Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-17 Thread Pommier, Rex
ay, May 17, 2019 7:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP Rex, I used your jcl and it worked.  I was successful with and without the NORUN parm. A massive thanks.  On Thursday, 16 May 2019, 7:35:43 pm UTC, Pommier, Rex wrote:

Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-17 Thread John Dawes
So, yes, DFDSS is OK dumping more than one physical dataset to a tape. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 11:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACK

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-17 Thread John Dawes
ds, MI 49546 616.653.8429  |  fax: 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 11:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT op

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-17 Thread John Dawes
  MD RSCB2H  |  Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429  |  fax: 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 11:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP **CAUTION EXT

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-17 Thread John Dawes
ssage- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 1:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP This would be correct syntax.  Comma's are optional, dash is not.  By your other post where

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread Pommier, Rex
- OPT(4) ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 1:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP This would b

Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread Pommier, Rex
John Dawes Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 11:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP Rex,I tried both INDDNAME & PHYSINDD as well.  I can confirm that both dsns are on the same volume.Maybe you can try a test to see if you can do

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread Jousma, David
A.EDU Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** John,The - or , are both acceptable.  I use the - all the time and never had a problem. On Thursday, 16 May 2019, 2:

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread Jousma, David
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 11:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails

Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread John Dawes
Discussion List On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 11:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP Rex, No, there is none. As I had mentioned before, if I execute the job to select 1 dsn it works, however if I try with 2 or

Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread Allan Staller
: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP Alan,Could you confirm the following:a) after DSN=datasetname1. is it a period or a comma?b) in the statement Inddd=indd1outdd=outdd1 should there be a space between the indd1 and outdd?b) after the outdd1.

Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread Allan Staller
Yup. 2 datasets backed up in parallel to two separate tapes. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 12:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP Alan

Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread Allan Staller
John Dawes Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 11:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP Rex, No, there is none. As I had mentioned before, if I execute the job to select 1 dsn it works, however if I try with 2 or more dsns the job fails. I

Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread John Dawes
A.EDU Subject: Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP Rex, No, there is none. As I had mentioned before, if I execute the job to select 1 dsn it works, however if I try with 2 or more dsns the job fails.  I suspect that DFDSS doesn't support a phyiscial dataset backup for m

Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread John Dawes
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 10:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP I tried your suggestion but it didn't work: ADR129E (001)-RI01 (01), KEYWORD '      ' IS IMPROP

Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread Pommier, Rex
: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP John, Do you need to change your INDDNAME to PHYSINDD? The 2.2 manual indicates that INDDNAME is used for full or track copying and PHYSINDD is used for datasets. Are both the datasets you're going after on the same volume?

Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread Pommier, Rex
List On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 10:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP I tried your suggestion but it didn't work: ADR129E (001)-RI01 (01), KEYWORD '      ' IS IMPROPER  On Thursday, 16

Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread John Dawes
mmier, Rex wrote: Do you have some kind of hidden hex character in your input stream? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 10:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DA

Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread John Dawes
t On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 10:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP Dave,I checked.  The DUMP statement is part of the INDDNAME.  It looks that it is missing the - because my post came out misaligned.Here

Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread Pommier, Rex
Do you have some kind of hidden hex character in your input stream? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 10:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP I

Re: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread Pommier, Rex
frame Discussion List On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 10:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP Dave,I checked.  The DUMP statement is part of the INDDNAME.  It looks that it is missing the - because my post cam

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread Carmen Vitullo
S QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.adru000/r2298.htm INCLUDE(data.set.one, - data.set.two) Commas are REQUIRED. On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 9:51 AM John Dawes <00ff0e22811f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wr

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread John Dawes
I tried your suggestion but it didn't work: ADR129E (001)-RI01 (01), KEYWORD '      ' IS IMPROPER  On Thursday, 16 May 2019, 3:13:43 pm UTC, Mike Schwab wrote: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.adru000/r2298.htm INCLUDE(data.set.one, -      

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread John Dawes
David,The reason why I am doing a Physical backup of the dsns instead of a Logical backup it is because these dsns have a problem - no NVR.  They reside on a SMS volume but for some reason some of the dsn|(s) are non-SMS.DFDSS does not support a Logical backup of these problem dsns On Thurs

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread John McKown
On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 10:10 AM John Dawes < 00ff0e22811f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > John,The - or , are both acceptable. I use the - all the time and never > had a problem. > Thanks. I misread the "railroad track" diagram for the DUMP command. > On Thursday, 16 May 201

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread Mike Schwab
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.adru000/r2298.htm INCLUDE(data.set.one, - data.set.two) Commas are REQUIRED. On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 9:51 AM John Dawes <00ff0e22811f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > G'Day, > I am encounte

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread John Dawes
John,The - or , are both acceptable.  I use the - all the time and never had a problem. On Thursday, 16 May 2019, 2:59:16 pm UTC, John McKown wrote: It's hard for me to read the reformatted text. But you need a comma between the two DSNs in the INCLUDE list. I don't see any comma. On

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread John Dawes
ursday, May 16, 2019 10:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** Please excuse my post for being misaligned.  I do not know how to c

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread David Spiegel
Hi John, Physical Backups are usually a bad idea when doing backup by dataset. If these are non-VSAM and non-SMS-managed, you can still do it for specific volumes by coding LIDD instead of INDD. The INDD/INDY is used to determine Logical vs. Physical. If coded, it's Physical, otherwise, it's Logi

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread John McKown
It's hard for me to read the reformatted text. But you need a comma between the two DSNs in the INCLUDE list. I don't see any comma. On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 9:51 AM John Dawes < 00ff0e22811f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > G'Day, > I am encountering a problem performing a Physical dat

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread Jousma, David
QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** Please excuse my post for being misaligned.  I do not know how to correct it.  Any ideas? On Thursday, 16 May 2019, 2:51:22 pm UTC, John Dawes

DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread John Dawes
G'Day, I am encountering a problem performing a Physical dataset backup of several dsn which are on a specific volume.  For some reason it doesn't work. I receive the error message ADR129E (001)-RI01 (01), KEYWORD '      ' IS IMPROPER Below is the job output and the JCL.  Can you spot my error? 

Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PHYSICAL DATASET BACKUP

2019-05-16 Thread John Dawes
Please excuse my post for being misaligned.  I do not know how to correct it.  Any ideas? On Thursday, 16 May 2019, 2:51:22 pm UTC, John Dawes <00ff0e22811f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: G'Day, I am encountering a problem performing a Physical dataset backup of several dsn