[hibernate-dev] [OGM] Option identity

2013-10-21 Thread Emmanuel Bernard
Gunnar has I had a long discussion and disagreement on the behavior of Option in Hibernate OGM that we could not resolve. We would like your feedback. I did design Option to represent three key concepts: - an option family - for example named query - an option per se - for example the combinatio

Re: [hibernate-dev] [OGM] Option identity

2013-10-21 Thread Gunnar Morling
2013/10/21 Emmanuel Bernard > Gunnar has I had a long discussion and disagreement on the behavior of > Option in Hibernate OGM that we could not resolve. We would like your > feedback. > > I did design Option to represent three key concepts: > > - an option family - for example named query > - an

[hibernate-dev] Use cases for many-to-many collection of proxies?

2013-10-21 Thread Gail Badner
Are there real-world use cases where an initialized many-to-many collection should contain elements that are uninitialized proxies (HibernateProxy), rather than entity instances? Currently, it is possible to configure this behavior using either: We are considering removing this capability i

Re: [hibernate-dev] Use cases for many-to-many collection of proxies?

2013-10-21 Thread Sanne Grinovero
Hi Gail, does this impact as well the "extra-lazy" collections? I definitely had great use cases for them in the past. On 21 October 2013 19:22, Gail Badner wrote: > Are there real-world use cases where an initialized many-to-many collection > should contain elements that are uninitialized proxi