Re: OSA-ICC question

2023-07-13 Thread Tom Longfellow
I was trying to get the provenance of the word 'access' in this case. Based upon many questions over the years from auditors and management who do not understand what 'access' means, they assign their own meaning and infer capabilities that 'access' provides them. Many times I have faced 'find

Re: OSA-ICC question

2023-07-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
behalf of John S. Giltner, Jr. Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 7:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OSA-ICC question In a z/OS environment OSA-ICC's can be used two ways. One way is as a z/OS system console. I know you can require a login on a console, but I'm not sure what

Re: OSA-ICC question

2023-07-13 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
In a z/OS environment OSA-ICC's can be used two ways. One way is as a z/OS system console. I know you can require a login on a console, but I'm not sure what you may be able to see or do if you are not logged in. I don't think you can issue commands, you may just be able to see messages roll

Re: OSA-ICC question

2023-07-12 Thread Joe Monk
I think he was asking about the hosting company. They will always have access via the HMC. In addition, since their network will be used to access the OSA-ICC port, they will have access via that method. Joe On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 8:01 AM Tom Longfellow < 03e29b607131-dmarc-requ...@listserv

Re: OSA-ICC question

2023-07-12 Thread Tom Longfellow
I am confused about which 'access' is at question. There is access to the card and access to the lpars using the card. Basically the wires in and out of the physical OSA-ICC card. ANYONE that has connectivity to the Ethernet port on the OSA is 'accessing' the OSA. The 'OSA Specific Utilities'

Re: OSA-ICC question

2023-07-12 Thread Joe Monk
Basically, as long you have access to the IP subnet, you have connectivity to the defined OSA-ICC. Joe On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 10:53 PM kekronbekron < 02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > For our benefit here, could you please share what the conclusion is? > > > - KB > >

Re: OSA-ICC question

2023-07-11 Thread kekronbekron
For our benefit here, could you please share what the conclusion is? - KB --- Original Message --- On Wednesday, July 12th, 2023 at 9:17 AM, Laurence Chiu wrote: > Thanks. I thought as much as Googled for this but this link didn't pop up. > That is pretty conclusive. > > On Wed, Jul

Re: OSA-ICC question

2023-07-11 Thread Laurence Chiu
Thanks. I thought as much as Googled for this but this link didn't pop up. That is pretty conclusive. On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 12:11 PM Joe Monk wrote: > Page 129 > > https://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg245444.pdf > > Joe > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 5:12 PM Laurence Chiu wrote: > > > W

Re: OSA-ICC question

2023-07-11 Thread Joe Monk
Page 129 https://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg245444.pdf Joe On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 5:12 PM Laurence Chiu wrote: > We are having a LPAR being stood up on an outsourcing company's host. It > will be for our use but they will manage it via the HMC's and possibly the > OSA-ICC port. All

OSA-ICC question

2023-07-11 Thread Laurence Chiu
We are having a LPAR being stood up on an outsourcing company's host. It will be for our use but they will manage it via the HMC's and possibly the OSA-ICC port. All regular access to the LPAR will be via 3270 and using our accounts. But a question was asked, what about OSA-ICC access. My underst