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Don't attempt to enter anything in the search bar before the left fra
On Tue, 18 May 2021 16:28:22 +, Chris Hoelscher wrote:
>From my limited interaction - it may be browser-dependent
>I seem to recall IE does not play well - EDGE or CHROME may be required (but I
>am no expert on this)
>
Dear IBM: https://anybrowser.org/campaign/
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Slightly thread-surrecting this topic -
Don&#
Slightly thread-surrecting this topic -
Don't attempt to enter anything in the search bar before the left frame
manifests itself, otherwise your search terms disappear!
I was surprised at the colorful language coming from me after that happened.
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 3:03 PM esst...@juno.com wro
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There's no excuse for not doing this right anymore.
It's not like we're asking IBM to invent something from scratch.
The components are already there for a seamless search experience.
Client-side search with WASM and https://www.meilisearch.com/
First send the w
Yeah, also we all have to suffer HTTPS intercept in enterprises.
For some reason, enterprises don't even want to consider pushing some part of
this problem client-side, with an enterprise-wide deployment of an established
ad-blocker, uBlock Origin.
That cuts waste traffic out by a huge margin, it
On Tue, 4 May 2021 02:46:56 +, kekronbekron wrote:
>
>It is incredibly painful to look at the dumb spinning wheel.
>Adobe-indexed PDFs aren't fast either.
>For a company that produces world class machines (mainframes) & code (z/OS),
>this isn't even a challenge.
>
Motivated by another thread I
There's no excuse for not doing this right anymore.
It's not like we're asking IBM to invent something from scratch.
The components are already there for a seamless search experience.
Client-side search with WASM and https://www.meilisearch.com/
First send the whole Docs' index down to the client,
On Mon, 3 May 2021 02:11:25 -0500, Ron Burg wrote:
>...
>I can't find a page where the option to change version for example z/OS 2.3
>--> 2.4 works, I allways get a message of:
>"We didn't find a matching topic in the product version you requested. Would
>you like to go to the 2.4.0 homepage?
I went to look at a few wait state codes this morning and was surprised
at how long it took to completely retrieve each web page. My guess is
that IBM's solution to too much back-end processing is to add more
back-end processing.
On 5/3/2021 6:42 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
If I were to venture
I expect their test servers were physically close to them and they had a
lot of automation which did a lot of testing (without complaining). Ears
set to disengaged.
Colin
On Mon, 3 May 2021 at 14:42, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> If I were to venture a guess they hand this off to design people (which
If I were to venture a guess they hand this off to design people (which is
good) that are not getting feedback from the target audience (which is bad).
That coupled with the attempt to unify everything with Cloud creates more of a
lukewarm experience for everyone.
Matt Hogstrom
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Agreed. IBM DOCS (or whatever they call it) is not ready for prime time.
If us z/OS folks did what the IBM DOC folks have beem doing, we'ed be out
the door!
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Hi,
Other then the sidebar that can pop out after a while,
I can't find a page where the option to change version for example z/OS 2.3 -->
2.4 works, I allways get a message of:
"We didn't find a matching topic in the product version you requested. Would
you like to go to the 2.4.0 homepage?"
but
I agree about the overhead on a handheld. It takes at least half of the screen.
Cheryl Watson
On May 2, 2021, at 9:33 AM, Paul Gilmartin
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 09:55:53 -0500, Geoff Smith wrote:
> ...
> We are working with the develop
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 09:55:53 -0500, Geoff Smith wrote:
>...
>We are working with the development team to improve performance, but until
>this is fixed, the Adobe Indexed collections are a good substitute. There a
>several PDF collections available for download on our Internet Library, (
Compared to IBMs new doc site Adobe is a work of art!
> On 15 Apr 2021, at 10:57 am, kekronbekron
> <02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
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>
>>
>>> Adobe is phenomenally bloated for just reading PDFs.
>>
>> "just"? Does it do nothing else?
>
>
> Sorry, I could have phras
I'm still struggling to download that file.
Drops right down to 15-25 Kbps every time.
For the IBM Docs' performance team -
In addition to the client-side WASM I mentioned before, this seems useful for
the indexing/search problem:
Easier option:
https://serokell.io/blog/rust-in-production-meili
> > Adobe is phenomenally bloated for just reading PDFs.
>
> "just"? Does it do nothing else?
Sorry, I could have phrased it better.
For someone who just wants to read PDFs, Adobe Reader is like an overengineered
solution.
It does much more than just reading PDFs.
> Alas, Sumatra is OS-bigoted
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 02:30:45 +, kekronbekron wrote:
>Would be great if IBM made the indexing thing work with non-Adobe PDF readers
>such as Sumatra, which is extremely light-weight and open source.
>
MacOS Spotlight does a pretty good job of indexing everything on my system.
I tried using sym
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> On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 17:04:12 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 17:04:12 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>Is there a Linux or OS/2 version?
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From:
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 17:04:12 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>Is there a Linux or OS/2 version?
>
From:
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WARNING
Please note that Adobe no longer supports Acrobat Reader for Linux. The latest
native Lin
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Hi Gil.
To see an index of all the books in the collection, use the
"1._Open_Me_First_zOS_V2R4_Adobe_Indexed_Collection.html" file. Any browser
should work. When you want do a search of the collection, make sure you have
the off
Maybe the IBM documentation developers sit on top of their servers... so
they get sub millisecond performance - without all of the monitoring
etc/analytics which is added in afterwards. I once suggested they should
put their servers on the opposite side of the world, so they get a typical
respon
Hi Gil.
To see an index of all the books in the collection, use the
"1._Open_Me_First_zOS_V2R4_Adobe_Indexed_Collection.html" file. Any browser
should work. When you want do a search of the collection, make sure you have
the official free Adobe Acrobat reader installed (other PDF reader/vi
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 08:49:28 -0400, Peter Relson wrote:
>The comments (criticism) are on target. Keep 'em coming.
>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 09:10:04 +0100
SUBJECT: Re: More documentation problems
FROM: Martin Packer
...
But "breaking the back button" is indeed a web UI no-no.
+1
And it's pai
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 12:24:49 -0500, Geoff Smith wrote:
>Thank you Sue Shumway for your contributions and thank you to all our
>customers for your feedback. I'll be reviewing the IBM Documentation site
>feedback and try to address as much as I can. I will pay particular attention
>to the z/OS p
Actually I did it. OK, not me, but I had power outage. Several ones (we
had strong winds).
What's stupid I also tried connection over my mobile phone acting as
Wifi hub - completely different provider. No effect.
Of course I did not restart the rest of Internet ;-)
However thank you for your he
Disconnect your internet connection, then reconnect. It may select
another route. It may restart from the beginning.
You might try Trace Route. Then you might try TRACETCP. It is a
utility program that does a trace route using a specific port.
On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 3:22 PM Radoslaw Skorupka
To complement: it is still "in progress". Seven hours later. And approx.
24h after I started download.
And something funny: seven hours ago I saw "2 hours left" and now I see
"2 hours left". Big progress!
Transfer rate is changing constantly, but now its rather close to
15kB/s. Yes, all other In
On 2021-04-09, at 11:07:33, Carmen Vitullo wrote:
>
> Thanks Susan, every issue I've ever had with KC, via the IBM site or a local
> server you've been very helpful, I don't know if there's a fix (enhancement)
> for the current tool I would hope those who took over your role would take in
> al
z Hamid pisze:
Just finished downloading it without any problems. Took around 31 mins.
Regards
Parwez Hamid
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The comments (criticism) are on target. Keep 'em coming.
I would mention that this one
>when we 'change version' of product, saying 'whoopsie, this
>page doesn't exist in that version' almost all the time
is a problem that has existed in KC long before "IBM Documentation" that
I hope (finally)
On 10/04/2021 3:24 am, Geoff Smith wrote:
The link ishttps://ibm.biz/Bdf23Y.
Downloaded here in about 8 minutes - a bit over 2MB/s.
I must say I do like the "Open" hyperlink to the left of the title - in
the past I have selected the wrong manual by failing to correctly follow
the horizontal
Tried downloading v2r4 and v2r4 yesterday.
Got ~25 Kbps when my usual download speed is 1-5 Mbps.
Product-neutral documentation would be great.
Although Adobe is everywhere in 'shops', it's so clunkly that I (maybe few more
people) resort to Firefox's PDF viewer.
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Just finished downloading it without any problems. Took around 31 mins.
Regards
Parwez Hamid
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On 4/8/2021 11:49 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote:
Late to the party here, but I have to ask, now that KC is rebranded ...
KC was re-branded??! Where can I find out more about this?
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W dniu 09.04.2021 o 19:24, Geoff Smith pisze:
Thank you Sue Shumway for your contributions and thank you to all our customers for your
feedback. I'll be reviewing the IBM Documentation site feedback and try to address as
much as I can. I will pay particular attention to the z/OS product docum
Thank you Sue Shumway for your contributions and thank you to all our customers
for your feedback. I'll be reviewing the IBM Documentation site feedback and
try to address as much as I can. I will pay particular attention to the z/OS
product documentation that I work on. Thank you for your pat
Best of luck to you in your newest endeavor
Carmen Vitullo
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I'm sorry that you're not having luck contacting the IBM Documentation
team. They might
I'm sorry that you're not having luck contacting the IBM Documentation
team. They might be overwhelmed with communications about the new
launch, so hopefully it's just a matter of time before they respond.
FYI to all, I've moved to a different team in IBM and am no longer
associated with z/OS
Rather than fill up this discussion list with comments about the new IBM
Documentation site, is there an discussion site for making comments about
the new IBM Documentation? I sent some comments (using their "contact us"
facility) over a week ago but heard nothing back.
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 17:1
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 08:44:17 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>> when we 'change version' of product, saying 'whoopsie, this page doesn't
>> exist in that version' almost all the time
>
>Yeah. Pretty sad.
>
+1
It's sad that the inactive links aren't disabled/dimmed. But that would
incur the overhead
nbekron
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Another point - PDF downloads exist but it's not helpful to have an index.html
that is literally just a table of PDF names and links.
What would be perfect is if I can search across
day, 8 April 2021 9:26 PM CDT
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Another point - PDF downloads exist but it's not helpful to have an index.html
that is literally just a table of PDF names and links.
What would be perfect is if I can search across the whole repo of PDFs via a
search in the
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 02:25:39 +, kekronbekron wrote:
>Another point - PDF downloads exist but it's not helpful to have an index.html
>that is literally just a table of PDF names and links.
>What would be perfect is if I can search across the whole repo of PDFs via a
>search in the index.html f
tullo
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> LOL - "Intuitive" - perhaps if you're the person who wrot
currently
no longer viable?
maybe I missed the answer in the thread?
Susan?
Carmen Vitullo
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LOL - "Intuitive" - perhaps if you're the p
iliar with using the scoping tool, so of course
they had to change everything and make us all start over.
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> Some more feedback for the Docs team:
>
> 1. Search is extremely slow. The search scope filter is missing.
> Assuming the web site is served from
search results page. How stupid is
that?
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Some more feedback for the Docs team:
1. Search is extr
Or is that s**k a**
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Yes,
On Sunday firefox said 7 seconds to load a file
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Some more feedback for the Docs team:
1. Sea
Some more feedback for the Docs team:
1. Search is extremely slow. The search scope filter is missing.
Assuming the web site is served from some *nix server, try using components
from https://github.com/BurntSushi/ripgrep for fast search.
2. The index in the left takes ages to load. Try doing cl
What would also be useful is a next/previous button at the top right & bottom
right of each Doc page.
2 places because for pages that are long, one doesn't need to 'go to top'.
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On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 7:38 AM, kekronbekron
<02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@
Works ok for me.
I should say, I do like the generous use of IBM Plex and the look of the site.
Hope they get rid of the feedback banner at the bottom soon.
Or at least make it an easy to use set of buttons in the footer (where language
selection is).
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/cics-ts/5.2?topic
Your issue is not happening here.
Peter
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.HelloAnyone experiencing problems with IBMs new
.HelloAnyone experiencing problems with IBMs new doc site ?.For Example:If I
google CICS PIPELINE SCAN , I am presented with many references to
documentation with "pipeline scan"If any of these references invoke the old
Knowledge Center, I am re-directed to a new IBM doc site..However I am
pres
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