Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-17 Thread Anthony Thompson
Oops, typo... z/OS 1.8 Sorry, Ant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Anthony Thompson Sent: Thursday, 18 January 2018 10:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PDSCLEAN issue My understanding is that the

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-17 Thread Anthony Thompson
A.EDU] On Behalf Of Beesley, Paul Sent: Thursday, 18 January 2018 12:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PDSCLEAN issue No, Allan is right. LNKLST can include PDSE datasets but they seem to be managed differently to those added after IPL. They can't be deleted even after going t

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 16:20:28 -0600, Jeffrey Holst wrote: >> >As the manual DFSMS: Using Datasets notes: >A PDSE member is not actually deleted while in use. Any program connected to >the member when the delete occurs can continue to access the member until the >data set is closed. This is called a

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-17 Thread Jeffrey Holst
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 11:21:56 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:08:49 +, Beesley, Paul wrote: > >>I have been using the PDSCLEAN program from the CBT tape file 693 for a while >> ... >>... >>The report says the PDSE has been cleared, and indeed there are 0 members, >>h

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-17 Thread David Magee
We use PDSEs in LNKLST just fine ... both SMS and non-SMS managed. The restriction, as pointed out by Tom Marchant, is for LPA since it is built prior to PDSE support being available during the IPL process. We do space allocation for our LNKLST PDSE datasets (non-IPL volume resident) at tripl

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-17 Thread Beesley, Paul
17, 2018 1:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PDSCLEAN issue On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:25:40 +, Allan Staller wrote: >The only restriction I am aware of is that the PDSE cannot be in the IPL time >LINKLIST. I think you mean LPA. LNKLST can include PDSE d

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-17 Thread Allan Staller
Oops! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 7:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PDSCLEAN issue On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:25:40 +, Allan Staller wrote: >The o

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:25:40 +, Allan Staller wrote: >The only restriction I am aware of is that the PDSE cannot be in the IPL time >LINKLIST. I think you mean LPA. LNKLST can include PDSE data sets. -- Tom Marchant -- Fo

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-16 Thread Anthony Thompson
E and SIEAMIGE). Ant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2018 1:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PDSCLEAN issue The only restriction I am aware of is that the PD

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-16 Thread Peter Van Dyke
Just to add to John Eells' post, you can also delete all PDS/E members and reinitialize the directory using ISPF option 3.1 (Library Utility) by specifying Option D (Delete member) and * for the PDS/E member name (e.g. 'MY.TEST.PDSE(*)'). Regards, Peter Van Dyke (HCL) On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:21

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:08:49 +, Beesley, Paul wrote: >I have been using the PDSCLEAN program from the CBT tape file 693 for a while >... >... >The report says the PDSE has been cleared, and indeed there are 0 members, >however an ISPF 3.4 display shows that the percentage used hasn’t go

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-16 Thread John Eells
Beesley, Paul wrote: I have been using the PDSCLEAN program from the CBT tape file 693 for a while and think it’s great, but have a quick question. Is there an issue using this on PDSEs in the Linklist? On 2 occasions now I have used it to zero a linklisted PDSE (Compuware’s SLCXLOAD if it’s im

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-16 Thread Beesley, Paul
Ah yes of course, that will be it... Thanks Paul -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 4:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: ** SPAM scored: Med **Re: PDSCLEAN issue The

Re: PDSCLEAN issue

2018-01-16 Thread Allan Staller
The only restriction I am aware of is that the PDSE cannot be in the IPL time LINKLIST. It can be added after IPL. This is due to the fact that SMS is not yet initialized at the time the IPL LINKLIST is buir. HTH -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@L