Re: CLDR Irish time zone name

2018-02-14 Thread Martin Buchholz
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 10:24 PM, Mark Davis ☕️ wrote: > I'm pretty annoyed with the TZ group lately; there seems to be little > consideration for compatibility. > > I think, if it comes to it, we may need to be prepared to fork the "input > data" in CLDR. My hope is that they will instead at lea

Re: CLDR Irish time zone name

2018-02-14 Thread Stephen Colebourne
On 13 February 2018 at 23:25, Martin Buchholz wrote: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Stephen Colebourne >> If TZDB insists on continuing with the change, the TZDB compiler in >> OpenJDK will have to be changed. I've managed to make a change (hack) >> to the compiler in Joda-Time, so a solution

Re: CLDR Irish time zone name

2018-02-13 Thread Mark Davis ☕️
I'm pretty annoyed with the TZ group lately; there seems to be little consideration for compatibility. I think, if it comes to it, we may need to be prepared to fork the "input data" in CLDR. My hope is that they will instead at least maintain the current format AND some new-fangled format that go

Re: CLDR Irish time zone name

2018-02-13 Thread Martin Buchholz
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: > > In the short term, I don't think CLDR should change its data, nor do I > think OpenJDK should change. ie. for Ireland, standard=winter and > daylight=summer should continue to be true in both projects. > I agree > If TZDB insists o

Re: CLDR Irish time zone name

2018-02-13 Thread Stephen Colebourne
On 13 February 2018 at 22:20, Yoshito Umaoka wrote: > Hello Sato-san, > > As you know, tz database 2018a flipped Europe/Dublin winter/summer time > rules. There were many messages posted in the tz mailing list, and Paul > Eggert decided to revert the change in tz database 2018c. For future > relea

Re: CLDR Irish time zone name

2018-02-13 Thread Naoto Sato
Hi Umaoka-san, Yes, JDK uses the time zone name translations from CLDR. Currently we simply map names from CLDR's standard/daylight/generic to Java's equivalents. Do you mean in CLDR, you guys discussed whether to flip standard/daylight names based on the offset being positive/negative? Or so

CLDR Irish time zone name

2018-02-13 Thread Yoshito Umaoka
Hello Sato-san, As you know, tz database 2018a flipped Europe/Dublin winter/summer time rules. There were many messages posted in the tz mailing list, and Paul Eggert decided to revert the change in tz database 2018c. For future releases, it looks he want to add a zic build option to swap the