ne of thinking is not good for
> any of us on IBM-Main.
>
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> Of Steve Smith
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Phoenix won the shootout at Share, so it's good news to me. The enthusiasm
of Ed Jaffe and his team should ensure JES3 is in good hands. (and the
boots!).
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 6:51 AM zMan wrote:
> Indeed. And often doing it quietly—Optim, for example (the former Princeton
> Softech stuff) was
Indeed. And often doing it quietly—Optim, for example (the former Princeton
Softech stuff) was unloaded on UNICOM a few years ago, with zero publicity.
UNICOM owns it lock, stock, and barrel, it seems, but lets IBM keep selling
it (for some of the revenue, I assume). Very weird. This JES3 deal make
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Steve Smith
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Subject: (External):Re: Phoenix Software International Announces IBM(R) JES3
Licensing Agreement
Not being involved with JES3, I'm disinterested, but IBM has been offloading
development of various softw
Not being involved with JES3, I'm disinterested, but IBM has been
offloading development of various software products to other software
companies for some time. I wonder why they didn't just do that with JES3,
and keep the brand & continuity. Regardless, it does sound like a good
thing for Phoeni
https://www.nytimes.com/1983/11/05/business/the-publicity-effect-of-ibm-sting.html
On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 3:15 AM Timothy Sipples wrote:
>
> Ed Jaffe wrote:
> >It's not every day someone acquires a core z/OS component from IBM (has
> >that EVER happened?) so you can be sure we will treat it with
David Jousma wrote:
>Does every JES3 shop that wants to remain have to re-buy (I'm guessing yes)?
>Otherwise how's the money going to be made?
Presumably they'll be charging for maintenance and support.
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On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 17:31:06 +, Jousma, David wrote:
>Does every JES3 shop that wants to remain have to re-buy (I'm guessing yes)?
>Otherwise how's the money going to be made?
Buy? Is a one-time charge an option these days?
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On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 01:24, Ed Jaffe wrote:
> Thanks to everyon
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 01:24, Ed Jaffe wrote:
> Thanks to everyone for all the support. As many of you know, we have
> been working with JES3 for decades, so it's a perfect fit for us.
Wow!
I'm not a JES3 guy, but the two obvious questions that come to mind are:
Is JESXCF used by JES3, and if s
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