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general interest. This is cc-ed to the original poster including the
normal IBM-MAIN boiler plate.
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ftware is developed matter? In most
countries, the citizen is required to place nation above employer.
Clark Morris
>
>On 1/26/2022 11:41 AM, Gibney, Dave wrote:
>> If I was a long term bad actor, or perhaps a nation/state, I might consider
>> evaluating open source for useful/po
as to be maintained either in house or by some trusted party
be it a vendor or an open source project. The user has to understand
the supplier's notification and update process and be able to use it
in their environment. There have been both open source fiascos and
vendor related fiascos
er versions of COBOL
introduce a better behaved comment syntax.
That was the original NOTE statement replaced in later versions with
of COBOL using * in column 7 for comment lines. I believe that there
are further developments in the 2002 and 2014 standards that give
other options which
On Tuesday 04/01/2022 at 10:53 am, Kurt J. Quackenbush wrote:
Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management
Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.
Is that why he always has to fight and be in great peril?
Clark Morris
d
>On Monday 29/11/2021 at 12:41 pm, Charles Mills wrote: Problem is long gone,
>but FWIW this was 9 months after the last IPL.
Given the need to apply security fixes that probably apply to
SYS1.NUCLEUS or LPA modules, how is it possible to go 9 months without
an IPL and maintain security?
probably has log4j> Given other things
about the mainframe environment, the log4j vulnerability may not bite.
Clark Morris
snip
Best regards,
René.
On 19 Dec 2021, at 00:54, David Crayford wrote:
I agree with almost everything he says. Python is light years better
than REXX. Of cou
On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 20:40:08 +, Bill Johnson
<0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>https://www.americanbanker.com/news/why-some-banks-still-lean-on-mainframes
>
I can't read beyond the first 2 paragraphs on either Firefox or Edge.
Clark Morris
>
>
&g
banks have transitioned to the
public cloud from a mainframe?
Capital One?
Clark Morris
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On Saturday, December 11, 2021, 3:10 PM, Tom Brennan
wrote:
And that's where we disagree. Banks will do whatever is most
economical
that still meets their needs
Microsoft, etc. to give said government access to an
organization's data without notifying the organization. I think I
read somewhere that the US Patriot act may authorize this and I
believe that this is probably not unique to the Un
?
Clark Morris
Charles
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Subject: Re: What is OVMSKERN?
The only time I've noticed is while the s
I also heard the term noodle stuffer at SHARE.
Clark Morris
On Sunday 31/10/2021 at 12:33 am, Seymour J Metz wrote:
I never met anybody who talked about the 2321 and didn't use the
terms.
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on
behalf of
If Brian's sites only IPL once a year or less frequently, how are fixes to LPA
modules applied? other fixes requiring an IPL?
I was impressed with maintenance on the Tandem system (now HPE non-stop) where
maintenance was just a simple operator procedure.
Clark M
Is the feed to bit.listserv.ibm-main down. I have seen nothing from
it for days now.
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skol...@us.ibm.com (Sri h Kolusu) wrote:
>> I have used
>>
>> //SORTIN DD DSN=&&X,DISP=(OLD,PASS)
>> //SORTOUT DD DSN=&&X
>Clark Morris,
>
>Please don't ever do that with a
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charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) wrote:
I have used
//SORTIN DD DSN=&&X,DISP=(OLD,PASS)
//SORTOUT DD DSN=&&XI would guess that by "fixed file" the OP means "a hard-coded DSN as opposed
>to a system temp DSN."
>
>Can one allocate
s Program Volume 3', is a great reference. Outside of these
>sources, our google searches haven't provided much as far as secondary sources
>besides billable educational offerings. Glenn
The user experience sessions at SHARE, Guide, etc. might be
acceptable.
Clark Morris
>
&
printers.
>
>Having COM in those days sounds like luxury; I'm envious.
On one occasion, I used the fiche to show our operations manager that
HASP cancelled a job and that neither the night shift operator nor had
anything
much console traffic was routed to it. Starting with MVT
we also printed SYSLOG to Fiche once a day.
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>consoles. Was anybody here on a S/370 that used a 3210 or 3215 as an MCS
>console?
This was a 1052 on a 360/65. As I recall we graduated to a 3287 on
our 4341.
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ng inappropriate. Also someone whose talent is improving
systems performance may be needed. I was the type of person who would
not have designed a good system but I could in many cases drastically
improve the performance of an existing systems, preferably in COBOL
although I did a speed up a coupl
OL compile takes significantly more
resources. Since IBM is moving to common compiler backends, has this
become a problem for small shops?
Clark Morris
>
>I have no doubt that the early customers represented vast swaths of
>geographies and industries, but how low did you guys dip to test
n't use qualification as much as I would
have liked because of COBOL's verbose way of handling it.
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>
>/* -from _The Voyage of the Dawn Treader_ by C S Lewis:
>Eustace: In our world a star is a hu
original abend
code? Is that programmer knowledgeable enough to know that a S0C7 is
an application error 99.999 percent of the time (there may be a rare
instance where it isn't).
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>
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the LE abends is for a trapped
S0C7. U4087 may also indicate inability to produce error messages.
This one from what I gathered using a search engine is a little more
obscure.
Clark Morris
>Charles
>
>
>-Original Message-
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OND= I would consign the
designers of it to the same hell as the designers of Little Endian
which I consider to be store scrambled. This latter idiocy means that
there has to be big-endian UTF-16 and little-endian UTF-16.
Clark Morris
>
>All boolean conditional execution steps can be handle
as I remember it) was a joke, right? It was impossibly
>complicated with curved lines and arrows and flowchart symbols all over
>it. It was made to generate a chuckle, not teach actual logic flow.
Were there ever any paper copies of Dr. Robert Rannie's diagram of NIP
processing and if so are th
e 2 non-SNA 3x74s for redundancy in the 1980s.
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to their PL1 equivalent, Assembler
DSECTs, SORT symbols, C Structures, etc. Data types not supported in
a language would have comments (bits in COBOL for example). This
would allow a shop to have a set of common descriptions across
languages. I would have used this when I was working.
Clark
tc. available under z/OS for a
>competitive cash outlay.
>
>The recent "COBOL ... change in behavior ..." thread might provoke a
>feeding frenzy among the airline magazines.
>
If the numeric field was actually PIC S99 in which case the code is
correct else it was PIC 99 as
ment
>issue", which of course was a bad assumption.
Are you sure that as-num is defined as PIC 99 as opposed to S99. The
code you show is valid for PIC S99 but not PIC 99.
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>
>We're now discussing using the NUMCHECK option in development, and I think
>that
char
> pic 99.
> 88 as-num-10 value 10.
>
>Code checking the as-num-10 condition is generating the following code with
>the "current" patch level:
If as-nums is PIC 99 and not PIC S99, the generated code is flat out
wrong.
nd effort.
Clark Morris
>
>> On Mar 7, 2021, at 10:40 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka
>> wrote:
>>
>> ?W dniu 06.03.2021 o 16:50, Laddie Hanus pisze:
>>> LBI is available on DASD the largest block that will fit on 1 track, on the
>>> 3390 thats about 56K. Logical
uld be interested
in all PARMLIB members that can cause a library to be APF authorized
as well as means of updating APF libraries. A competent auditor can
help improve your system. An incompetent one can waste your and
management's time and money and may even leave your system more
vuln
ned with the fact we were running
JES3 on a single computer system. It might be worthwhile to research
this company.
Clark Morris
>
>Carmen Vitullo
>
>
>
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scarra...@unicaja.es (Salva Carrasco) wrote:
>The basic of SMP/E is: make a full backup first.
And at every step in the process that changes any of the data sets or
CSIs except for receiving holddata.
Clark Mor
gt;problem on a parmlib. The JCL in both jobs has DISP=SHR, yet one of the jobs
>has an exclusive ENQ on the library. Here's the scenario:
>
I suspect the flash process does an exclusive ENQ on all data sets
being flashed.
Clark Morris
>Job A is a system backup job. It does a bit o
be the COBOL 85
standard? There were some noticeable changes in syntax and
interpretation between the two standards.
Clark Morris
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>PDS might need to be compressed at some stage in the middle of your processing!
Use of update in place should work if all that is being done is
sequence number stripping since the size of the member does not
change.
Clark Morris
>
>Robert
>
>PS: Please people, strip off all the
then started with COBOL D on a 32K 360/30 with DOS
progressing to COBOL F on either the 64K mod 30 or 128K mod 40. I
think I have used most versions on OS360 through MVS/XA in the time
frame 1977 - 1991 plus VS COBOL II release 1.4 (a major improvement)
fo
temporary DASD data set or a temporary DASD data set is
>scratched." Would not seem to exclude VSAM.
Type 17 is non-VSAM only. I think that type 65 is VSAM related only.
The type 42s are after my active time but they may be of help.
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>
>In my experience, the most frequen
ade the CICS SVC.
>
>We are running z/OS v2.3
>
>Could we use SYSTEM boost to make the process of shutting down the CICS region
>and restarting them?
>Would it be 'legal'?
>
Can you upgrade the CICS SVC wi
ORT-RETURN
for 16 and abend if found.
Clark Morris
>
>Dave,
>
>Generally if you have an error in COBOL , then Language environment SPIE
>takes over and generates the CEEDUMP. So if your shop has IBM-supplied
>default TRAP(ON,SPIE) , you would get CEEDUMP.
>
>> I still
S
mindset. If you want to discuss this offline, my e-mail is
cfmt...@uniserve.com
Clark Morris
>
>Thanks
>
>Joe DeChirico
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a job and based on the account and resources requested the system
should assign the appropriate job class. That was how I designed my
rewrite of the American Natural Resources EXIT 6 (In the ancient
Philips Lighting mods on the CBT tape).
Clark Morris
>
>OP: This has been around a long
IPL with the values in TSOKEYxx, not the defaults and that this
isn't happening.
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I was a heavy user of DYL260 but the ability to use COBOL
record descriptions and DYL280 record descriptions was a game changer.
Just out of curiousity, assuming half track blocking, how much more
efficient is the sort I-O than coding BUFNO=30?
Clark Morris
>Thanks,
>Kolusu
>DFSORT Development
siness
today on other than Microsoft operating systems or Linux on x86 and
ARM hardware.
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>Charles
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>Behalf Of Allan Staller
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xperience with their Knowledge
Center (repository for fixes and the equivalent of PTF cover letters)
seems to understand high availability better than IBM based on
postings here on ibm-main.
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have written code in COBOL to handle bit
switches (snitched from a posting on comp.software.year-2000) and
reference modification is simple.
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>> On Oct 8, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Jeremy Nicoll
>> wrote:
>>
>> ?On Thu, 8 Oct 2020, at 22:17, Jos
ce they are VB at worst you would have to code overrides to handle
minimum LRECL for the program to handle them.
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e program(s) can bee easily
used as templates for future job like this.
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>> On Oct 7, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Sri h Kolusu wrote:
>>
>> ?
>>>
>>>> There is a maximum of 5 min CPU time for job step
>>>> In order to increase the TIOT the all
code and when
the tool becomes more than one off wonder, someone else can pick up
the program and have a fighting chance of understanding what was being
done.
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>Regards
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onday IBM was going to fix it. Tuesday was a different story and we
got the system up by Wednesday morning. My boss and a fellow systems
programmer had to learn about Unit Control Words so we could use our
Comten. All in all an interesting time.
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>
>Thanks and regards,
>Davi
f such a dependency in OS/VS or VM.
MVT ran on a 4341 generated as a 370/158 in my shop while we were
upgrading to MVS.
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>
>A 4331 could not run MVS.
>
>The 4300 series were geared toward the VM/VSE crowd.
>
>Was there a 4361 ?
Yes, it was an follow-on to the 4331.
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>
>In 1987 I worked on an MVS/XA system (SP2.1 -> SP2.2) on a 4381.
>
e virtual address space, like
>DOS/VSE. 3090s were the only processors to support Vector
>instructions, and op codes were re-used in z series.
The 4341 and 4381 could and did run MVS. I was responsible for MVs on
them at my site.
Clark Morris
>
>On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 4:20 PM Tony Thigpe
er who went back into
applications and was actually tracking down why a run time had
increased.
Clark Morris
>
>I am wondering if it makes sense to override the Track Allocation and put it
>in Cylinders.
>
>
>
>We are noticing a little bit of an increase in run time during reorg. I was
&
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edja...@phoenixsoftware.com (Ed Jaffe) wrote:
>On 8/20/2020 1:14 PM, Clark Morris wrote:
>>
>> Any shop using SNA-NJE on JES3 needs it. Since JES2 didn't require it
>> for SNA-NJE, my single instance sh
- a report
manager also helped. The conversion to JES2 forced getting all
production jobs converted to use CA-DISPATCH before the JES2 cutover
so the projects fed each other.
Clark Morris
>Has it been replaced by more-recent z/OS functionality? Or does it
>remain the only way to do certain
h CICS region they were allowed to access. So
far as I know access to TSO does not automatically get you access to
CICS and having access to CICS test does not mean access to CICS
production or even CICS test for a different region.
Clark Morris
>
>I think the IRR profiles can avoid the us
language? If the 2014 COBOL
Standard additional rounding options included the ones your
organization uses, would your organization modify code over time to
take advantage of the software and hardware support for them, assuming
that they would deliver identical results?
Clark Morris
to nearest even. The previous items are
in the 2002 and 2014 standards. This would focus on whether we believe
an installation would use them if they existed and how they could be
sold to the various level of management. Some may be 40 years too
late.
Would anybody be interested?
Clark Morris
MOVE should have been
COPY. There are probably other examples that I can't think of at the
moment.
Clark Morris
>
>On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 12:46 PM Tony Thigpen wrote:
>
>> I agree with Clark.
>>
>> In addition, even the best language can have it's best featu
erfunding, understaffing and general mismanagement.
Looking at some of the comment I have seen in Assembler code including
my own, COBOL code is close to the syntax of those comments.
Clark Morris
>
>BTW, when the language du jour is out of fashion, will they want to rewrite
>the application ag
fixes would be
either changes to the code to match the help and documentation or the
help and documentation to match the code. Technical writers should be
a part of the development teams. A large portion of the coding
community including me is poor at w
Wylbur distributed in source format as opposed to load
modules?
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have customizable
packages that run on non-mainframe (z and other) systems which are at
the OS level native UTF8 or UTF16. I would like to be proven wrong.
Incidentally with the 2002 and 2014 language enhancements COBOL is a
good tool for dealing with SMF records.
Clark Morris
>Believe me, with all t
n was well
before 2010 and was starting to be open sourced before then.
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I don't know enough about the boxes to say. I just was fairly certain
that the hardware instruction set for the s38/AS400 differed from IBM
i.
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d PDSE except PDSE is an add-on (my opinion of the
decision maker who decreed that PDSE or at least a read-only subset
didn't need to be available for SYS1.PARMLIB, SYS1.NUCLEUS and
SYS1.LPALIB is complete contempt)?
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zone (mine is Atlantic Daylight Time). If I was still a working
systems programmer, I would definitely sign up.
https://virtual.share.org/agenda#/?limit=20&scroll=item,oLShgQgAGAsAB9xbo,oLShgQgAGAsAB9xbo,405,120&skip=120&sortByFields[0]=startsAt&sortByOrde
hink rolling in code from tape repeatedly. My Netbook would be far
better suited to it than the H800 as would a 4341. I downloaded a
copy of the FACT manual before making this post to refresh my memory.
Clark Morris
>
>Did the CODASYL SRC comm
llocated in tracks rather than cylinders there could bee more end of
extent checking.
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>Rupert
>
>On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 01:07 Tom Ross wrote:
>
>> >The addition of EXIT PARAGRAPH
>> >and EXIT SECTION have eliminated most of the reasons for use of GO TO
>> >in COBOL. I would be interested in any correcti
ll that disrupt PERFORM optimization? Starting
with VS COBOL II release 4 I have PERFORMed blow-up-paragrraph to make
sure that my program is fully optimized.
Clark Morris
>
>Cheers,
>TomR >> COBOL is the Language of the Future! <<
>
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ku...@us.ibm.com (Kurt Quackenbush) wrote:
>> snip
>Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development
>Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.
Don't Hire Chuck Norris for any systems wo
e
optimization could take place. This is because in COBOL the same
paragraph could be reached by PERFORM x, PERFORM x THRU exit-x1,
PERFORM x THRU exit-x2 and GO TO x. The addition of EXIT PARAGRAPH
and EXIT SECTION have eliminated most of the reasons for use of GO TO
in COBOL. I would be intere
deed to accomplish the same goal the rewrite
would have had to have been substantially different for VS COBOL 2.4
and later.
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e "AT END", INVALID KEY"
or similar statements so there are END-READ and END-WRITE statements.
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>
>Joe
>
>On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 1:40 PM Paul Gilmartin <
>000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 1
BOL II
release 4 (1985 standard) GO TO became a bad idea.
Clark Morris
>
> PERFORM 1050-LOOP THRU 1050-EXIT VARYING JC FROM 1 BY 1 TO 99
>
> 1050-LOOP.
> IF X > 999 GOTO 1050-EXIT END-IF.
> IF FIRST-NAME = "ROBERT" GOTO 1050-EXIT END-IF.
> IF TYPE <
On Friday, May 22, 2020, 02:08:06 PM CDT, Carmen Vitullo
> wrote:
DYL280 became Vision:Results from Broadcom. It was a really powerful
tool. I would like to see a good optimizing compiler for it.
Clark Morris
>
> Indeed, I'm aging myself, but I remember in the mid 70's
ed at
small shops that didn't have the systems staff assumed for MVS so they
had to be concerned with ease of use. Little things like dates were
set using month and day not day of year.
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physical medium), what can the receiver do based on the information?
Is the sender supposed to do something?
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>As I understand the current limitations of UDATASIZ and COMUDSIZ, the VSAM
>file must be in "extended format" for those fields to be meaningfu
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charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) wrote:
>It was yanceled due to yovid-19. SHARE in Yoston, too.
Share is planning an online conference. See www.share.org. I may
attend.
Clark Morris
>
>Charles
>
>
>---
Assuming they are running on z14s minimally?
Is it likely in most environments that both the primary and fallback
computers (disaster recovery) are z14 or more recent?
Clark Morris
>
>And from that, would they actually be able to do more transactions per hour?
>
>Sent from my iPhone
somewhere have a backup of the Developer Works files? They
did make backups, didn't they? Profs backups caught Ollie North.
Clark Morris
>
>We had posted almost 100 links in our Tuning Letter to useful material on
>DeveloperWorks and now none of them work. It will take time, but I
thing with 20 sets of
files that had to match.
Clark Morris
>From 46 years of experience, these problems can be mostly traced to little, if
>any, documentation. Is there correct system documentation? Is there correct
>file/data base documentation? Is there correct operational docu
ld allow a relatively straight
forward conversion of Assembler DSECTS to COBOL. Because it has
language to support all of the IEEE fixed and floating point binary
usages, IEEE and hex floating point could co-exist in the same
program. I wanted USAGE BIT 50 years ago because I was dealing with
bit
far-off dates. Others could/did ignore Y2K because
>their business didn't depend on handling it. For a while.
One of the disquieting things for me at SHARE Y2K sessions was all the
money banks and insurance companies were spending on Y2K.
Clark Morris
>
>Seymour J Metz said
&
on output truncation always works, by what rule does a program
expand the input date? should a fixed window be used? a variable
window based on the current date? some other rule?
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ace but also on
forms, printer lines, punched cards, data entry screens and data entry
key strokes. I know that in many cases I was scrambling for space on
print lines.
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>
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ce is vast.
The fun would come for programs like the now retired payroll programs
I wrote that stored social security numbers as packed decimal.
Clark Morris
>
>2. Alternatively, and in an overlapping period, some brand new digital
>identity scheme.
>
>- - - - - - - - - -
>
BOL via
comp.lang.cobol as well as downloading selected manuals. My specialty
is debugging, modifying and improving existing code. In a crisis
situation these skills would be useful only if I understood the system
that was to be changed.
[Default] On 21 Apr 2020 02:09:14 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
sme...@gmu.edu (Seymour J Metz) wrote:
>Can't you do it incorrectly via an intermediate EQUATE or EVALUATE subcommand?
Incorrectly or indirectly?
Clar
he sort of help is that
which I would provide a fellow SHARE member. For billing concerns
thee only pay project I would consider is in Canada.
Clark Morris
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