Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-09-12 Thread Shaffer, Terri
Just remember, A CBPDO, doesn’t have to be processed as such, Receive it like normal, which will load the REL files, Then just APPLY/ACCEPT the FMID. If you need the other files/doc they are there. We seem to have lost the basics.. Ms Terri E Shaffer Senior Systems Engineer, z/OS Support: ACIW

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-09-01 Thread Art Gutowski
On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 14:01:37 +0100, Keith Gooding wrote: >Why would anyone use CBPDO + SMP/E to install z/OS ? (Not a rhetorical >question). > >Z/OSMF Serverpac installation is good but you may not want to use a Serverpac >to install a single product such as z/secure. Would you take a sledgeha

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-31 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I use, have been using for many years the ServerPac dialog, I like it, it's easy to use and you get 2 very clear docs 'using the dialog' and 'installing your order', and of course the migration guide. I've not use CBPDO, but IIRC when I joined state Gov long ago as a SYSPROG they used this off

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-31 Thread Keith Gooding
Why would anyone use CBPDO + SMP/E to install z/OS ? (Not a rhetorical question). Z/OSMF Serverpac installation is good but you may not want to use a Serverpac to install a single product such as z/secure. Keith > On 31 Aug 2022, at 13:09, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > > thanks for that info A

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-31 Thread Carmen Vitullo
thanks for that info Art, My teammate is not real familiar  with SHOP Z and the options available. she told me trying to order as CBPDO gave her an error, I'll work with her some more to see why again thanks Carmen On 8/31/2022 4:59 AM, Art Gutowski wrote: On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 08:01:53 -050

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-31 Thread Art Gutowski
On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 08:01:53 -0500, Carmen Vitullo wrote: >from what I was told by my teammate, Zsecure version 2.5 requires >z/osmf, I could be wrong, she could be mistaken, but the issues she's >having I think would affect Serverpac, or whatever it's called now, >build JCL and submit JCL. > >my

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-30 Thread rpinion865
I "think" ADCD is used for ISV's. In addition, zPDT uses the ADCD DASD images. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. --- Original Message --- On Tuesday, August 30th, 2022 at 10:07 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > okay, thanks for the clarification > > Carmen > > On 8/30/2022 9:01 AM,

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
okay, thanks for the clarification Carmen On 8/30/2022 9:01 AM, rpinion865 wrote: IBM sends, usually twice a year, DASD images with every conceivable z/OS software component. It's load and go, or should I say load and IPL. It's IBM's idea of a z/OS system. Sent with Proton Mail secure e

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
there are so many pieces, parts that are supported by different teams? as I stated my first case open with IBM on the zosmf issue I was having was related to JES2EDS, it took almost a year for them to figure out my mail server SMTP did not require authentication , so a special jar file was bui

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-30 Thread rpinion865
IBM sends, usually twice a year, DASD images with every conceivable z/OS software component. It's load and go, or should I say load and IPL. It's IBM's idea of a z/OS system. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. --- Original Message --- On Tuesday, August 30th, 2022 at 9:57 AM, Carm

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
the  ADCD approach? I'm not familiar with that terminology, is that the billable service from IBM that build your environment + product and you just restore that environment? , I worked in state government where IBM lead the Y2K project for us and that's how we receive the required OS and produ

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-30 Thread Mike Shaw
It seems to me that z/OSMF is being developed one piece at a time, slowly, instead of starting with a well-thought out and relatively complet design ahead of time. Portions are being developed and added, one at a time, as the need for those portions of the product is discovered. It's like we are al

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
from what I was told by my teammate, Zsecure version 2.5 requires z/osmf, I could be wrong, she could be mistaken, but the issues she's having I think would affect Serverpac, or whatever it's called now, build JCL and submit JCL. my case I opened was initially on the errors we were seeing on t

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-30 Thread Keith Gooding
Just curious - I thought that only Serverpac required the use of z/OSMF and CBPDOs are installed using traditional methods. Are there now products which have to be installed using z/OSMF ? Is it now possible to install a CNPDO using z/OSMF. For the record my experience of z/OSMF for Serverpac i

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-30 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I don't recall ever having to work or needing to use a product to install or maintain a product that required another product as finicky as z/osmf at my 2.4 level downloading a product to support that level, the json file version was not compatible WTH, opening a case with IBM apparently

Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue

2022-08-29 Thread Robert Garrett
zOSMF. A reasonably good idea that has been extremely poorly and sloppily implemented. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 1:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: z/OSMF - again, next issue I'm working