Re: [hibernate-dev] To identify the version of Hibernate ORM at runtime

2015-03-03 Thread Gunnar Morling
Yes, that's true. It returns null when being run for classes obtained from a directory rather than a JAR. I noticed the same btw. when running tests in the IDE for the injection stuff we e.g. use in HV, but it never was a problem for us there. 2015-03-03 16:20 GMT+01:00 Steve Ebersole : > I thi

Re: [hibernate-dev] To identify the version of Hibernate ORM at runtime

2015-03-03 Thread Steve Ebersole
I think we should point out that this method is only available (iiuc) when running with "from a jar". Which means it won't work, for example, in our test suites. I assume we'd just get blanks or nulls there. On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Steve Ebersole wrote: > I just personally never knew a

Re: [hibernate-dev] To identify the version of Hibernate ORM at runtime

2015-03-03 Thread Steve Ebersole
I just personally never knew about this method :) On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Sanne Grinovero wrote: > On 2 March 2015 at 15:49, Gunnar Morling wrote: > > > > > > 2015-03-02 16:22 GMT+01:00 Sanne Grinovero : > >> > >> On 2 March 2015 at 15:05, Steve Ebersole wrote: > >> > Hmm, I had used

Re: [hibernate-dev] To identify the version of Hibernate ORM at runtime

2015-03-02 Thread Sanne Grinovero
On 2 March 2015 at 15:49, Gunnar Morling wrote: > > > 2015-03-02 16:22 GMT+01:00 Sanne Grinovero : >> >> On 2 March 2015 at 15:05, Steve Ebersole wrote: >> > Hmm, I had used to set the set the Specification-* entries too, but it >> > looks >> > like those are no longer there :( >> >> Just out of

Re: [hibernate-dev] To identify the version of Hibernate ORM at runtime

2015-03-02 Thread Gunnar Morling
2015-03-02 16:22 GMT+01:00 Sanne Grinovero : > On 2 March 2015 at 15:05, Steve Ebersole wrote: > > Hmm, I had used to set the set the Specification-* entries too, but it > looks > > like those are no longer there :( > > Just out of curiosity, what would these define? > But not too bad, I think I'

Re: [hibernate-dev] To identify the version of Hibernate ORM at runtime

2015-03-02 Thread Steve Ebersole
It was the "release family". 4.3, or 4.2... On Mar 2, 2015 9:22 AM, "Sanne Grinovero" wrote: > On 2 March 2015 at 15:05, Steve Ebersole wrote: > > Hmm, I had used to set the set the Specification-* entries too, but it > looks > > like those are no longer there :( > > Just out of curiosity, what

Re: [hibernate-dev] To identify the version of Hibernate ORM at runtime

2015-03-02 Thread Sanne Grinovero
On 2 March 2015 at 15:05, Steve Ebersole wrote: > Hmm, I had used to set the set the Specification-* entries too, but it looks > like those are no longer there :( Just out of curiosity, what would these define? But not too bad, I think I'll simply rely on parsing org.hibernate.Version#getVersionS

Re: [hibernate-dev] To identify the version of Hibernate ORM at runtime

2015-03-02 Thread Steve Ebersole
Hmm, I had used to set the set the Specification-* entries too, but it looks like those are no longer there :( On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 7:57 AM, Gunnar Morling wrote: > > Or we could improve on those methods, if not actually adding some easy > to consume resource in the orm jars. > > Doesn't such

Re: [hibernate-dev] To identify the version of Hibernate ORM at runtime

2015-03-02 Thread Gunnar Morling
> Or we could improve on those methods, if not actually adding some easy to consume resource in the orm jars. Doesn't such resource already exist, in the form of META-INF/MANIFEST.MF -> key "Implementation-Version"? Based on that you should be able to raise a meaningful error if the ORM version i

[hibernate-dev] To identify the version of Hibernate ORM at runtime

2015-03-02 Thread Sanne Grinovero
All, it looks like people get easily confused by which version of ORM is compatible with - for example - Hibernate Search. The expected versions are documented plenty, in readme, project sources, documentation and we even remind about the expectations frequently in blog posts. Wondering if it wou