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Yeah, I've a REXX exec named SAYNR that does the same thing - passes a string to a CLIST that just does a WRITENR with the string. Nice, but it's not like I use it very often - not, indeed, as though it's really even necessary. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* While

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w.dino-software.com > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > > Behalf Of David Spiegel > > Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2025 7:26 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF > > > > Hi Bill, >

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7:26 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF > > Hi Bill, > I also have an Exec which calls my Writenr clist.. My point was counter the > idea that with Rexx, CLISTs are never necessary. > > Regards, > David > > On 2025-01-09 19:18, Bill Hitef

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On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 17:19:06 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > > >It's ANSI. Why does IBM spurn standards‽ > >From Cowlishaw. Also in compiled REXX and, lately, in CMS REXX. Only if you define "lately" to mean "over 30 years ago". Stre

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ָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Schmitt, Michael Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2025 6:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF External Message: Use Caution One reason to use CLIST is that

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behalf of Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2025 6:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF External Message: Use Caution On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 17:42:27 -0500, David Spiegelwrote: >Hi Tony, >CLISTs a

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On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 19:25:50 -0500, David Spiegel wrote: > >I also have an Exec which calls my Writenr clist.. My point was counter >the idea that with Rexx, CLISTs are never necessary. > What does Writenr do if SYSTSPRT is allocated to: o A UNIX file? Does it write the data, but not append an

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-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2025 5:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF Hi Tony, CLISTs also have the WRITENR statement, which Rexx lacks. Regards,. David On 2025-01-09 16:49, Tony

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I wrote a dinky CLIST to issue WRITENR. I call it from REXX as needed. Bill Hitefield > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of David Spiegel > Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2025 5:42 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: I

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On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 17:42:27 -0500, David Spiegelwrote: >Hi Tony, >CLISTs also have the WRITENR statement, which Rexx lacks. > It's ANSI. Why does IBM spurn standards‽ From Cowlishaw. Also in compiled REXX and, lately, in CMS REXX.

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, Michael Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2025 6:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF External Message: Use Caution Value of which variable? In this case the ultimate value is dependent on whether FIRSTLIB has an embedded &NODE3 or a &FXNODE3 variable. You'd nee

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ssage- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2025 4:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF The only reasons that I can think of to use CLIST is if you need one of DATA DATA PROMPT PROC Everything

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IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2025 4:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF What's wrong with using the VALUE() BIF? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ

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Hi Tony, CLISTs also have the WRITENR statement, which Rexx lacks. Regards,. David On 2025-01-09 16:49, Tony Harminc wrote: On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 at 19:51, Lennie Bradshaw wrote: CLIST design is over 50 years old I think. CLISTs as we know them arrived with OS VS/2 Release 3, so the second re

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tony Harminc Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2025 4:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF External Message: Use Caution On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 at 19:51, Lennie Bradshaw wrote: > CLIST design is over 50 years

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2025 5:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF External Message: Use Caution I rewrote a 3719 source code development system CLIST in REXX. It was spaghetti code: 308 GOTOs, routines that return to labels set as variables, etc. One particular CLIST construct was tr

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: Thursday, January 9, 2025 4:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF External Message: Use Caution Back when CLIST was written, CAPS ON was pretty standard for almost everything, apart from SCRIPT docs. Even in the 1980s, writing in mixed case was the sign of rebellion

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&&FXNODE3 or &NODE3. Yikes! How do you do that in REXX? Keeping in mind that all of these variables are set and used in multiple places. I did solve it, of course. But it was one of the tricker CLIST syntax to convert. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

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Back when CLIST was written, CAPS ON was pretty standard for almost everything, apart from SCRIPT docs. Even in the 1980s, writing in mixed case was the sign of rebellion or bravery. I was the rebel, to the surprise of nobody :-) I had to use CLIST for some TEST subcommand stuff, and I remember ba

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On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 at 19:51, Lennie Bradshaw wrote: > CLIST design is over 50 years old I think. > CLISTs as we know them arrived with OS VS/2 Release 3, so the second release of MVS around 1974 or so. Before that, on e.g MVT, SVS, and the first MVS, CLISTs had no control flow statements - they

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On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 16:06:22 +, Schmitt, Michael wrote: > . >CLIST has no syntax for quoted text. It is just text. In this case, CLIST is >passing the string to ISREDIT, and /that's/ where the quoting it, i.e. it is >part of the Edit macro syntax. >... >This lll is why I hate coding in CL

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said than done. CLISTs tend to be spaghetti code. And it doesn't help that REXX gives uninitialized variables their own name as a value. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2025 6:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSE

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edu> Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2025 9:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF External Message: Use Caution That was what, 1972 or so? The model 33 Teletype (and the model 35, too) only did upper case. Did the 2741 do both? On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 8:23 PM Seymour

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gt; עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf > of Lennie Bradshaw > Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2025 7:50 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: R

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, 2025 7:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF External Message: Use Caution CLIST design is over 50 years old I think. Lennie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: 09 January 2025 00:13 To: IBM-MAIN

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<05962a42dc49-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2025 7:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF External Message: Use Caution When terminals and printers did not have lower case. On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 6:51 PM Lennie Bradshaw wrote: >

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t: 09 January 2025 00:13 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 21:59:18 +, Schmitt, Michael wrote: > > >This is CLIST code. By default, CLIST changes all statements to upper case > >before execution. Add CONTROL NOCAP

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CLIST design is over 50 years old I think. Lennie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: 09 January 2025 00:13 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 21:59:18 +, Schmitt, Michael wrote

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On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 21:59:18 +, Schmitt, Michael wrote: >This is CLIST code. By default, CLIST changes all statements to upper case >before execution. Add CONTROL NOCAPS after ISREDIT MACRO. > . Terrible design. To avoid confounding the novice, or even the OP of this thread, the default shou

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That worked - I knew there had to be a simple way to do this. Thank You -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Schmitt, Michael Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2025 3:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF ! CAUTION! EXTERNAL

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Subject: ISREDIT CAPS ON OFF [Some people who received this message don't often get email from 0708bf6ac9be-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu. Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] I am issuing this ISREDIT macro against a PDS member. ISREDIT

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On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 20:05:14 +, Steely.Mark wrote: >I am issuing this ISREDIT macro against a PDS member. >... >After the update is completed, I noticed all the text is in upper case. > >I have tried a lot of things but it always returns upper case characters. >... Was the member ori

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I am issuing this ISREDIT macro against a PDS member. ISREDIT MACRO ISREDIT CAPS = OFF ISREDIT CHA "NAME = " + "," ALL ISREDIT CHA "ACCESSORID = " + "DCPRCSC1,CICS Elevated Assess for Customer Support Center," + 1 ALL ISREDIT LINE_BEFORE .ZFIRST = " " ISREDIT LINE_