Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-02-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 14:12:19 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Out in the wider world, "Because I want to view directories on a 3270." is not >as valid reason to tell users that they can't use their native languages for >file names. Maybe we need an RFE for ISPF to support the EBCDIC transform of >U

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-02-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
EDU Subject: Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names W dniu 01.02.2022 o 18:26, Paul Gilmartin pisze: > On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 23:30:59 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >>> 517 $ ls -altr >>> total 32 >>> drwxr-xr-x 4 paulgilm wheel 128 Jan 29 15:20 .. >&g

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-02-02 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 01.02.2022 o 18:26, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 23:30:59 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: 517 $ ls -altr total 32 drwxr-xr-x 4 paulgilm wheel 128 Jan 29 15:20 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 paulgilm wheel 29 Jan 29 15:22 נַפְתָּלִי בֶּנֶט -rw-r--r-- 1 paulgilm wheel 29 Jan 29 15

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-02-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 23:30:59 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >>> >> 517 $ ls -altr >> total 32 >> drwxr-xr-x 4 paulgilm wheel 128 Jan 29 15:20 .. >> -rw-r--r-- 1 paulgilm wheel 29 Jan 29 15:22 נַפְתָּלִי בֶּנֶט >> -rw-r--r-- 1 paulgilm wheel 29 Jan 29 15:24 Владимир Путин >> -rw-r--r--

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-31 Thread Peter Sylvester
Hi, the original problem is caysed by https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FTPSERVER-426 since Z/Os needs the EXTENSION UTF8 in the client, and this triggers sending FEAT before the login. best Peter Sylvester -- F

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-31 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 29.01.2022 o 23:46, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 23:02:48 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: Yes. Kudos to ISPF 3.17. II have created a file containing Cyrillic characters; tagged it as UTF-8 (IBM-1208):

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
A.EDU Subject: Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 00:34:36 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Cut and paste is quite useful in dodging keyboard issues, as are various >character map applications. Whiler my keyboard is configured as US >International, that still d

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 00:34:36 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Cut and paste is quite useful in dodging keyboard issues, as are various >character map applications. Whiler my keyboard is configured as US >International, that still doesn't give me, e.g., Hebrew, so I rely on pasting >Hebrew text fro

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-29 Thread Seymour J Metz
: Saturday, January 29, 2022 4:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names W dniu 28.01.2022 o 17:39, Tom Brennan pisze: > On 1/28/2022 2:45 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >> Maybe it is hard to understand for you, so I'll try to expl

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 23:02:48 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > >> Yes. Kudos to ISPF 3.17. II have created a file containing Cyrillic >> characters; tagged it as >> UTF-8 (IBM-1208): >> ; >> set my X3270

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-29 Thread Peter Sylvester
Hi does enabling the FEAT extension for FTP solve the problem? Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-29 Thread Tom Brennan
LOL - reminds me of coming back from lunch with a few co-workers including one woman first in line for the entrance door. She went up to the door and just stood there looking at it, waiting for one of the guys to open it for her. Cracked me up :) On 1/29/2022 12:36 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: Pu

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-29 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 28.01.2022 o 18:00, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 13:54:38 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: Businesses with local customers and employees want to make things comfortable and convenient for them. Some of those customers and employees may not even know the Roman alphabet. Yes, if

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-29 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 28.01.2022 o 17:39, Tom Brennan pisze: On 1/28/2022 2:45 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: Maybe it is hard to understand for you, so I'll try to explain again: Yes, I use Polish names in Poland. However my name is Radosław - note the Ł character. But my signature is "Radoslaw". Why? For you.

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-29 Thread Bob Bridges
Puts me in mind of something I read years ago, probably in Reader's Digest, an exchange heard at a doorway: "Don't open the door for me because I'm a woman." "I'm not. I'm opening the door for you because I'm a gentleman." --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* It is im

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-28 Thread Tom Brennan
On 1/28/2022 12:05 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 08:39:19 -0800, Tom Brennan wrote: And thanks for that! I still remember maybe 35 years ago I was walking out of work late in the day, and two co-workers were outside speaking Mandarin. When they saw me they immediately switched

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 08:39:19 -0800, Tom Brennan wrote: > >And thanks for that! I still remember maybe 35 years ago I was walking >out of work late in the day, and two co-workers were outside speaking >Mandarin. When they saw me they immediately switched to English, which >surprised me. All I can

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 17:57:13 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Does z/OS not comply with Unicode bidi rules for code page 1208? > >For older code pages, IBM doesn't really have a choice but the use the >original text order; I'd expect the same issue on old PC code pages. > Does 424 count as "old"?

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
du/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin [000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 12:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names On Fri, 28 J

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 13:54:38 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: > >Businesses with local customers and employees want to make things comfortable >and convenient for them. Some of those customers and employees may not even >know the Roman alphabet. Yes, if they have foreign customers then their >corres

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-28 Thread Tom Brennan
On 1/28/2022 2:45 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: Maybe it is hard to understand for you, so I'll try to explain again: Yes, I use Polish names in Poland. However my name is Radosław - note the Ł character. But my signature is "Radoslaw". Why? For you. And thanks for that! I still remember maybe

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
bject: Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names Maybe it is hard to understand for you, so I'll try to explain again: Yes, I use Polish names in Poland. However my name is Radosław - note the Ł character. But my signature is "Radoslaw". Why? For you. For you, and for those who

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-28 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
ur J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Radoslaw Skorupka [r.skoru...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 5:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Directories on ft server with Hebre

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
orupka [r.skoru...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 5:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names W dniu 27.01.2022 o 22:01, Paul Gilmartin pisze: > On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 21:22:02 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >> ... >> Hebrew

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-27 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 27.01.2022 o 22:01, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 21:22:02 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: ... Hebrew is much harder (for computers) than "latin-like" alphabets like Polish, Spanish, German, etc. Harder only for obsolete computers. No, it's harder for users. I did use

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 21:22:02 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >... >Hebrew is much harder (for computers) than "latin-like" alphabets like >Polish, Spanish, German, etc. > Harder only for obsolete computers. An example from the archive I posted lately: 784 $ ls -alR total 16 drwxr-xr-x 5 p

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Radoslaw Skorupka [r.skoru...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 3:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names W dniu 27.01.2022 o 07:08, Gadi Ben-Avi pisze: > Hi, &

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-27 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 27.01.2022 o 07:08, Gadi Ben-Avi pisze: Hi, We have a need to transfer files to an FTP server to a directory who's name contains Hebrew characters. The encoding is UTF-8. How do I configure the FTP client on z/OS to allow this? If I do a directory listing on the level above the directory,

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 06:08:04 +, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: > >We have a need to transfer files to an FTP server to a directory who's name >contains Hebrew characters. The encoding is UTF-8. >How do I configure the FTP client on z/OS to allow this? >If I do a directory listing on the level above the d

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-27 Thread almog100w
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 3:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names SBDATACONN works for transferring data, not for commands. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Roberto Halais Sent: Thursday

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-27 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
SBDATACONN works for transferring data, not for commands. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Roberto Halais Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 3:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names Try using the

Re: Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-27 Thread Roberto Halais
Try using the SBDATACONN translation parameter. On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 2:09 AM Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: > Hi, > We have a need to transfer files to an FTP server to a directory who's > name contains Hebrew characters. The encoding is UTF-8. > How do I configure the FTP client on z/OS to allow this?

Directories on ft server with Hebrew names

2022-01-26 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Hi, We have a need to transfer files to an FTP server to a directory who's name contains Hebrew characters. The encoding is UTF-8. How do I configure the FTP client on z/OS to allow this? If I do a directory listing on the level above the directory, I get all types of weird named, showing that th