Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-19 Thread Frank Swarbrick
pondering the future... Frank From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Denis <01664d8ede6c-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 12:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: changing batch job to use SSL Hi Frank, sin

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-19 Thread Gibney, Dave
ssion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Denis > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 11:42 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: changing batch job to use SSL > > Hi Frank, > > since policy agent belongs to Communication Server and used to have some &

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-19 Thread Tony Harminc
On 17 June 2017 at 01:45, Andrew Rowley wrote: > On 17/06/2017 03:05 AM, Tony Harminc wrote: > >> I'm not sure why you seem to think >> this can't be done without client application program involvement. >> > > There are 2 things that need to be validated with the certificate: > - That is is valid

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-19 Thread Denis
-MAIN Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 8:30 pm Subject: Re: changing batch job to use SSL Curious question. Is this something a developer could do in order to test this out, or does it require System level access? Frank From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-19 Thread Frank Swarbrick
une 17, 2017 12:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: changing batch job to use SSL Hi Andrew, have a look at the following sample, where just the jobname and the outbound port specify the need to use tls. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.c

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-17 Thread Timothy Sipples
Andrew, You seem to be asking generic questions about how TLS works on any/every platform. If you're concerned about defending against MITM attacks, then start with that bit of reading. Take a look at how HTTPS prevents such attacks, for example. Then you'll have your answer. As Tony Harminc menti

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-16 Thread Denis
to do, but I have not tested it. Denis. -Original Message- From: Andrew Rowley To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Sat, Jun 17, 2017 07:45 AM Subject: Re: changing batch job to use SSL On 17/06/2017 03:05 AM, Tony Harminc wrote: > It's validated the same way(s) any TLS client app (such as your

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-16 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 17/06/2017 03:05 AM, Tony Harminc wrote: It's validated the same way(s) any TLS client app (such as your desktop browser) validates a server certificate. I'm not sure why you seem to think this can't be done without client application program involvement. There are 2 things that need to be v

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-16 Thread Tony Harminc
On 16 June 2017 at 01:57, Andrew Rowley wrote: > That still doesn't really help me. I'm trying to understand how AT-TLS > guards against MITM for client connections. > > E.g. lets say I had a Cobol job that sent email. I now want to connect to > Gmail which uses TLS. Can I plug in AT-TLS without

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-15 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 16/06/2017 2:31 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: If you'd like an introduction to how this all works, this one is fairly good, although it's slightly dated (written/recorded about 6 years ago): https://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27028558 That still doesn't really help me. I'm trying to

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-15 Thread Anthony Thompson
, 16 June 2017 2:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: changing batch job to use SSL Andrew, The mechanics are pretty basic, at least conceptually. AT-TLS (in Communications Server for z/OS) supports both TLS/SSL server certificate authentication and TLS/SSL client certificate

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-15 Thread Timothy Sipples
Andrew, The mechanics are pretty basic, at least conceptually. AT-TLS (in Communications Server for z/OS) supports both TLS/SSL server certificate authentication and TLS/SSL client certificate authentication. The Policy Agent configuration is what decides which authentication(s) apply. If you'd l

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-15 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 16/06/2017 5:30 AM, Gibney, Dave wrote: I think Tony is correct. If the external server's signing CA is defined using the appropriate Policy Rules for the z/OS Policy Agent and covering the local Cobol client, a secure connection, transparent to the Cobol client should work. How do you know

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-15 Thread Gibney, Dave
M Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Denis > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:44 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: changing batch job to use SSL > > Tony, > > yes I missed the part of a z/os client, sorry for that. > But it

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-15 Thread Denis
. -Original Message- From: Tony Harminc To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Thu, Jun 15, 2017 07:12 PM Subject: Re: changing batch job to use SSL On 15 June 2017 at 12:24, Denis < 01664d8ede6c-dmarc-mailto:requ...@listserv.ua.edu";>requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > This is new for

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?IBMTCP-L Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Denis > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:24 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: changing batch job to use SSL >

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-15 Thread Tony Harminc
On 15 June 2017 at 12:24, Denis < 01664d8ede6c-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > This is new for me, can you point me to docs how to set up at-tls on > windows for a tcpip c client program connecting to z/os? Denis, I don't think Windows is in this picture anywhere; certainly it was no

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-15 Thread Denis
Hi Tony, This is new for me, can you point me to docs how to set up at-tls on windows for a tcpip c client program connecting to z/os? Thanks, Denis. -Original Message- From: Tony Harminc To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Thu, Jun 15, 2017 05:05 PM Subject: Re: changing batch job to use SSL On

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-15 Thread Tony Harminc
On 15 June 2017 at 08:02, Denis < 01664d8ede6c-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > AT-TLS is only for the server side, so you also need something for the > client side, e.g. stunnel (I am mentioning it, because I have worked with > it) or others. This is not right. AT-TLS works fine at t

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-15 Thread Denis
TCPIP client can be turned into a SSL enabled client just with some parameters and there are languages, where it will be a complete rewrite. Hope that helps. Denis. -Original Message- From: Andrew Rowley To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Thu, Jun 15, 2017 1:52 pm Subject: Re: changing batch job to

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-15 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 10/06/2017 08:41 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: Have you looked at AT-TLS yet? It's a feature within Communications Server for z/OS. I don't quite understand how AT-TLS works as a client. If it inserts itself at the TCP level, how does it perform functions like e.g. validating the certificate f

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-12 Thread Timothy Sipples
IPsec is another option I should have also mentioned, also a Communications Server for z/OS feature. Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems, AP/GCG/MEA E-Mail

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-12 Thread Grinsell, Don
-Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Munif Sadek > Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 8:22 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: changing batch job to use SSL > > Dear Listers > I have a pure COBOL b

Re: changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-10 Thread Timothy Sipples
Have you looked at AT-TLS yet? It's a feature within Communications Server for z/OS. Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems, AP/GCG/MEA E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm

changing batch job to use SSL

2017-06-09 Thread Munif Sadek
Dear Listers I have a pure COBOL batch job that uses socket programming (EZASOCKET) to fetch some sensitive data from an external server. I would like to change this IP connection between Mainframe (Client) and External server (Specialized Application Server that does support SSL/TLS) to be sec