Re: Souces for HyperPAV

2022-05-02 Thread Rob Schramm
Actually if it's something web accessible I was wondering if the way back machine had it?? Rob On Mon, May 2, 2022, 17:03 Attila Fogarasi wrote: > Is this sufficient? > https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/linux-on-systems?topic=setup-hyperpav > > On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 9:27 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: >

Re: Serialization of PDSE Questions

2022-05-02 Thread Michael Babcock
I can attest to that. I once updated a shared JES2 PDSE outside of a plex and toasted the thing. Required a restore. On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 3:21 PM Doug wrote: > You can't use PDSE's across SYSPLEX boundaries. Period. Read works most > of the time, but no guarantees. > Write really not at all.

Re: Serialization of PDSE Questions

2022-05-02 Thread Charles Mills
It's bizarre, no? IBM did it for VSE but not z/OS -- isn't that right? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Monday, May 2, 2022 1:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Serialization of PDSE Que

Re: Souces for HyperPAV

2022-05-02 Thread Attila Fogarasi
Is this sufficient? https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/linux-on-systems?topic=setup-hyperpav On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 9:27 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > A wiki editor recently removed the HyperPAVs section from [[Unit Control > Block]] with the explanation "Rm old uncited". Is there a good online > secondar

Re: Serialization of PDSE Questions

2022-05-02 Thread Doug
You can't use PDSE's across SYSPLEX boundaries. Period. Read works most of the time, but no guarantees. Write really not at all. Doug Fuerst d...@bkassociates.net -- Original Message -- From: "Petersen, David" <041cefae9839-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu

Re: Serialization of PDSE Questions

2022-05-02 Thread Gibney, Dave
I don't think MIM changes anything on this issue. If the PDSE is subject to updates from anywhere, you cannot safely share it across Sysplex boundaries. Read-only works, but is not, TBOMK, supported. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Carmen Vitull

Re: Serialization of PDSE Questions

2022-05-02 Thread Carmen Vitullo
We are currently a MIM shop, soon to be converting to a GRS RING, 3 system sysplex, all PDSE sharing is controlled via XCF, in your IGDSMSxx parms you specify PDSESHARING(EXTENDED), you can also supply the optional PDSE_RESTARTAB LE_AS(YES) I checked our MIM parms and I don't see anything spec

Serialization of PDSE Questions

2022-05-02 Thread Petersen, David
HI, We are a MIM Shop that does not use GRS. Our shop has a two LPAR SYSPLEX and a MONOPLEX that shares DASD/Datasets/Master Catalog. We are a little behind installing z/OS2.4 and the necessary push to move to PDSE. Does anyone have experience with using MIM to sequence/serialize PDSE access

Re: MDB (message data block)

2022-05-02 Thread Charles Mills
Meant to reply to this and it slipped my mind. Looking at code of mine -- not thought about since 2018 -- it *looks* like I assume Header, then General, then Control, then Program Objects, then Text Objects, in that order. I'm not saying that is the right way to do things but I can say that the

Re: MDB (message data block)

2022-05-02 Thread Pierre Fichaud
Peter, Thanks. This makes a world of difference. Regards, Pierre. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: MDB (message data block)

2022-05-02 Thread Peter Fatzinger
Pierre, You can probably accept the text objects in the order you find them because as you note, you don't really have other options. However, you probably shouldn't make assumptions regarding the other objects. In SYS1.SAMPLIB you can find an example of processing MDBs. IEAMDBLG reads MDB

Re: SDSF - ISPF questions (wishes?)

2022-05-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 2 May 2022 11:20:59 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Requiring a manual install mighyt redfuce the appeal of the product. > Supply JCL to move the putative script into SYSEXEC, avoiding manual install. Then supply a tool to move that JCL into PROCLIB. Then supply ... Rats! Infinite regres

Re: SDSF - ISPF questions (wishes?)

2022-05-02 Thread David Spiegel
Hmm ... Sounds like IOF's ARChive command. On 2022-05-02 08:07, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: Kirk - I know of no way to add a descriptor record separating each DD when extracting multiple DD's using SDSF to a single target dataset. That does look to be a useful feature - you should submit an RFE for i

Re: SDSF - ISPF questions (wishes?)

2022-05-02 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
Kirk - I know of no way to add a descriptor record separating each DD when extracting multiple DD's using SDSF to a single target dataset. That does look to be a useful feature - you should submit an RFE for it. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/l

Re: SDSF - ISPF questions (wishes?)

2022-05-02 Thread Kirk Wolf
I'm sorry if I was not clear. I was looking for something that used standard SDSF commands and does not require that a client have some REXX code of any kind. It's more about the usage context rather than anything pejorative about REXX. On Sun, May 1, 2022, at 6:30 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

Souces for HyperPAV

2022-05-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
A wiki editor recently removed the HyperPAVs section from [[Unit Control Block]] with the explanation "Rm old uncited". Is there a good online secondary source for PAV and HyperPAV? Thanks. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 --

Re: SDSF - ISPF questions (wishes?)

2022-05-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
Requiring a manual install mighyt redfuce the appeal of the product. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Kirk Wolf [k...@dovetail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2

Re: SDSF - ISPF questions (wishes?)

2022-05-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
It would be a lot more work to install z/OS without using REXX, and REXX would still be there even if you didn't use it. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of

Re: SDSF - ISPF questions (wishes?)

2022-05-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
There isn't; REXX is part of TSO/E. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Gibney, Dave [03b5261cfd78-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Sunday, May 1, 20