Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-03-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
Bob Bridges Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 4:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance I didn’t add that; that's just what happens where altavista.com redirects to. What I changed, the second time around, was removing "https:\\" fr

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-03-02 Thread Bob Bridges
I didn’t add that; that's just what happens where altavista.com redirects to. What I changed, the second time around, was removing "https:\\" from the URL, since I suspected (apparently correctly) that it's what triggered that safe-link thing. I suppose the suffix is added to help inform someo

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-03-02 Thread Dave Wade
On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 05:43:20 -0500, Bob Bridges wrote: >THAT's how that URL came across?! Maybe it'll survive better if I leave off >the "https": > > search.yahoo.com/?fr=altavista > adding the "fr=altavista" doesn't change the results, what you get is the answer according to Microsoft, or mor

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-03-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance THAT's how that URL came across?! Maybe it'll survive better if I leave off the "https": search.yahoo.com/?fr=altavista --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I'm not a

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-03-01 Thread Bob Bridges
THAT's how that URL came across?! Maybe it'll survive better if I leave off the "https": search.yahoo.com/?fr=altavista --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I'm not a fatalist. But even if I were, what could I do about it? -Emo Philips */ -Original Message-

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-03-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
U] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 11:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance I never got into the habit of using Google. When I want to do a web search, I type "altavista" into my browser (or jus

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-02-28 Thread Bob Bridges
I never got into the habit of using Google. When I want to do a web search, I type "altavista" into my browser (or just "al", usually) and it takes me to https://search.yahoo.com/?fr=altavista. Sure, I'm a dinosaur. But I find things I need, so I see no need to change my habits. --- Bob Bridges

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-02-28 Thread Attila Fogarasi
The IBM Consent Decree (which ran from 1956 until 2001 for its last provisions) probably had a far bigger impact on IBM's business strategy and options ... just harder to analyze. It didn't directly affect either the rise or decline of the mainframe :) https://www.justice.gov/archive/atr/public/pr

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-02-28 Thread Bill Johnson
Google has its own chatbot. Still, chatbots are years away from reliable use. MSFT’s has been shown to be somewhat unreliable.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, February 28, 2023, 5:00 PM, David Crayford wrote: IBM appears to have returned to its strength of conducting top-class

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-02-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Crayford [dcrayf...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 5:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance IBM appears to have returned to its strength of conducting top-class research and development, which was always its

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-02-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 17:11:20 -0500, Steve Thompson wrote: >... > >While I'm at it, suppose that IBM management had been successful >in dumping VM? How would they do cloud? > How would they do PR/SM? >Just wondering -- gil

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-02-28 Thread Pommier, Rex
List On Behalf Of Gene Hudders Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 4:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance I wonder about the accuracy of this article saying that IBM was involved in the 1890 census. From IBM history: IBM, in full Internat

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-02-28 Thread Steve Thompson
What would have been interesting if WANG had not made the financial mistakes it did and the VS series machines had continued. Would IBM have gotten rid of the bottom end of the z/Architecture? Tier 2 zSeries  partners were dump rather quickly. What would have happened had the MP-3000 and equi

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-02-28 Thread Bill Johnson
o experience in economics or industry.'' -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 3:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance CAUTION: This email originated

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-02-28 Thread Gene Hudders
, you're talking about people who have no experience in economics or industry.'' -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 3:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-02-28 Thread David Crayford
IBM appears to have returned to its strength of conducting top-class research and development, which was always its forte. However, as the saying goes, nothing lasts forever. Google's reign as the world's dominant force may be the next to end. It seems that ChatGPT is on track to disrupt Google

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-02-28 Thread Michael Watkins
s. From the lawyer who drafted the case right on up, you're talking about people who have no experience in economics or industry.'' -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 3:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LIS

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-02-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:15:25 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote: >https://spectrum.ieee.org/ibms-fall-from-world-dominance > >Not negative overall, just recognizing that things have changed, for the >most part. > Thanks. Interesting. But it speaks of mainframes, much like tabulating machines, as in the

Re: IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-02-28 Thread Bill Johnson
I find it disingenuous when someone doesn’t mention the antitrust lawsuit filed against IBM in 1969 and dropped in 1982. https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/cs181/projects/corporate-monopolies/government_ibm.html Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, February 28, 2023, 4:15 PM, P

IBM's Fall From World Dominance

2023-02-28 Thread Phil Smith III
https://spectrum.ieee.org/ibms-fall-from-world-dominance Not negative overall, just recognizing that things have changed, for the most part. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email