Re: RLS implementation for CDS's in DFHSM

2015-12-10 Thread Glenn Wilcock
Our top recommendation for improving DFSMShsm throughput is to use RLS for the HSM CDSes. In nonRLS mode, each HSM locks access to the CDSes while it performs its queued up I/O requests. While that host has the CDSes locked, all other HSM hosts are queueing up their I/O. When a host gets excl

Re: RLS implementation for CDS's in DFHSM

2015-12-09 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
e- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: 08 December, 2015 17:09 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RLS implementation for CDS's in DFHSM RLS does require CF (coupling facility). Not everyone has CF. Assuming one get inte

Re: RLS implementation for CDS's in DFHSM

2015-12-09 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: 08 December, 2015 14:03 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RLS implementation for CDS's in DFHSM So we just converted to RLS. We are not too worried about

Re: RLS implementation for CDS's in DFHSM

2015-12-08 Thread John Eells
R.S. wrote: Q: What is the performance gain from having Catalog in RLS? Well, that's a performance question, so the answer is "It depends." In my opinion, any catalog contention you have for update activity is likely to evaporate when it's accessed with RLS. The catalog-level lock (SYSIGGV

Re: RLS implementation for CDS's in DFHSM

2015-12-08 Thread J O Skip Robinson
t.net or jo.skip.robin...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: RLS implementation for CDS's in DFHSM RLS does

Re: RLS implementation for CDS's in DFHSM

2015-12-08 Thread J O Skip Robinson
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Re: RLS implementation for CDS's in DFHSM

2015-12-08 Thread R.S.
RLS does require CF (coupling facility). Not everyone has CF. Assuming one get internal CF for free, there's still effort to transform monoplex to parallel sysplex (even single-member one). And the risk of outage when something goes wrong. Q: What is the performance gain from having Catalog in

Re: RLS implementation for CDS's in DFHSM

2015-12-08 Thread Jousma, David
Behalf Of Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 7:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RLS implementation for CDS's in DFHSM Is RLS really so few used or so scary? I remember a quote from a z/OS course where RLS for Catalogs was introduced. The Catalog p

Re: RLS implementation for CDS's in DFHSM

2015-12-08 Thread Lizette Koehler
So we just converted to RLS. We are not too worried about a CF failure as that means other things would be broken. I have seen on SMSVSAM issue that was self-inflicted. So, at this time we have not had to do any type of recovery - it is very stable And the benefits outweighed our concerns. Lizet

Re: RLS implementation for CDS's in DFHSM

2015-12-08 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
Is RLS really so few used or so scary? I remember a quote from a z/OS course where RLS for Catalogs was introduced. The Catalog people asked the VSAM people all kinds of questions because they were afraid of consequences. The VSAM people replied: come on, your catalog is only a KSDS, so why are

Re: RLS implementation for CDS's in DFHSM

2015-12-08 Thread Dan Little
Fingers crossed but we have been using it for quite a while with no issues. Dan On Tuesday, 8 December 2015, Kenneth J. Kripke wrote: > This is an inquiry to see if there are shops that have implemented Record > Level Sharing for their CDS's in DFHSM. > > 1. Concerns are how frequent have