Not propaganda?
The meaning of the sentence found at the bottom of Dave B. signature is:
إسرائيل قتلت 40 ألف فلسطيني بريء = Israel killed 40 thousand innocent
Palestinians...
ישראל הרגה 40,000 פלסטינים חפים מפשע
He did not mention the human animal acts of the Hamas who murdered, raped,
cut
lol right.
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On 10/3/24 at 6:37 PM, Tom Brennan wrote:
> I'm pretty sure he would go away if he got zero replies. But it has to
> be zero.
>
> On 10/3/2024 10:53 AM, Jousma, David wrote:
> > He will just come back using another pseudonym
> >
> > Dave Jousma
> >
I'm pretty sure he would go away if he got zero replies. But it has to
be zero.
On 10/3/2024 10:53 AM, Jousma, David wrote:
He will just come back using another pseudonym
Dave Jousma
Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
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f history, when Israel expanded it's
> territory in the 1948 war, they were not the aggressors. Had the others
> had not started the war, then they would not have lost control of the
> land at the end of the war. The 1948 war was purely a religious war
> started by one specific r
Everyone is a racist from the perspective of a racist.
And, for your misrepresentation of history, when Israel expanded it's
territory in the 1948 war, they were not the aggressors. Had the others
had not started the war, then they would not have lost control of the
land at the end of th
lol That’s the only answer you dolts understand. I’ll bet you’re for free
speech too, amirite. As long as it’s speech you agree with. Oh, and how did
removing Mr. Johnson work out? Many of you are racist, some are antisemites,
some are Zionist, I’ll bet many/most are anti Muslim. Retirement mean
He will just come back using another pseudonym
Dave Jousma
Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of
Michael Oujesky
Date: Thursday, October 3, 2024 at 1:19 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Israel
​Í​Perhaps the time
Perhaps the time has come to remove Mr. beagle from the forum.
Michael
At 10:02 PM 10/2/2024, Dave Beagle wrote:
Lol, there is plenty of malice. This list
consist of a bunch of mostly white, mostly
males. Many of whom arent nearly as educated or
intelligent as they want to portray. I can on
.@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Almost half of the people living in Israel are Muslim.
> The real problem is the Palestinians who left as refugees are not
> being allowed to emigrate and assimilate into other countries, like
> almost all refugees in history.
>
> On Wed, Oc
Almost half of the people living in Israel are Muslim.
The real problem is the Palestinians who left as refugees are not
being allowed to emigrate and assimilate into other countries, like
almost all refugees in history.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 10:30 PM Dave Beagle
<0525eaef6620-dmarc-r
uerst
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To IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date 10/2/2024 23:02:12 PM
Subject Re: Israel
Lol, there is plenty of malice. This list consist of a bunch of mostly white,
mostly males. Many of
rc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
It’s far most complex that that. And goes back much further. Go back to at
least 1948.
One of the two envisaged States proclaimed its independence as Israel and in
the 1948 war involving neighbouring Arab States expanded to 77 percent of the
territory of mandate Palestine,
It’s far most complex that that. And goes back much further. Go back to at
least 1948.
One of the two envisaged States proclaimed its independence as Israel and in
the 1948 war involving neighbouring Arab States expanded to 77 percent of the
territory of mandate Palestine, including the larger
Lol, there is plenty of malice. This list consist of a bunch of mostly white,
mostly males. Many of whom aren’t nearly as educated or intelligent as they
want to portray. I can only imagine the types who post here. It’s truly a
despicable place. Deplorables if you will. Let’s not pretend this bo
For everyone
We are a community of hardcore IBM Systems programmers and developers that is
getting smaller.
I detest politics and conflict. And people construing malice where there is
none. If you believe there is malice
On this technical board you need to examine your concepts and belief sys
Thanks, Steve, for the history.
The topic is of great interest to me personally for a variety of
reasons, including that my wife and I have both traveled in the Middle
East and continue to do business there.
I also have many friends/colleagues with specific interest in Israel,
some of whom
Here is a little history for everybody since I used to work in the Middle East
Back in the 70s Saudi Arabia fired all the Palestinians and deported them out
of Saudi Arabia. That’s just old history.
The more current history is that the Egyptians don’t want the Palestinians. So
what’s occurred?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling
(Hmm, with two "l"s in "signalling", at least in the title; two is typically
British, one is American. But the article isn't even consistent, uses both. Now
let's discuss that...)
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tc. We all want world peace and everyone to be safe.
Just do it somewhere else. PLEASE!
Doug Fuerst
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To IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date 10/2/2024 10:48:36 AM
Subject Re: Israel
This isn't the first time this topic has arisen and it probably won't be the
last.
Why not exchange email addresses with all of your friends in Israel and
communicate with them about unrelated topics privately instead of on this
listserv?
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Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2024 7:54 AM
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Subject: Re: Israel
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s should be, concerned with the safety of all our
community members.
The OP was focused on Israel probably because it was in the news most
recently.
Lionel B. Dyck <><
Github: https://github.com/lbdyck
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“Worry more about your character
Not surprsing.
On Wednesday, October 2, 2024 at 11:00:19 a.m. EDT, Steve Beaver
<050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
Because the people on this list that responded are all the systems programmers
that live in Israel
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No one said I coul
Your response is infantile.
On 02.10.2024 16:59, Steve Beaver wrote:
Because the people on this list that responded are all the systems
programmers that live in Israel
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No one said I could type with one thumb
On Oct 2, 2024, at 09:48, willie bunter
<001409bd2
Because the people on this list that responded are all the systems programmers
that live in Israel
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No one said I could type with one thumb
> On Oct 2, 2024, at 09:48, willie bunter
> <001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> Lenn
Lennie,
You are spot on. The person who made this post should have included
everyone whose lives are threatened by attacks. Well said.
On Wednesday, October 2, 2024 at 09:05:59 a.m. EDT, Lennie Bradshaw
wrote:
So why have it directed only at people in Israel?
Why not include
with the safety of all our
community members.
The OP was focused on Israel probably because it was in the news most
recently.
Lionel B. Dyck <><
Github: https://github.com/lbdyck
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'nuff said. Let's drop the subject.
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I agree - I am, as all of us should be, concerned with the safety of all our
community members.
The OP was focused on Israel probably because it was in the news most
recently.
Lionel B. Dyck <><
Github: https://github.com/lbdyck
System Z Enthusiasts
I agree - I am, as all of us should be, concerned with the safety of all our
community members.
The OP was focused on Israel probably because it was in the news most
recently.
Lionel B. Dyck <><
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I agree with Tony - saying "be safe" is not propaganda or p
Exactly. I was going to say that. I?m concerned for all of those.
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of
Lennie Bradshaw
Date: Wednesday, 2 October 2024 at 14:06
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Israel
So why have it directed only at people in Israel?
Why not
So why have it directed only at people in Israel?
Why not include people in Lebanon, Iran, Gaza, Ukraine, Russia and all the
other places where citizens lives are threatened by attack from another country?
I don't think this is relevant to IBM-MAIN discussions.
Lennie
-Original Me
"...Please do not use this board to act as a conduit to spread Israel
propaganda. ..." What an asinine remark! ... Maybe I should've said
bovine instead? Maybe you'd prefer Hezbollah/Hamas/PFLP/ propaganda? SMH
On 2024-10-02 08:37, esmie moo wrote:
Please do NOT weap
ore about your character than your reputation. Character is what you
are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden
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Tony Thigpen
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2024 7:50 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA
e this board
to act as a conduit to spread Israel propaganda.
On Tuesday, October 1, 2024 at 11:32:45 a.m. EDT, Steve Beaver
<050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
For the guys in Israel - please stay safe
Sent from my iPhone
No one said I
Please do NOT weaponise this technical board. Please do not use this board to
act as a conduit to spread Israel propaganda.
On Tuesday, October 1, 2024 at 11:32:45 a.m. EDT, Steve Beaver
<050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
For the guys in Israel - pleas
For the guys in Israel - please stay safe
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Jerome Benting
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 1:55 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Israel
BLAH BLAH BLAH
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
Lionel B. Dyck
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 8:53 P
BLAH BLAH BLAH
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
Lionel B. Dyck
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 8:53 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Israel
This thread was dead until you resurrected it.
Darren is a volunteer and is doing a great job
than your reputation. Character is what you
are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
Jerome Benting
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 1:50 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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: Israel
Yes. I am glad that your brought it up. No talk about the Russian invasion
was posted. There are different rules for different topics.
Darrin should appoint another administrator to manage the board. He has failed
to enforce the rules.
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 03:06:03
t - just because this is a list about mainframes.
P.S. I also fully support people in Israel, I am willing to help them as
I can. But I won't create off-topic noise on IBM-MAIN - it won't help
anyone.
P.P.S. Sometimes I exchange emails with some persons from IBM-MAIN list,
in many case
+1
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On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 8:51 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Israel
You do know that he is a volunteer, don't you? I'm greatful
for whatever time he is able aand will
October 10, 2023 1:05 PM
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Subject: Re: Israel
It is too bad that Darrin did not purge your post from the outset. Darren
please do your job as administrator and stop this thread.
Elspeth
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 12:37:32 p.m. EDT, Steve Beaver
<050e
daily*. 100k places to sleep, meals, clothes, etc. I
was the part of the community which helped and tried to organize it.
However I didn't talk about it on IBM-MAIN. Not because it was something
not important - just because this is a list about mainframes.
P.S. I also fully support people
Character is what you
are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden
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esmie moo
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 12:06 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Israel
It is too bad that Darri
at others think you are.” - - - John Wooden
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
esmie moo
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 12:06 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Israel
It is too bad that Darrin did not purge your post from the outset. Darre
ead to see if Benyamin Disson was ok.
Let's stop this thread unless one of the guys in Israel gets hurt.
Steve
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I started this thread to see if Benyamin Disson was ok.
Let's stop this thread unless one of the guys in Israel gets hurt.
Steve
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, 2023 at 12:46:05 p.m. EDT, Steve Beaver
<050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
Has anyone heard from Benyamin in Israel since the shit storm has started?
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On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:46:05 p.m. EDT, Steve Beaver
<050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
Has anyone heard from Benyamin in Israel since the shit storm has started?
Sent from my iPhone
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The news says there are 300,000 IDF ready to go into the Gaza Strip. That is a
lot of people for 140 square miles
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I was born in 1944. I doubt that Tzaha'l would have accepted me a decade ago.
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Sent: Monday, October 9, 2023 4:54 PM
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I s
fighting style.
I’m curious, is that standard training for hand to hand in the IDF ?
Prayers for Israel as you all work through the aftermath.
Matt Hogstrom
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Perfer et obdura: dolor hic tibi proderit olim.
Be patient and endure: some day, this pai
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Enough please about politics. This is a technical information board. Daren
please pull the plug on this thread.
On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:46:05 p.m. EDT, Steve Beaver
<050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
Enough please about politics. This is a technical information board. Daren
please pull the plug on this thread.
On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:46:05 p.m. EDT, Steve Beaver
<050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
Has anyone heard from Benyamin in Israel sin
over the hill..
>
>
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf
> of Steve Beaver <050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
> Sent: Monday, October 9, 2023 10:02 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Israel
>
> How any of
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Sent: Monday, October 9, 2023 10:02 AM
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How any of you guys are in the IDF reserves?
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On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 09:02:42 -0500 Steve Beaver
<050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
:>How any of you guys are in the IDF reserves?
Not at my age. Many relatives were called up.
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Most of us z.OS sysprogs are too old for reserve duties.
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Steve Beaver
Sent: יום ב 09 אוקטובר 2023 17:03
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Israel
How any of you guys are in the IDF reserves?
Sent from my iPhone
No
I am too old for that. One of my sons has been called up.
On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 17:03, Steve Beaver <
050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> How any of you guys are in the IDF reserves?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> No one said I could type with one thumb
>
> -
How any of you guys are in the IDF reserves?
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Mike Shorkend
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2023 7:39 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Israel
I live near Ben Gurion/Tel Aviv airport. A few missile attacks but nothing
terrible.
The news coming in from the south of Israel
I live near Ben Gurion/Tel Aviv airport. A few missile attacks but nothing
terrible.
The news coming in from the south of Israel is truly horrendous. The truth
is unravelling slowly and paints a very horrific picture.
On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 00:02, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> I'm not, but o
I'm not, but one of my daughters is visiting her fiancee's family in Rishon
LTzion. Both I and my wife have mishpachah in Israel. I don't know any of the
victims, but every death is traumatic.
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Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of
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Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2023 2:38 PM
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Afaik he is a us citizen.
בתאריך יום א׳, 8 באוק׳ 2023 ב-20:58 מאת Dave Beagle <
0525eaef6620-
Prayers for the peace of Jerusalem and all Israel.
On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 3:35 PM Binyamin Dissen
wrote:
> Thanks for the concern. I live in Jerusalem. There were air raid sirens,
> and I
> heard some bombs, but praise G-d I am OK.
>
> On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 11:45:40 -05
Thanks for the concern. I live in Jerusalem. There were air raid sirens, and I
heard some bombs, but praise G-d I am OK.
On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 11:45:40 -0500 Steve Beaver
<050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
:>Has anyone heard from Benyamin in Israel since the shit
stserv.ua.edu>
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> Subject: Re: Israel
>
> Thank you ITschak. You keep your head and your ass down
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> No one said I could type with one thumb
>
> > On Oct 8, 2023, a
Steve Beaver <050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2023 1:20:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Israel
Thank you ITschak. You keep your head and your ass down
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> On Oct 8,
killed.
I've got many emails and messages from friends and partners around the
world, includes muslins, that supports Israel.
ITschak
בתאריך יום א׳, 8 באוק׳ 2023 ב-20:27 מאת Mike Schwab :
> The attack included a concert with International guests.
>
> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 12:21 P
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Thank you ITschak. You keep your head and your ass down
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> On Oct 8, 2023, at 12:03, Itschak Mugzach
> <0305158ad67d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> No, but I afaik he
with one thumb
>
> > On Oct 8, 2023, at 12:03, Itschak Mugzach
> > <0305158ad67d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >
> > No, but I afaik he lives in a safe area in Israel.
> >
> > ITschak
> >
> > בתאריך יום א׳, 8 באוק׳ 2
Thank you ITschak. You keep your head and your ass down
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> On Oct 8, 2023, at 12:03, Itschak Mugzach
> <0305158ad67d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> No, but I afaik he lives in a safe area in Is
No, but I afaik he lives in a safe area in Israel.
ITschak
בתאריך יום א׳, 8 באוק׳ 2023 ב-19:46 מאת Steve Beaver <
050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>:
> Has anyone heard from Benyamin in Israel since the shit storm has started?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> No
Has anyone heard from Benyamin in Israel since the shit storm has started?
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