Re: [hibernate-dev] Changelog file in Hibernate ORM

2015-05-28 Thread Hardy Ferentschik
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:01:51PM -0400, Brett Meyer wrote: > +1 from me. Although, on the other hand, do we really need to keep > maintaining that to begin with? I guess I never thought simply having users > go to the JIRA release notes was a big deal. Just my $.02. Same for me on both coun

Re: [hibernate-dev] Release announcements

2015-05-28 Thread Hardy Ferentschik
Hi, On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 09:47:29PM -0500, Steve Ebersole wrote: > At the moment we write release announcements using in.relation.to and then > announce in other mediums by posting that link. We all agree (more or > less) that the wiki editor and rendering on there leaves much to be desired.

Re: [hibernate-dev] HCANN, AnnotationFactory and TCCL

2015-05-28 Thread Hardy Ferentschik
Hi, On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:34:44PM -0500, Steve Ebersole wrote: > The simplest potentially effects other HCANN consumers, so we'd obviously > all need to agree. Anyway, the simplest approach is to use the ClassLoader > for annotation @interface Class rather than the TCCL. I do not see a > pr

Re: [hibernate-dev] HCANN, AnnotationFactory and TCCL

2015-05-28 Thread Sanne Grinovero
On 28 May 2015 at 05:34, Steve Ebersole wrote: > WildFly consuming ORM 5.0 is still hitting one last TCCL issue with HCANN. > It happens in > the > org.hibernate.annotations.common.annotationfactory.AnnotationFactory#create > method trying to build the "annotation proxy class". > > There are a fe

Re: [hibernate-dev] Release announcements

2015-05-28 Thread Sanne Grinovero
On 28 May 2015 at 10:05, Hardy Ferentschik wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 09:47:29PM -0500, Steve Ebersole wrote: >> At the moment we write release announcements using in.relation.to and then >> announce in other mediums by posting that link. We all agree (more or >> less) that the wiki

Re: [hibernate-dev] Release announcements

2015-05-28 Thread Emmanuel Bernard
The banner is indeed driven by RSS so we would lose that. Also push driven news persons would not go regularly to GitHub to see if anything is new. I forgot with who I was discussing that but we do miss a list of the releases and their announcements. If the GitHub thing can be automated, that wo

[hibernate-dev] ORM and database testing

2015-05-28 Thread Steve Ebersole
Now that CR1 is out one of my tasks is to start setting up the database specific jobs on CI. Initially I will just work with MySQL and PostrgeSQL (and maybe HSQLDB). Part of this will be auditing how we do database testing (matrix plugin) and what does/doesn't work there. I definitely like the i

Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM and database testing

2015-05-28 Thread Sanne Grinovero
+1 I particularly like the idea of having H2 start/stop like any other db. Regarding profiles, rather than running the build with a single profile in "maven style", would it not be feasible to have one build iterate on each configuration set? For example: gradle test -PdbProfiles=mysql,h2,mssql

Re: [hibernate-dev] Release announcements

2015-05-28 Thread Steve Ebersole
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Emmanuel Bernard wrote: > The banner is indeed driven by RSS I have not seen any RSS capability from the GitHub Release "system". > so we would lose that. Also push driven news persons would not go > regularly to GitHub to see if anything is new. That depe

Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM and database testing

2015-05-28 Thread Steve Ebersole
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Sanne Grinovero wrote: > +1 > I particularly like the idea of having H2 start/stop like any other db. > > Regarding profiles, rather than running the build with a single > profile in "maven style", would it not be feasible to have one build > iterate on each confi

Re: [hibernate-dev] HCANN, AnnotationFactory and TCCL

2015-05-28 Thread Steve Ebersole
Ok, then everyone seems to be on board with the simple approach. Awesome! FWIW I'd have to imagine this is close to what the VM does for annotations anyway. So that's an extra win in my book. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 5:08 AM, Sanne Grinovero wrote: With that TCCL trick in place it seems it was

Re: [hibernate-dev] HCANN, AnnotationFactory and TCCL

2015-05-28 Thread Sanne Grinovero
What about making it 5.0 to align them all? Search would soon need a 6.0, I'm resisting as much as possible as we had several signs that people mostly ignore our reminders and expect the components to be aligned on the major number. Therefore we expect Search to upgrade to ORM 5 in a minor version

Re: [hibernate-dev] HCANN, AnnotationFactory and TCCL

2015-05-28 Thread Steve Ebersole
Sold! https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HCANN/fixforversion/20151 On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Sanne Grinovero wrote: > What about making it 5.0 to align them all? > > Search would soon need a 6.0, I'm resisting as much as possible as we > had several signs that people mostly ignore ou

Re: [hibernate-dev] Release announcements

2015-05-28 Thread Emmanuel Bernard
> On 28 May 2015, at 16:06, Steve Ebersole wrote: > > The "next gen blog" has been "coming" for years. That's not a dig at anyone, > just a simple point that I'd rather plan based on options I have today rather > than options that I will have at some indeterminate date. Unless you can > tel

Re: [hibernate-dev] HCANN, AnnotationFactory and TCCL

2015-05-28 Thread Steve Ebersole
Wow. There are so many open issues against HCANN... On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Steve Ebersole wrote: > Sold! https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HCANN/fixforversion/20151 > > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Sanne Grinovero > wrote: > >> What about making it 5.0 to align them all? >>

Re: [hibernate-dev] Hibernate ORM - next steps

2015-05-28 Thread Steve Ebersole
Anyone have any input here? Or should I just start scheduling them how I want? On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote: > Now that 5.0 is settling down I wanted to start planning where we go from > here in terms of feature development and schedule/releases. > > Here is my high-lev

Re: [hibernate-dev] Release announcements

2015-05-28 Thread Steve Ebersole
So even though GitHub does not support RSS per-se, it does have a lot of JSON support, including around these releases, including even creating them! On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Emmanuel Bernard wrote: > > On 28 May 2015, at 16:06, Steve Ebersole wrote: > > The "next gen blog" has been "c

Re: [hibernate-dev] Release announcements

2015-05-28 Thread Hardy Ferentschik
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 05:28:15PM +0200, Emmanuel Bernard wrote: > > > On 28 May 2015, at 16:06, Steve Ebersole wrote: > > > > The "next gen blog" has been "coming" for years. That's not a dig at > > anyone, just a simple point that I'd rather plan based on options I have > > today rather th

Re: [hibernate-dev] Changelog file in Hibernate ORM

2015-05-28 Thread Gail Badner
Here is my 2 cents. I find it helpful that the changelog contains all jiras for all releases that feed into a particular version. It makes it clear when later branches were branched off. This is particularly helpful when we are maintaining multiple branches and commits are being backported t

Re: [hibernate-dev] hibernate-osgi JPA bootstrap & classloader

2015-05-28 Thread Brett Meyer
> > > Is that the best way to know when TransactionManagers and DataSources > > come > > > and go too? Or is there a more specific concept for listening to an > > "OSGi > > > service"? > > > > At least for TransactionManagers, yes, the BundleListener is probably the > > best approach. I'm not awa

Re: [hibernate-dev] Changelog file in Hibernate ORM

2015-05-28 Thread Steve Ebersole
I don't like the idea of a 5.0 change log having 4.x issues. It kind of defeats the whole purpose. As a compromise, I can see noting the last previous family release in the changlog. Again using 5.0 as an example, make a note that 5.0 development started after 4.3.6 On May 28, 2015 2:01 PM, "Gai

Re: [hibernate-dev] Changelog file in Hibernate ORM

2015-05-28 Thread Gail Badner
+1 to listing the the version prior to branching. - Original Message - > From: "Steve Ebersole" > To: "Gail Badner" > Cc: "hibernate-dev" , "Hardy Ferentschik" > > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:58:42 PM > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] Changelog file in Hibernate ORM > > I don't like

[hibernate-dev] Release dist bundles

2015-05-28 Thread Steve Ebersole
Appreciate any thoughts... https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-9828 ___ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev