Phone tapping was something we did in the 60's in my first job. We lived in
a YMCA hostel with a single payphone and to save 4d (the price of a local
call) you dialled zeroes and nines and tapped the other numbers. My
girlfriend's number in the local village was easy, Harwell 300. On
occasions a li
Tony,
Don’t get me wrong, I was a loyal fan of VSE for years back when I helped
support an ISV product that ran on both the MVS and VSE of the day (way-y-y-y
before z machines and systems, pre-XA in fact). We even supported the somewhat
short-lived SSX/VSE packaging. That was actually a fun p
http://publibfp.dhe.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/iesrre30.pdf
Page 169 gives the VSAMIO parameters...
Joe
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 3:02 PM Mike Beer wrote:
> Hi,
> www.bsitcpip.com might be the contact you are looking for concerning your
> client.
>
> This seems to be a complete (but outdated) collection
Very interesting, all that.
I am living just about 10 km from Boeblingen.
I was a MVS guy until some weeks ago (well, I worked with VSE in the
early 1990s,
but never since). I almost never had the need to deal with VSAM files,
because
all my customers used DB2. Now, all is different. I feel sud
Just for the record, the REXX developer for IBM in 2001 was Ursula
Braun-Krahl. I believe she retired.
Tony Thigpen
Tony Thigpen wrote on 2/28/20 5:51 PM:
There have been a lot of cases where z/OS was behind z/VSE.
First, a CA level backup/restore program for VSAM that was offered to
z/OS bu
What did I hear once? If the prototype is not successful they don't ever do
the permanent solution. And if the prototype is successful it becomes the
permanent solution.
Charles
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Seymour
There have been a lot of cases where z/OS was behind z/VSE.
First, a CA level backup/restore program for VSAM that was offered to
z/OS but they turned it down. Much faster than EXPORT/IMPORT and even
faster than CA-Faver. We have had it since the early 80's.
Second, we support FBA and SCSI di
Because POK doesn't control VSE?
And the VSE users did a lot of stuff to make it work better than
IBM did?
Just guessing.
Steve Thompson
On 2/28/20 5:11 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
Dang it, how is it that the fine VSE developers in Boeblingen can get
permission from Armonk to provide V
Given that, I have a crank phone that I need to get connected to
the TELCO interface box. You have any idea how I do that? I
understand the telco has power so we don't have to put in these
batteries.
Oh, did I punchuate this correctly?
Steve Thompson
On 2/28/20 3:54 PM, Charles Mills wro
Dang it, how is it that the fine VSE developers in Boeblingen can get
permission from Armonk to provide VSAMIO for REXX/VSE but users of z/OS REXX
have to install the open-source RXVSAM package to enable dealing directly with
VSAM files from REXX programs?
<*Grumble*>
Peter
-Original Mess
There's never time to do it right, but there's always time to do it over.
That said, there is a place for rapid prototyping, so long as you don't mistake
prototype for enterprise level production.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
Some do, some don't. I've seen good code from youngsters and awful code from
boomers. That's something to judge on a case by case basis.
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Thank you all for your valuable advice.
I already found many of the answers to my questions, and some books:
REXX for VSE:
https://www-05.ibm.com/e-business/linkweb/publications/servlet/pbi.wss?CTY=US&FNC=SRX&PBL=SC33-6642-09
User's Guide for Barnard FTP:
ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/s390/zos/vse/
What I wanted was to parse all four forms and distinguish among them.
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Dale R. Smith [dale-sm...@columbus.rr.com]
Sent: Fr
Does anybody have a copy of, or a URL for, XPARSE?
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Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 1:
Does it forward the IP address for a TSO LOGON?
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Steve Beaver [st...@stevebeaver.com]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 1:34
My advice here is to design a structure that represents a generic task within
your server and consider the following:
How are you going to start your subtask in a controlled manner, in other words
do you need some sort of commit phases between mother and daughter.
How are you going to stop your
A number of authors have written memoirs describing their interactions with
publishers. Not one of them left me with the impression that the publisher
could be relied appon to DTRT, although the offenders might have been editors
rather than typesetters.
Why do you think Knuth wrote TeX?
--
Sh
That's not a QP doll, that's an m$ doll, unless you typed in a CTE header field
ahead of your text.
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http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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Paul Gilmartin [
Bernd,
a) & b) Contact me off-list. I work with Jeff Barnard and I actually
wrote and maintain all the EZA and other programming APIs for Barnard
Systems TCP product. While I don't personally work with the FTP client,
I can get you directly to Jeff who does.
There are a lot of options with BSI
A text editor edits text in accordance with the user's request; a program that
makes unrequested changes is not a TE, but a vadal. Take wordpad - please.
As to document formatters, I don't object to e.g., changing ''foo'' to "foo" if
the manual clearly and conspicuously says that it does. But I
Keep up with the sarcasm... I have more where this came from :)
Everybody have a great weekend!
On 2/28/2020 12:54 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
OT. This forum is limited to questions related to punctuation and rotary dial
phones.
Charles
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
Hi,
www.bsitcpip.com might be the contact you are looking for concerning your
client.
This seems to be a complete (but outdated) collection for REXX manuals:
http://www.rexxinfo.org/All%20IBM%20Rexx%20manuals/ALLIBM_1.HTM
And there is even a redbook (with Jeffrey Barnard):
http://www.redbooks.ib
OT. This forum is limited to questions related to punctuation and rotary dial
phones.
Charles
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Bernd Oppolzer
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 12:39 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subje
Hello list,
I have some VSE related questions, and I have not been successful in
finding answers using Google etc.
Is this the right forum, or is there another VSE-specific forum?
Some of my questions:
a) At our site, a FTP client from Barnard (?) name BST... is installed.
When retrieving a f
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 14:53:36 -0500, Bob Bridges wrote:
>
>And I remember first discovering by experiment that all a rotary phone does is
>put a counted number of clicks onto the line - and that I could "dial" a
>number equally well by just tapping on the receiver to simulate the clicks.
>...
>
I'm just barely old enough to remember that my childhood telephone number was
like that, something like "Barrymore 7-1234" where "Barrymore" indicated the
first two numbers of the exchange. Long gone, that convention.
And I remember first discovering by experiment that all a rotary phone does i
Maybe my problem is hereditary! My mom in La Mirada, California still
has a working rotary dial phone hanging on the wall. I believe it
doesn't even belong to her - they probably add a few dollars to the bill
for rent. Printed in the center of the dial is the phone number, "LA-1
" which
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 13:12:53 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote:
>Well, how about a rotary dial cell phone?
>https://gizmodo.com/someone-built-a-distraction-free-cellphone-with-a-worki-1841636089
>
There are limitations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=updE5LVe6tg
-- gil
-
Well, how about a rotary dial cell phone?
https://gizmodo.com/someone-built-a-distraction-free-cellphone-with-a-worki-1841636089
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 11:55 AM Tom Brennan
wrote:
>
> It's what younger folks who are not part of the USA "baby boom" call
> older folks like me who do strange thing
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 18:43:11 +, Pew, Curtis G wrote:
>...
>I learned the two-space rule when I started typing on my mom’s Selectric back
>in the 70s, but I’ve gotten out of the habit now that word processors usually
>reformat my input in any case.
>
Vim is an idiot. It prefers:
Dr.
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 08:18:40PM -0600, Mike Schwab wrote:
> https://www.orlandosentinel.com/space/os-bz-boeing-safety-commercial-crew-20200226-bgvthodnjzgmlc36hsxcaopahu-story.html
>
> Boeing didn’t perform full end-to-end test of its astronaut capsule
> before troubled mission, ‘surprising’ NA
And proud of it.
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 9:49 AM Tom Brennan wrote:
>
> Boomer :)
>
> On 2/28/2020 7:40 AM, Mitch Mccluhan wrote:
> > I VOTE FOR 2 SPACES!!! Is that loud enough? It has ALWAYS made reading,
> > easier.
> > Mitch
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Joel C. Ewing
Is it, really? I'm usually a good speller, but I guess I've been doing that
one wrong since I first read "The Hobbit".
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On Feb 28, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Bob Bridges wrote:
>
> Guys, on the matter of French spacing (as with the Oxford comma) neither side
> can legitimately argue that the debate is over. It's just not true that the
> consensus has established "the rule"; you'll find, rather, a significant body
> of
Has anyone moved from NVAS to CL/Supersession 2.1?
Any big gottcha's I need to look for?
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Charles,
Thanks kind sir..the TESTEXIT was pretty good and manual reference is good
also.
I am going to give it a whirl
Regards,
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 1:07 PM Charles Mills wrote:
> The basic starting point is
> https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.ieaa
Guys, on the matter of French spacing (as with the Oxford comma) neither side
can legitimately argue that the debate is over. It's just not true that the
consensus has established "the rule"; you'll find, rather, a significant body
of thought on both sides. I've had to settle back and agree to
Baby-boomer, I presume he means. Born during the '50s, mostly.
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-Origi
The basic starting point is
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.ieaa600/subtcc.htm
.
SYS1.SAMPLIB(TESTEXIT) has some ATTACH and so forth.
Charles
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
I didn't pay much attention to this subthread, back when it first started
up. But it looks as though it's lasting longer than I expected; maybe I
should go back and reread and figure out what's holding up the solution.
You're trying to work out a way to pass and correctly parse an argument that
ma
It's what younger folks who are not part of the USA "baby boom" call
older folks like me who do strange things like using a flip phone with
no touch screen (ok, I finally switched a few years ago, but very late).
On 2/28/2020 9:05 AM, Mitch Mccluhan wrote:
Boomer?
-Original Message
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 19:48:54 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
>How to do this maintaining the quotes? That's needed for allocating the
>data set.
>
>Yet again, simple to do with a regex.
>
>On 2020-02-28 1:41 AM, Dale R. Smith wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 17:30:03 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>>
>>
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 13:34:55 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>If it's to run under TSO then it would be better to add the prefix rather than
>the userid.
>
o IBM strongly recommends prefix==userid.
o However, some admins prefer other conventions, often
to avoid proliferating catalog aliases.
o
Boomers code better anyway.
Doug Fuerst
718.921.2620 (O)
917.572.7364 (C)
d...@bkassociates.net
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To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Sent: 28-Feb-20 12:05:35
Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was:
All,
Does anyone know where I can find a example of multi-tasking in Assembler ?
I want to try my hand at writing a multi-tasking program ...
Regards,
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*IDMWORKS *
Scott Ford
z/OS Dev.
“By elevating a friend or Collegue you elevate yourself, by demeaning a
friend or collegue you deme
Boomer?
-Original Message-
From: Tom Brennan
To: IBM-MAIN
Sent: Fri, Feb 28, 2020 9:49 am
Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as
placeholder]
Boomer :)
On 2/28/2020 7:40 AM, Mitch Mccluhan wrote:
> I VOTE FOR 2 SPACES!!! Is that loud enough? It
Bill,
Exactly
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 10:39 AM Bill Johnson <
0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> The result of the perpetual drive to do everything faster and cheaper.
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Friday, February 28, 2020, 10:24 AM, scott Ford
> wrote:
>
Boomer :)
On 2/28/2020 7:40 AM, Mitch Mccluhan wrote:
I VOTE FOR 2 SPACES!!! Is that loud enough? It has ALWAYS made reading,
easier.
Mitch
-Original Message-
From: Joel C. Ewing
To: IBM-MAIN
Sent: Fri, Feb 28, 2020 9:26 am
Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx
I VOTE FOR 2 SPACES!!! Is that loud enough? It has ALWAYS made reading,
easier.
Mitch
-Original Message-
From: Joel C. Ewing
To: IBM-MAIN
Sent: Fri, Feb 28, 2020 9:26 am
Subject: Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as
placeholder]
This is a sentence endi
The result of the perpetual drive to do everything faster and cheaper.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Friday, February 28, 2020, 10:24 AM, scott Ford wrote:
Mike,
Reminds me of this whole Agile process that’s being used. Incomplete
thinking, not like a lot of old timer Sysprogs, who had
Mike,
Reminds me of this whole Agile process that’s being used. Incomplete
thinking, not like a lot of old timer Sysprogs, who had to think about ,
installation, testing, implementation in production, impact on users and
backup.
Boeing sounds piecemeal ..
Scott
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 6:42 AM R
The nested parentheses are more of a problem than the apostrophes. I would
either do it with a CLIST or track down the PROC package; I doubt that there's
a clean way to do it in straight classic REXX, and evev the regular expression
package of ooRexx laxks some standard refex features that would
This is a sentence ending with one space. This is a sentence ending with
two spaces. My email client is supposedly using a proportional,
variable width font, and the typical smaller width used for a space
character tends to make sentences merge together visually when only a
single space is use
If it's to run under TSO then it would be better to add the prefix rather than
the userid.
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Billy Ashton [bill00ash...@gm
> To be fair, while the PL/X source is retained in comments to the
> assembler, those macros are generated in way that allows them to be used
> in both assemblies and PL/X compiles.
Is it really true that *all* the PL/X source is retained as comments in
the assembler source listing?
The "listing
How to do this maintaining the quotes? That's needed for allocating the data
set.
I would work internally with the absolute DSN - if it is a file without
the user's HLQ, I would add it, if it is a filename specified with the
quotes, I would strip it off in the program. This allows me to contro
How to do this maintaining the quotes? That's needed for allocating the
data set.
Yet again, simple to do with a regex.
On 2020-02-28 1:41 AM, Dale R. Smith wrote:
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 17:30:03 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
The quotes were OK, the space between translate and the left paren wa
Orlando Sentinel says:
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We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support
our full range of digital offerings to the EU market. We continue to identify
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The rule now is 1 space after a period.
Two spaces after a period was the rule on a typewriter, because the fonts
weren't proportional, they were monospace. This led to uneven spacing of
words on paper, so two spaces was the rule.
Nowadays, on a computer, the fonts are proportional. For instance
I shouldn't make such sweeping statements but I maintain that most
software developers I know over 40 years old are not interested in
learning new things.
New languages, git, Docker? Not interested! They want to crack on doing
what they have been doing for the last 20 years with no disruption.
or,
Stop_Condtition = 99
Size = Atay.0 + 1
Array.Size = Stop_Condition
i = 0
Do While (i <> Stop_Condtition)
i = i + 1
InsertCond?
Array.Size = NewValue
Size = Size + 2
Atrray. Size = Stop_Condtition
End
End
ITschak
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 6:01 AM Bob Brid
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