917.572.7364 (C)
> d...@bkassociates.net
>
>
>
>
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> From: "Mark
I would like to see x3270 support GDDM graphics. It would come in handy viewing
the GDDM graphics displays the IBM Performance Toolkit for z/VM produces now
without having the extra hassle of making a csv file, downloading it to Excel
and making a graph there.
DJ
David Jones | Managing Director
I believe that the 3279G used APA rather than PSS; GDDM supports both.
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Bernd Oppolzer
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To: IBM-MAIN@listser
On 11/27/2017 10:18 AM, Dave Jones wrote:
I would like to see x3270 support GDDM graphics.
Did you ever write to Paul about that?
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Mark:
You may be right, but I had also complained that the special characters even in
the manual names were a real nuisance. Do a download, open it, try to cut and
paste the title and you had to remove all the special characters. Maybe they
ran into this elsewhere and finally said, lets get th
You can't IPL any 24-bit operating system on a machine that doesn't support
S/370 mode; it's not just the addressing, but also the I/O.
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PINION, R
Or was that the 3179G?
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Seymour J Metz
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It must be nice to be able to tell a customer you don't need their business.
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Beverly Caldwell
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 8:28 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re:
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:49 AM, retired mainframer <
retired-mainfra...@q.com> wrote:
> It must be nice to be able to tell a customer you don't need their
> business.
>
>
ROI - It depends on how much the customer is willing to pay you to keep
from paying IBM for the upgrade. If they have a syst
Silly me; I thought that IND$FILE had been replaced by WSA, or some combination
of FTP, SFTP and WSA.
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Elardus Engelbrecht
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THEMIS is also a good choice.
On Monday, November 27, 2017, 11:25:28 AM EST, Gene Hudders
<00883908b3b7-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
Hi:
You can also get excellent CICS/DB2 trainning at Circle.
Regards,
Gene
In a message dated 11/26/2017 1:35:30 PM SA Western Standar
Have to many users that are dieing on V12.0.2
They still have not added the update to Fix Central. :(
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Ed Jaffe
wrote:
> On 11/21/2017 7:36 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
>
>> This problem is not caused by a messed up keyboard map. Incredibly, the
>> DEL key simply does n
On 11/26/2017 9:59 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
Unofficially, there was a report back in 2009 in this forum that OS/390 2.4
IPL'ed under z/VM 5.3 on an IBM z990 machine. There were some restrictions
(512MB memory or less, 1 CP only, and a special z/VM setting).
That might have been from me. We r
On 11/27/2017 5:57 AM, Peter Relson wrote:
I don't know the official answer, but a way to guesstimate a quasi-sane
answer:
Pick whatever machine was made available 3 years after OS/390 2.5 became
available.
Any machine available after that would most likely not have had any
exploitation support
On 11/27/2017 6:00 AM, Greg Price wrote:
On 2017-11-27 7:00 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
What is "GDDM graphics", APA or PSS?
"All Points Addressable" and "Programmable Symbol Sets" are what I
take these acronyms (initializations?) to mean.
PCOMM refers to these as:
1. "Vector Graphics" where
Does anyone have an IEFACTRT exit, that produces a flower box AND processes all
the smf30 extension records for when DDCONS is set to NO, so we just get one
total for all the EXCP's done to each DDNAME? I've tried the ones on the CBT
tape, and none of them seem to do that.
Thank,
Peter
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I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS
LPARs. Management wants to know what is available that will let us have
one display with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are
envisioning a PC based solution, but we have the ability to run
something on zVM. (These z
SYSTEM LOGGER (operlog)
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Of Tony Thigpen
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 1:58 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Consolidate Consoles
I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" fo
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote:
> I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS
> LPARs. Management wants to know what is available that will let us have one
> display with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs. They are envisioning a
> PC based solution
OSAICC?
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ioaq100/ioaq10012.htm
You don’t mention what your configuration is.You also don’t say if you want
5 different consoles running on the same PC? Or output from 5 systems combined
into one? 5 systems in t
We are currently not set up as a sysplex. And, don't really want to.
Tony Thigpen
John McKown wrote on 11/27/2017 03:03 PM:
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote:
I have been asked about "Console Consolidation" for our multiple zOS
LPARs. Management wants to know what is availa
We have BMC's MainView CM, a very nice product that provides console
consolidation, LDAP-controlled operator logons, command auditing, and
automation (it interfaces with the HMC, as well). We run it on RHEL on x86,
though I believe you could run it on any Linux.
First Tennessee Bank
Mainframe
along those same lines we use SuperVision consoles, ICC interface to the
server, and client connections to the consoles, I've consolidated the consoles
down to one NIP (master by name only) for each system and one alternate.
you can use one of their console controllers and your own emulator if y
OSA/ICC will not do what the OP wants.
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Of Jousma, David
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 2:05 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Consolidate Consoles
OSAICC?
https://apac01.saf
How do you *know* what the OP wants?
All he said was " Management wants to know what is available that will let us
have one display with all the console traffic from 5 LPARs." That could mean
almost anything including 5 PCOM emulator windows on the same PC.
_
Then I would assume BMC's MainView CM solution - or the SuperVision solution
could help
http://www.secureagent.com/SV-index.htm
Carmen
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From: "Tony Thigpen"
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 2:08:07 PM
Subject: Re: Consolidate Con
Hi Folks,
To write to me about CBT Tape information, the proper email address is:
sbgo...@cbttape.org.
My attglobal.net email went away, and all emails sent there, are
now lost. But I was able to replace it with:
sbgo...@att.net.
So both the sbgolob.cbttape.org and sbgolob.att.
Correction: OSA/ICC will not do (what my understanding of what the OP posted)
wants.
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Of Jousma, David
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 2:29 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Cons
A single PC with multiple 3270 sessions to an ICC would work, just get a
monitor(s) big enough to see/read all the sessions at the same time.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Tony Thigpen
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017
z/OS is only using about half the subchannels that you defined (to mitigate
path busy conditions). I don't think you have a subchannel issue. Your sync
times are very nice. Your async times are horrific. That is most likely the
problem. Async completion time is influenced by such things as
Brian Westerman wrote:
>Any way, your client can run OS/390 2.5 on a z800 (not
>an 890) which supports OS/390 through z/OS 1.13.
The IBM z800 (and z900 for that matter) never officially supported OS/390
2.5. Do you have any anecdotal reports of that particular combination
running (and any known ca
On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 15:51:22 -0500, Sam Golob wrote:
>
> So both the sbgolob.cbttape.org and sbgolob.att.net addresses are
>now valid.
>
> I'm trying to make it easier to reach out for CBT Tape information,
>and to contact me. Thanks for bearing with me. Dealing with this was a
>pain in th
That is what I initially suggested. Then they said "but can we do it
with one session window open?" Thus my question.
Tony Thigpen
Porowski, Kenneth wrote on 11/27/2017 04:20 PM:
A single PC with multiple 3270 sessions to an ICC would work, just get a
monitor(s) big enough to see/read all the
A bit far-fetched, but:
Create a HLLAPI application that reads a number of minimized ICC
terminal emulators and piles all the console messages into a single
display. Use a different text color for each - just like sysplexed
consoles do.
For command input, have the operator open that particu
That is a thought.
Tony Thigpen
Tom Brennan wrote on 11/27/2017 11:58 PM:
A bit far-fetched, but:
Create a HLLAPI application that reads a number of minimized ICC
terminal emulators and piles all the console messages into a single
display. Use a different text color for each - just like syspl
This all comes down to what the site is willing to do for their long term
viability. If they are happy with the current release and hardware, and are
willing to live with the fact that at some point in time they just won't be
able to fix the hardware, then they obviously are welcome to pay IBM
z13 has 31 bit mode. z14 IPLs in 64 bit mode and cannot run 31 bit
Operating systems, z/OS 2.2 SA-ICKDSF, etc. Requires z/OS 2.3
SA-ICKDSF.
On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 6:51 AM, Mark Wilson wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I have a client who is running OS/390 2.5 and they cannot upgrade their OS
> for many
AFAIK Circle ceased trading and providing training courses in the UK
about 10 years ago. But if their CICS/DB2 training courses are still
available elsewhere, go for it.
BTW I kept in touch with Circle's DB2 lecturer for several years - until
he told me that Circle had closed down and that he was
I realize this is a bit 'out there' but CA's Solve: Operations has something
called OCS.
– Vignesh
Mainframe Infrastructure
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