Re: Easiest way to share incore data between batch jobs

2017-03-24 Thread Victor Gil
I'd like to thank everyone responded to this quest. Very educational! It looks like the team has decided to cache this file locally, i.e. in each and every address space accessing data, so nothing exciting is going to transpire this time around. Ah, well, back to the daily routine... Thanks ag

Re: Easiest way to share incore data between batch jobs

2017-03-24 Thread IronSphere by SecuriTeam Software
Hi Victor. Why should it be a problem state program? the idea is a single load, many reads, isn't it? after IPL, run a STC to load the data and create the name-token pair. later on, all users can access the data. As I wrote in my original response, there are several product that does that (table

Re: Easiest way to share incore data between batch jobs

2017-03-24 Thread Steve Smith
I'll second Lizette's suggestion for RLS. It should do exactly what you want with far less change and trouble. On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Victor Gil wrote: > Thanks Denis, an interesting approach! > > Will have to do some reading as this is my "terra incognita"... > > -Victor- > > -- sa

Re: Easiest way to share incore data between batch jobs

2017-03-23 Thread Victor Gil
Thanks Denis, an interesting approach! Will have to do some reading as this is my "terra incognita"... -Victor- - How about using Unix System Services shared memory and optionally semaphores? If found this, but it uses C. http://www.infodd.com/images/infodd/down

Re: Easiest way to share incore data between batch jobs

2017-03-23 Thread Victor Gil
ITschak, Really like this idea, could you please elaborate a bit - how would a problem-state program load data in common area? It needs to be store-protected to prevent overlays, so that would require the loader to be APF authorization, no? -Victor- --

Re: Easiest way to share incore data between batch jobs

2017-03-23 Thread Denis
. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.bpxb100/mgt.htm Hope that helps. Denis. -Original Message- From: IronSphere by SecuriTeam Software To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Thu, Mar 23, 2017 6:25 pm Subject: Re: Easiest way to share incore data between batch

Re: Easiest way to share incore data between batch jobs

2017-03-23 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
f Of IronSphere by SecuriTeam Software Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 1:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Easiest way to share incore data between batch jobs If your interest is sharing, CICS can store a complete vsam file in dataspace using a standard IO routines (GET, PUT, POINT etc.). It i

Re: Easiest way to share incore data between batch jobs

2017-03-23 Thread IronSphere by SecuriTeam Software
If your interest is sharing, CICS can store a complete vsam file in dataspace using a standard IO routines (GET, PUT, POINT etc.). It is few CICS parameters away and involves no code change. I am not sure that EXCI will save you CPU or elapse. BTW, there are few products that store data in storage

Re: Easiest way to share incore data between batch jobs

2017-03-23 Thread Oren, Yifat
Hi, Are you thinking about something like Hyperbatch? https://goo.gl/xJkWB7 Thanks, Yifat -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Victor Gil Sent: 23 March 2017 17:52 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Easiest way to sha

Re: Easiest way to share incore data between batch jobs

2017-03-23 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
ssion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Feller, Paul Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Easiest way to share incore data between batch jobs Would it be just easier to look into something like BLSR (Batch Local Shared Resources) or some

Re: Easiest way to share incore data between batch jobs

2017-03-23 Thread Lizette Koehler
Have you looked at RLS for VSAM? Data is held in CF structure. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Victor Gil > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:52 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Easiest way to

Re: Easiest way to share incore data between batch jobs

2017-03-23 Thread Feller, Paul
Would it be just easier to look into something like BLSR (Batch Local Shared Resources) or some other type of buffering of the VSAM file to improve access and save on physical I/O? Thanks.. Paul Feller AGT Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion Li

Re: Easiest way to share incore data between batch jobs

2017-03-23 Thread Grinsell, Don
Can't that be done with a dataspace? https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieaa500/ieaa50022.htm -- Donald Grinsell, Systems Programmer Enterprise Technology Services Bureau SITSD/Montana Department of Administration 406.444.2983 (D) "Man is still the most